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krocklin
Fox News is Watching Our Henhouse
07:47 AM on 10/06/2012
Medicare fraud on smaller scales, that adds up exponentially, is epidemic.
All doctors feel entitled to it and take advantage of the system by performing unnecessary tests and procedures and hastily treating their patients like an assembly line, scheduling them for appointments that aren't needed.
They should be on salary.
Capitalism and Medicine are not a good mix.
04:43 PM on 10/08/2012
They have to do all those test and appointments because of the liability and regulations that medicare put in place for them. You shouldn't speak about what you have no clue about.
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krocklin
Fox News is Watching Our Henhouse
05:11 PM on 10/08/2012
I get Medicare myself and my wife got lots of medical treatment, as did my Dad years ago.
Friends and relatives relate many stories about this, and many medical professionals on this site have agreed with me about this, especially nurses.
I see the bills, examine them carefully and am familiar with what they are supposed to be for.
Medicare does NOT put all kinds of rules and regulations in place for doctors. That is a myth.
To a degree tests are necessary just as a matter of good medicine, not strictly as a protection against liability.
Medical studies themselves have established that too many tests of various kinds are performed unnecessarily, and sometimes with harmful results.
MHT73
words matter
05:05 PM on 10/14/2012
Nice try, but it's just not true.

Spend a little time with an elderly population, and you'll see them getting tested for all sorts of things, willy-nilly.
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strut1702
Fiscally conservative social libertarian.
12:33 AM on 10/06/2012
This program should have been in place when Medicare was created. The savings over that time would be astronomical.
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smp276dp
free us from the craziness
11:55 PM on 10/05/2012
They take an oath to help the sick. But to also steal from the government?
01:38 PM on 10/06/2012
How silly, when will everyone realize they are not stealing from the government, they are stealing from their friends, neighbors, coworker, families, aka taxpayers. The government has no money unless it comes from the taxpayers.
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smp276dp
free us from the craziness
02:00 PM on 10/06/2012
Yeah but most people are not earning doctors salaries. THINK!!
07:23 PM on 10/06/2012
You really do not mean that, come on, tell me you were just joking, and if you are serious do us all a favor and do not vote
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JoanneRM
11:50 PM on 10/05/2012
Until the Affordable Care Act was passed, there was no law that let the Feds go after Medicare and Medicaid Fraud specifically. You would think someone would have passed something like that before, but they didn't. These arrests would not have happened without ObamaCare. Think of that.
12:08 AM on 10/06/2012
Utterly uninformed, Completely untrue. The standard penalty for defrauding Medicare has been triple damages and $10K per event for decades. And jail. Medicare audits a few charts, finds some errors, and multiplies the discrepancies by the total amount of Medicare billings. At that clip, it's pretty easy to trump up $429 million in fraud. And easy to cook up and serve to sycophants and naïfs 32 days before the election.
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lara9209
02:16 AM on 10/06/2012
oh ... i got it ... the fraud didn't really happen ... it's just something that's trumped up to help an election ... glad you're so steeped in the facts
02:17 AM on 10/06/2012
Your right and it made it easier for Republicans (the Governor of Florida) to defraud medicare out of millions with the old laws. Now the laws are stricter and better enforced. There has been more fraud detected and money saved since the new law was passed with the stricter guide lines.
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FlipFlopMitt
Hates Republicans and blue dog Democrats.
10:13 PM on 10/05/2012
Typical Republicans
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Ramon Noches
Retired Air Force Colonel
09:42 PM on 10/05/2012
No profession is immune to greed from preachers to doctors; most have seen it at work, on our streets, in our stores, at our banks above, below, and all around us. The clock is ticking for the next expose, and it won't be a long wait.
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gmikejake
resist evil
09:41 PM on 10/05/2012
OK, regressives, our persistently anti-welfare people, commence the stereotyping. You know, as you so often post, if ONE does it, and you don't like it, they ALL do it, EVERYWHERE, ALL OF THE TIME, too. Let's hear your beliefs, now, about ALL physicians and nurses .... you know, all of those "dependent," "fraudsters," out there. There's your evidence.
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smp276dp
free us from the craziness
11:57 PM on 10/05/2012
That is welfare fraud on steriods.
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lawoff414
Common sense should rule
09:04 PM on 10/05/2012
Chicago, IL !! OMG I cna't believe something illegal happening in "Crook" county. LA, Miami, Brooklyn. All run by dems and all going bankrupt. These crooks have caused the cities and counties to go bankrupt, and now they are after the fed dollars.
02:21 AM on 10/06/2012
Look up the Governor of Florida (a Republican) sometime. He and his company defrauded medicare out of millions and still got elected.
08:07 PM on 10/05/2012
And this is just the public sector of medical field, the private sector...ughhh...either way we get taken by overcharges and there is no excuse for taking advantage of our necessary health care services.
08:46 PM on 10/05/2012
Yeah, I agree. But can you imagine the GOP scaling government down to the point where they can't or don't have the resources to go after anybody??? That's the whole point of them getting rid of govt and having it run by corp's in closed door meetings. THE FOXES WILL BE TOTALLY INCHARGE OF THE HEN HOUSE.
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ele9999
Medicine Man
11:45 AM on 10/06/2012
Ohhhhhhh, let's not let that happen! VOTE OBAMA!
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Lori Norman
12:57 PM on 10/06/2012
yes the "repofflicans" practice neoliberal economics,whose tenets focus on an overall control of a countries economy and government for the sole purpose of making money for the 1%. See
http://www.multinationalmonitor.org/hyper/issues/1994/08/mm0894_12.html
07:55 PM on 10/05/2012
Last year Medicare recovered a whopping....$4Bn. A record breaking year. That's using the RACS which keep 12% of what they recoup. If they recover $50 million from this stunt it will be a miracle. What do you think the investigation cost?

