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dinsquared
Shopping Diva, Soapbox Stander
06:58 PM on 09/06/2012
My First Amendment: let me show you it.
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Giverny
Truthiness
07:26 PM on 09/06/2012
Separation of church and state.
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dinsquared
Shopping Diva, Soapbox Stander
08:41 PM on 09/06/2012
Correct.
krist6804
retired, tired and been retreaded 3x
06:13 PM on 09/06/2012
How about prayer in public presidential debates Mr. Ryan, isn’t that a special ceremony where the Creators help could be of value; why just do it in school classrooms?
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Istvan Buda
06:09 PM on 09/06/2012
i'd like the school to pray for Flying spaghetti monster, he is as real as white bearded dude
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Ron Stowell
kameraman
06:07 PM on 09/06/2012
What does Ryan care about school prayer... he is an avowed athiest.
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PELAGIUS2
Justice belongs to all, or it belongs to none
07:10 PM on 09/06/2012
Devout Roman Catholic. Just sayin'. I believe he's just slightly, very slightly to the left of Rick Santorum. A fraction of an inch to the left.
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Giverny
Truthiness
07:27 PM on 09/06/2012
Ayn Rand was a devout atheist whom he hero worshiped.Maybe he should decide one way or another.
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Carla van der Meer
in scientia opportunatis
05:58 PM on 09/06/2012
matters of faith should be kept out of the public realm. The GOP is merely pandering to the bible thumping factions among their ranks, they must know they's never have a real chance at getting prayer back in schools.
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05:34 PM on 09/06/2012
Well, it's an old joke, but there are thousands of prayers in thousands of schools every day all over the country: "Please, God, don't let me get called on" ... "Please, God, don't let us have homework tonight" ... "Oh, please. please, please, God, let me pass this test!" ... "Dear God, please make Brian notice me" ... :)
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stopthemadness69
We The People or We The Corporations?
05:31 PM on 09/06/2012
Since you ARE still allowed to pray in school, on your own, if you so choose, is Ryan saying each state should be allowed to mandate prayer in school? And which prayer? Will he feel the same way when a state decides to mandate islamic prayer in schools? Or let's take UT. Would it be mormon prayer that is required? Again trying to relitigate an issue we solved long ago.
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PELAGIUS2
Justice belongs to all, or it belongs to none
07:13 PM on 09/06/2012
Actually, you'd probably end up with something so generic that it would be about as meaningful as those sacrifices to the image of the emperor they used to mandate in Rome to prove you were a good citizen. And that's what this is about. Civic religion. To prove you're a good faithful member of the community. This isn't about faith. This is about who's in, who's out, and who has the guts to say no.
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haval2
what to say?
05:29 PM on 09/06/2012
This is rich coming from a foul liar who personally needs a little more church time. Keep your religion out of schools. You apparently cannot read, we know you can lie...you do so every time your ugly mouth is open...but separation of church and state needs to be maintained. I surely don't want your convoluted version of religion shoved down my throat now anyone else's. You and Bishop lying sack are so busy pandering to your vacuous minions that you neglect to realize your religion is not to be shoved at anyone else. ...states, federal or whatever we are sick of your attempts. you surely didn't turn out so well. the nun's can't stand you or your policy.
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trekie70
Lifelong bibliophile and political junkie
05:23 PM on 09/06/2012
Conservatives, read this next line VERY CAREFULLY:

"Voluntary, individual student prayers are still legal in public schools."

Case closed. Move along, move along.
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Giverny
Truthiness
07:30 PM on 09/06/2012
If it is an issue of the state as he is stating, then he is speaking about a mandate. That's where the problem arises.
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wrabbitt
Soylent Green IS People.
04:21 PM on 09/06/2012
You want your kids to pray in school? send them to a religious school, let them find out what life is after high school.
04:00 PM on 09/06/2012
In the early 1960s, the Supreme Court struck down government-mandated prayer....

Stick a sock in that 19th century meme of your 'bout prayin' in schools bein' a "state issue" cons.

