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05:05 PM on 07/01/2009
Oh please. I'm a democrat and even I can see that the democrats caused most of this trouble. This blame-game for the "tough love" governor is ridiculous. No recall. We need to spend what we have. Period.
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kjstjohn
05:42 PM on 07/01/2009
The Democrats did not hobble the state in its ability to raise revenue.
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Joseph A. Palermo
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06:48 PM on 07/01/2009
Charitable, you obviously do not understand the two-thirds rule that the Republicans just exploited to run the state into bankruptcy -- it is 14 Republican Senators did this -- the Assembly even had passed the bills -- 14 -- count 'em -- 14 Republican Senators gave political cover to Arnold and blocked the 3 emergency bills -- this is what happens when Tea Baggers from AM talk radio actually govern -- it's Bush-style governance and to blame the Democrats is really a joke.
12:52 AM on 07/02/2009
Talk about ideology... When the illegals and left revolt they're patriots and when the right does it, they're 'Tea Baggers'. You have zero credibility sir.

The Dems have been running this state since 1988...
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02:07 AM on 07/03/2009
You obviously are forgetting to look at the cause of spending willy-nilly (D) with no regard for the inevitable decline of this fiscal bubble the state has been in since 2003. The dem solution was a band aid on a gaping wound gushing unstoppable blood, or in this case "dollars". The fact that our constitution ALLOWS for the two-thirds rule doesn't mean that they exploited it, they obviously feel as many people actually do, and what the voters voted on the belief of this past election, that spending our way out of this mess is not the answer.

We shouldn't be having "emergency bills" to begin with. And I don't know what AM talk radio has to do with anything, but to blame the Republicans is really a joke.

Please. All politics are irrational. What we can do is show some tough love and let things go back to a spend-what-we-have based economy. Lets give some thought to repealing prop-13, redesigning the constitution, and making marijuana legal. I think there are OBVIOUSLY more productive means of finding a solution than the blame game.

AND yes, Kjstjohn, the democrats DID hobble the state and its ability to raise revenue. All of the current politicians did. Arnold should be commended for doing THE RIGHT THING and showing the balls to get this state out of the NEEDLESS debt it is in.
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MintysMom
04:25 PM on 07/01/2009
Recall him. Now.
03:14 PM on 07/01/2009
I wish there was some way for the state to manage the money that they already have. There were talks of yet another cigarette tax (which just taxes the poor) and gas tax. Not to mention the illegal double taxation on cars. I'm not saying cut taxes, but please manage what you are given. Because if you can't manage the extreme amount of money that the state of California is currently getting, you will never be able to manage any amount of money. I don't know who messed it all up.... but it's messed up.
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jsgaetano
"Conservative" is not a political party, genius.
02:35 PM on 07/01/2009
Too much reality. Right wingers will never read it- their heads might assplode.
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RogerHWerner
12:42 PM on 07/01/2009
Grey Davis was a real live boogie man. Another example of the right exploiting a difficult situation for their own gain. This time Schwarzenegger is in an even worse position than Davis. I wish we had time to evict him the governor's mansion and elect anyone who promises to place the public before party and never behave ideologically.
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Joseph A. Palermo
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Joseph A. Palermo
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11:04 AM on 07/01/2009
If the Republicans' free-market prescriptions for creating a prosperous and efficient society work so perfectly -- then why, after three decades of setting the agenda for our nation's economic policies, do we find ourselves in this Great Depression-level predicament?

The State of California finds itself in the condition because of a small Republican minority imposing extremist agenda on the rest of us -- like signing a "pledge" like boy scouts or the Jonas Brothers NEVER to raise taxes no matter what the conditions -- When Schwarzenegger is through abusing this state it will look like Mississippi.

Maybe some of the people who comment here attacking labor unions and state workers should go track down and ask Alan Greenspan or Grover Norquist or Arthur Laffer or Stephen Moore or Larry Kudlow or John Taylor or any of the other free-market ideologues how this "perfect" system created the current crisis -- even Greenspan admitted his worldview was "flawed."

Or maybe we could summon the ghosts of Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman and ask: "Annie, Uncle Miltie, you both said that individual greed would translate into collective prosperity. We tried the greed part. What gives?"
11:42 AM on 07/01/2009
...well put.
look at the end of the day Humans are animals and will always fall into gluttony and greed if go unchecked. Those Capitalists or Ayn Rand egoists need to recognize that balance is the only path to quality of life. To ignore these realities and believe that people are basically good and will do what's right is immature.
Some would say that I am cynical. Maybe so. I would say a historian that recognizes other cultures and nations that have balance and understand value. Trust me you(ed.) won't get it at Wal Mart. But you will definitely if you go outside and listen to nature breathe......
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Joseph A. Palermo
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11:55 AM on 07/01/2009
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-a-palermo/california-needs-a-new-co_b_207535.html

Thank you kappaO8 your comment is appreciated -- this crisis is serious but most commentary is not -- i.e. always splitting the difference and deflecting the real blame.
12:04 PM on 07/01/2009
When the Evangelical ideologues hitched their wagon to the Rethuglican meme of free market capitalistic greed, they provided it with their own substantive religiosity, where by greed was not only good, but Christ-like.

To me, this symbiotic relationship deserves to have a stake pounded through its blood sucking heart.

Rethuglican/Evangelical Ideology depends, nay thrives, on ignorance, prejudice, and fundamentalist primacy. The sooner they are perceived as the pariah that they are, the better off we will be.
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LeftRight
TANSTAAFL
08:25 AM on 07/01/2009
Boy I bet the Californians are glad now that they not only passed Prop 13, but that they ousted Gray Davis!!! Ahhhhhhhnold is doing such a FABULOUS job!!
05:35 PM on 07/01/2009
Well, I am 42 and Prop 13 was passed by my parents. It did help them out (and still does). Though I paid for it somewhat while in Jr High and High School, as the Republicans stole money from education to make up for the shortfall in Property taxes. Of course from what I understand, Big business were the real people to make out with Prop 13. It cut their property taxed down low and kept them low. Perhaps we need to cut Commercial property out of the Prop 13 tax cuts.

I didn't care for Gray Davis, but he was sure better than the crap Republicans that preceeded him and the one that followed him.

How about we make big corporations pay their fair share of taxes? That would be a change for CA. It would be a postive one that would help out regular working people better than cutting services.
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LeftRight
TANSTAAFL
10:21 AM on 07/02/2009
Nah, we can't ask those poor companies to actually pay TAXES!!!!! They might have to go from a 50% profit margin down to a 49% profit margin!!!