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VOTER
Freedom from fear - the philosophy of human rights
12:00 AM on 05/20/2009
It is time to stop the BAN ON GUNS in the Capitol in DC and all State Capitols.

Send emails to Senator Colburn requesting he put the amendment up for a Vote.

WATCH WHAT HAPPENS ...............................
10:07 AM on 05/20/2009
Guns are not banned in my state capitol.
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VOTER
Freedom from fear - the philosophy of human rights
11:55 PM on 05/19/2009
Planning a vacation to a National Park:

Camera
Mosquito Repellent
Extra pair of shoes
Clothes
Map
Compass
Tent
Backpack

What am I forgetting?

Gun and Ammo
10:09 AM on 05/20/2009
That's a good list. I take all those things, plus binocs, a GPS unit, food, and water/water filter.
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
tjr101
Liberal Kennedy/Obama Democrat.
11:52 PM on 05/19/2009
Soon they will be calling for elementary school kids to carry loaded guns. The slippery slop continues.
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teron678
A Pessimistic Optimist
11:54 PM on 05/19/2009
heh .. just don't sh00t me bro .. don't sh00t me ..
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11:59 PM on 05/19/2009
Louisiana already wants to do it. Jindal said he'd sign such a bill.
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tjr101
Liberal Kennedy/Obama Democrat.
12:05 AM on 05/20/2009
Ugh... Republicans
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TJCole
11:44 PM on 05/19/2009
When will they pass a law allowing concealed weapons at bank stock meetings...?

If National Parks, why not Bilderberg Group meetings...?
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henrypapillon
Put a Psychiatrist in every NRA meeting.
11:42 PM on 05/19/2009
Aw, geez, everybody should be able to carry their UZI into the national parks to protect themselves from the wild burros.
11:44 PM on 05/19/2009
nope, just use my UZI on butterflies
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Totto
"Not 'Noise' One Round: *Music*
11:51 PM on 05/19/2009
Waste 'em all! Living things are really scary!
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Quaoar
11:30 PM on 05/19/2009
It's odd that Coburn would be the one pushing this amendment. I didn't think there were any National Parks in Oklahoma.
11:18 PM on 05/19/2009
Regardless on your individual position on gun rights or the credit card bill, I think we can all agree that its asinine to include these issues in the same bill. They should each get an up or down vote on their own merits.
11:26 PM on 05/19/2009
Well, yes I agree somewhat except there are hundreds of add ons like this each month that cover any number of things, it has long been common place to throw the leftovers on to whatever bill is next in line for the sake of expediancy....in general I am fine with this...EXCEPT when congress uses this technique to hide from the public what it is about to pass, such as many of the personal projects that various congressmen and women tried to bury in the original Obama spending bill, even after it was cleaned up their were still over a hundred pet projects that made it through
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omobob
left coast, usa
11:12 PM on 05/19/2009
I’m a NRA member and a RO at a Public Range. Loaded weapons are allowed only on the range. Carrying a loaded weapon is an unnecessary danger for you , your family and others. A loaded weapon is an unsafe weapon. period.
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puffthedragon
progressive
11:27 PM on 05/19/2009
Thank you for your very thoughtful comment.. I wish more of your fellow members possessed as much common sense as you.
11:27 PM on 05/19/2009
really not sure what your trying to say here? R you saying your against having loaded weapons in National Parks?
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omobob
left coast, usa
12:50 AM on 05/20/2009
I am saying a loaded weapon is dangerous no matter where it is. The only persons qualified to carry a loaded firearm in a public area is a trained professional. Unqualified civilians do not have the proper training to safely handle a loaded weapon or make life and death decisions in a public area.
11:05 PM on 05/19/2009
The Dems, with contempt against eveyday Americans rights to own a gun, will stop at nothing until the only people who have guns is the ever growing millitary and police forces across America.
This sets a dangerous precident and blows out the 2nd amendment.
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Totto
"Not 'Noise' One Round: *Music*
11:15 PM on 05/19/2009
Such fear. Such paranoia. Pathetic.
11:29 PM on 05/19/2009
Like your conplacency, in history, has allowed millions of citizens around the world to be slaughtered by their Governments. And this complacency doesnt happen by chance, it is molded and funded by your Govenrment as worldwide. Guns are unsafe, you dont need it for the protection of your family to if you by a gun and hold to much ammo you must be a potential torrorist, or a patriot which is now according to police memos a terrorist.
But I'm sure you can trust every leader in your country to not lie and to put your welfare first.
For me history has provided facts, paranoia or not,
11:41 PM on 05/19/2009
no different then the unfounded fear of the anti gun lobbyist
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zelda777
transcend the B. S.
11:29 PM on 05/19/2009
So, let me get this straight. People are going to need their own personal guns to protect themselves from, or fight against, the "every growing military and police forces across America"???? Hmmm...how patriotic is that sentiment? You gun nuts don't support your own military and police forces?

Doesn't the 2nd amendment say something about a "well-regulated" militia? The Colonies were fighting the occupying British army in that era. Exactly how does that compare with today?
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puffthedragon
progressive
11:35 PM on 05/19/2009
I predict that issue will be raised in several cases over the next eight years in the USSC.. and the gun nuts will have a better understanding of the 2nd.
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Totto
"Not 'Noise' One Round: *Music*
11:01 PM on 05/19/2009
They're over here! The ones with potency problems!
10:39 PM on 05/19/2009
i think we should buy any guns we can get w/ it's ammunition
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Buffyboy
Here it comes, Senior
10:33 PM on 05/19/2009
I think we'd be better off without the Senate, our House of Lords.
10:31 PM on 05/19/2009
Good. This bill, allowing guns in National Parks, is a stupid idea anyway. Now, if only the Dems would stop cow-towing to the GOP and the NRA, and flush this bill down the toilet, where it belongs.
10:38 PM on 05/19/2009
nothing stupid about it, do you always insult things you dont understand or simply didnt grow up around? As for the Dem. cow towing to the Rep. you oculdn't be farther from the truth, THIS is actually a bill that a significant number of Blue Dog Democrats support...why you ask? because a firearm is a tool and its most logical use is out in the wilderness
11:23 PM on 05/19/2009
LOL - You presume too much, sport. Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that insulting a bill would hurt its feelings ... allow me to put forth an apology to the bill, okay? As far as not understanding, or simply not growing up around guns ... I know a thing or two about guns. While I do not keep guns in my home, I do belong to a local shooting range, however, your concern is 'duly noted'.

I'm all for responsible gun ownership; I have no problem whatsoever with private citizens owning guns, on their own property. Allowing them in public places, especially a national park - not forest, sport, park - is quite another story. All you need is one loose cannon in Yellowstone Park at the height of the tourist season ... see where I'm going?

National Parks are a refuge for the people; a place to go to admire the diverse eco-systems in this country, a place to teach our kids. They are not places I should have to wear a bullet-proof vest because some yahoo is missing a few screws and decides to go people-hunting. You want to go hunting? Go to the FOREST in the WILD, not a PUBLIC PARK.

Okay, I'll amend my earlier statement - BLUE Dog Dems cowtowing to the GOP and the NRA. Better?
11:47 PM on 05/19/2009
LOL - You assume too much, sport. You assume that just because I'm personally against guns, I don't know anything about them. Sure, I don't keep guns in my house because I don't want guns in my house, but I do belong to a gun club. Does that count?

Okay, I'll amend my statement ' Now, if only the Blue Dog Dems would stop cow-towing to the GOP and the NRA ..." is that better?

National parks are a quiet refuge, meant to be enjoyed, a place where we can teach our children about this country's history, and the diverse eco-systems encompassed in our parks. Now, why would I need to bring a gun with me? To go people hunting? You want to hunt? Go to forest where hunting is allowed. If you're that paranoid where you have to bring your gun with you to a park, perhaps you should just stay in your backyard.

All you need is one yahoo with a few screws loose bringing a gun to a national park when he's having a bad day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you're going to say, that if you had your gun, you could have stopped the massacre. Well, if I'm not mistaken, our tax dollars pay for park rangers, park police. And, it's THEIR jobs to protect, it's OUR jobs to enjoy.
10:15 PM on 05/19/2009
What a misleading image for this article.. None of those guns shown would be allowed in the parks regardless.. Its a carry/conceal handgun issue..
10:18 PM on 05/19/2009
lol yes i noticed that scare tactic too, the author or editor clearly went looking for a scary photo to insight a panick. In truth its just a modified pistol with a flash suppresure and an extended clip
10:22 PM on 05/19/2009
Well its a fully auto 9mm along side some hybrid AR15...

None of which could be carried in the parks.. If your going to bash the bill HuffPost, at least show images relating to it.
10:49 PM on 05/19/2009
There're two things you can always count on with today's "journalists": they will always get at least one (best case scenario) fact wrong in any article about guns, and they will not bypass a chance to do some scaremongering.
10:34 PM on 05/19/2009
Nothing bigger than a .50 caliber handgun in the parks. Anything more would be crazy...
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10:07 PM on 05/19/2009
if you slip funding for scientific research into a bill, it's an abuse of the earmark system. if you slip in a law to loosen gun control, it's...the...American...way of life....? Republicans took a complete shellacking in recent elections because the public is largely fed-up with their guns-God-gays-abortion rhetoric, so they try to slip this latest ditty into a major economic bill. good going GOP.
10:11 PM on 05/19/2009
your taking a lot for granted there, Abortion is a fairly even split (i am conservaqtive but I am also pro choice), gay marriage is growing in acceptance, and guns r still fiercly protected by their owners across this country. The rise of the liberals in the last cycle was a rejection of Bush (something I support) more then a rejection of GOP ideals
10:12 PM on 05/19/2009
Um, no, it was a rejection of the GOP and their failure to understand reality.
10:35 PM on 05/19/2009
I think it was a rejection of Republicans who spent like Democrats and who acted like wimps most of the time...
10:17 PM on 05/19/2009
African Americans won this election, not God hating, Gun hating gays. Don't you remember prop 8 and this in Cali.
10:21 PM on 05/19/2009
Prop 8 just barely passed though, I have no doubt that in 20 years gay marriage will be excepted by law across the board
10:22 PM on 05/19/2009
Only African Americans won the election... wow.

All this time I thought it was everyone who wanted to point their country in the right direction for a change.