There is not $70BN in recoverable fraud and waste, and the cuts will be applied indiscrimanetly to all providers, good and bad. Obama knows this. The $761BN cuts will slice deeply into muscle and bone here and Medicare recipients will wind up bleeding too.

I figure it's a cynical plot, if you can't talk the beast into going on a diet just starve it out.
07:17 PM on 10/05/2012
I want to be the first to congratulate Holder on this one. He deserves recognition for something other than derelection of duty on the Black Panther voter intimidation and Fast and Furious. Everyone have a great weekend.
06:59 PM on 10/05/2012
This is why medicare and medicaid are in trouble. Crooks in the medical profession. Hell they can even be elected Gov. in a southern state. At least our current administration is going after their butts.
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redzinger8
07:12 PM on 10/05/2012
Yeah he's go another scam going on now. If he gets his way the laws will be changed to benefit his current business.
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2rocks
11:35 PM on 10/05/2012
I have been defending poor folk for weeks because they have been at the end of the finger pointing. It is refreshing to see someone else for a change-
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edwinsmith
Retired
06:30 PM on 10/05/2012
I am a RN and was asked by a supplier to write notes for patients reveiving IV medications since they supplied the medication, etc. I was reluctant and asked further, I was told to just write anything and sign my name at the bottom, they would put the patients name in the top portion and the identification numbers. Yeah, right, I got on the telephone real quick and called the division of consumer affairs, (this was in the state of Florida), a few more phone calls and I just watched and waited. Sure enough, there it was in the papers that the company was taken on the carpet, everyone lost their license there. people were sent to prison I think, that was the last I heard of it. It comes at all levels of the business, The last thing I would ever do is to jeopardize myself, my license, the patient, and my values. It happens. Keep blowing the whistle, someone will eventually listen. I could write a book.
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redzinger8
07:14 PM on 10/05/2012
We need more people like you and we need the government to support them even if it is a government agency being reported.
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icanhazemail
Just say no to Fox
09:29 PM on 10/05/2012
Good for you!
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ugotabkidnme
05:52 PM on 10/05/2012
My sister found her husband on the bathroom floor. She called 911 and then her neighbor, a retired nurse. Her neighbor explained that he had passed. When the ambulance arrived, the EMT's did not perform life saving attempts, they explained he had passed and was taking his body to the hospital- for a death certificate. My sister and family gathered at the hospital and it took 3 hours for a MD to sign a legal death certificate before releasing his body to the funeral home. Fast forward a month later. My sister received a copy of the bill that the hospital submitted to Medicare: $5,000.00 for use of hospital facilities.
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gmikejake
resist evil
09:43 PM on 10/05/2012
Did you challenge the charge?
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ugotabkidnme
12:53 PM on 10/07/2012
I attempted. My sister is the one with the required information and she just complained about it, but would never do anything about it.
11:53 PM on 10/05/2012
Gosh, three hours? Does that seem excessive for a doctor to retrieve and review records, talk to EMT's or coroners and other doctors and familiarize himself with the case so a meaningful cause of death as required by law can be placed on the death certificate? At the same time taking care of the living? The living are even more likely to complain when they don't get what they want right now and have to plonk down $5 for the privilege of attending them.

I swear I'm utterly gobsmacked at the expectations people have when they interact with the medical care system. And how little they want to pay for it.
02:34 AM on 10/06/2012
A doctor does not have to go through all that. The EMT's would have had a report of D.O.A. at the scene 2 minutes tops to read the report. Plus unless a autopsy was performed by the doctor he would not even have a meaningful cause of death. All the Doctor has to do is inspect the body and pronounce time. It would have taken the doctor a total of 10 minutes not hours to accomplish the task.
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ugotabkidnme
12:50 PM on 10/07/2012
They charged Medicare $5,000. for the use of the room. No medical services.
05:51 PM on 10/05/2012
This is peanuts compared to the fraud that goes on in the Defense Dept. We need to crack down on that too!
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redzinger8
07:18 PM on 10/05/2012
I agree. If DOD stayed at the same level of funding we have now we already spend more than the next 10 countries on defense and they are our allies. The GOP makes it sound like we can't defend ourselves if we don't keep spending more and more on defense some of which is not even wanted by the services. They spend, spend, spend as favors and payback to their cronies and backers. I know about government waste by DOD contractors and we are getting taken.
07:58 PM on 10/05/2012
Yeah you want to make a guess on how much the taxpayers got lit up for under Bush/Cheney, since Cheney was ex VP of the firm that got 98% of all the contracts !! You didnt hear the GOP jumping up and down about the AG then did you, and also it was Chneys ex firm that build the bathrooms where some GIs when in there and got electrocuted.. Plus you need to go and read about all the work there that was half done and totally sloopy done, all that was kept pretty quite tho... And our good ole protect us GOP wants to throw 2 trillion more into the DOD over the next 4 years, ofcourse the GOP are real conservatives tho !!!!!
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lara9209
02:20 AM on 10/06/2012
yeah ... but Mittens is ready to just pour more money into it without any ask from anyone in the military (seems the ask is likely coming more from his donors than the military)