Pray in you church, pray in your ownn home and above all pray behind closed doors like your leader tells you to but NOT IN PUBLIC. You are offending my sensibilities when you demonstrate your false, personal attention grabbin' phoney piety.
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haval2
what to say?
05:32 PM on 09/06/2012
Lying Sack of _ _ _ _ Ryan didn't benefit from any prayers...blithely opens his foul mouth and lies every chance he gets. Maybe he should look into a littl religions and leave the rest of us out of is twisted version one. As for Bishop Lying Sack, his church puts no premium on honesty either...the two them need to stop pandering to the dolts in their party with this line. Keep your religion to yourselves, in your so called churches and your homes. Spare us the experiment that obviously didn't work for either of you. F&F
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stopthemadness69
We The People or We The Corporations?
05:33 PM on 09/06/2012
Not exactly correct. Prayer is still allowed in public, even in school, it just isn't and shouldn't be mandated. Each american is entitled to worship or not as they see fit, but no american has the right to force their religion on another american.
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notsotupelohoney
Don't just Question Authority, Defy it.
03:56 PM on 09/06/2012
Christians who advocate prayer in public schools have not put enough thought into the issue. For instance, whose prayer?

Buddhists, Hindus, Santerias, Catholics? Muslims??? Which of the 28,000 sects of christianity should be represented?

Should Jews be made to pray in the name of Jesus? Should Baptists be made to pray Hail Marys? Or, will the prayer that will not offend anyone be so devoid of meaning as to be useless so why bother to begin with?

If prayer is that important to your life and you want that passed on to your children, may I suggest that you get on it, and leave the rest of us alone.
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visionrider
I believe in one less god than you do
05:16 PM on 09/06/2012
Pretty much what I was going to write.
Give them what they want and they'll find out they don't like it, but then it will be too late.
sunsetstrip
I took the Sandy Hook Promise
05:36 PM on 09/06/2012
Very well put. Seems the G O P has not climbed out of their breadbox of white bread in the last 50 years......
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notsotupelohoney
Don't just Question Authority, Defy it.
05:50 PM on 09/06/2012
The era of appealing solely to white, christian men in order to win elections is coming to a close, so, for the gop it's climb out or die.
03:53 PM on 09/06/2012
Ryan is apparently fine with public schools offering prayers but against any talk of contraception. Maybe he could combine the two ideas and have the schools offering a prayer that no students wind up pregnant.
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JessWonderin
04:16 PM on 09/06/2012
Maybe sacrifice a virgin . . .?
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wrabbitt
Soylent Green IS People.
04:23 PM on 09/06/2012
If you can find one.......
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Proud Progressive
The Flintstones was not a documentary.
03:48 PM on 09/06/2012
I guess that the Regressives are going to go back and fight every social battle of the past 50 years.
People of color, if these people are elected be prepared for some old signs to brushed off and put back in use.
Women, you can forget the right to vote.
Workers, you can forget the health and safety at work act, paid holidays, pensions, and subsidized medical insurance.
Anyone with a chronic disease or disability, forget the portion of the ACA that made it possible for you to be insured
Students, forget any assistance with your education costs, higher education will once again be the realm of the white and mighty.
And to the poor, be prepared to starve or beg for handouts at your local church.
04:02 PM on 09/06/2012
Today's regressive, backwards looking cons want to repeal every piece of society improving legislation that was passed in the 20th century...
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Sean Quaint
03:46 PM on 09/06/2012
"I'm not looking for teachers to have prayer every day in the classroom, but I do think at special ceremonies – graduation, football games and the like, that calling on our creator is a good idea," he told CNN.

Who's creator, Mitt? Your creator? Sorry, but the United States is NOT a theocracy that supports one religion over any other. This is NOT a states' rights issue. It is a fundamental structural issue of our system, which, like it or not, has a federal component as well as a statewide, or regional component. If parents want their children exposed to a certain form of worship during their education, they are perfectly free to send their kids to a private school of their choice. Every community has one, and most of them are well supported by their internal communities. There's your religious freedom, all well and good and supported by the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights.