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Pete Geller
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06:42 PM on 12/30/2012
"Richard Schonfeld, an attorney representing Cuellar, said he was pleased prosecutors opted for a lesser charge for his client." Sorry mouthpiece I'm not pleased that he wasn't charged with a felony. By charging him with a misdemeanor you're sending a message that this behavior is not a big deal. If the situation involved a person both would be charged for murder. Even if he wasn't the one who actually beheaded the bird he is still responsible and I really don't think we need people like that near our judicial system. Furthermore as a student in law school he knew this prior to his actions. Mr. Schonfeld can only be pleased for immoral reasons....
09:28 AM on 12/31/2012
"If the situation involved a person both would be charged for murder."

What on earth do you mean by this irrelevant comment? Killing animals is perfectly legal as anyone who's ever had a burger should know. What makes it illegal is killing protected animals, killing something that doesn't belong to you and/or killing in a cruel manner. In this case it wasn't their bird so destruction of property would be a suitable charge. Prosecutors will have to prove the animal suffered unnecessarily though to get anything more.
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Pete Geller
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11:01 AM on 12/31/2012
Not irrelevant at all although I didn't express my point well enough for you to understand. My point is that when you're with someone who commits a crime and you don't report it, or are involved in said crime, you are just as guilty as the primary in our system. Since the charge is felony cruelty to animals it is appropriate to charge both with the same crime. As far as what prosecutors will or will not have to prove, only time will tell. And killing animals is not perfectly legal. Don't believe me? Try it with your neighbors pet and see how it works out for you.......
11:18 AM on 12/31/2012
You're missung the point. They didn't kill this animal to eat it. They killed it for pure fun and enjoyed murdering it. That makes them very sick, depraved people.
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Linus521
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01:46 PM on 12/31/2012
If you hurt or torture a dog or cat, it carries a felony. Animal cruelty is, animal cruelty.
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Pete Geller
I came, I saw, I wtf?
03:29 PM on 12/31/2012
I don't know if you're responding to my comment or someone else's comment. If replying to my comment you may want to read it again and pay attention to quotes too. Have a safe and happy New Years!
05:46 PM on 12/30/2012
So when I went turkey hunting was that a felony or misdemeanor according to the nevada voters for animals? Most likely a felony since I ate the bird afterward. Might have been additional charges since mashed potato's and gravy were used...
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used2b2
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06:28 AM on 12/31/2012
Apples to Watermelons.
09:06 AM on 12/31/2012
You regular chase turkeys and behead them and play soccer with their heads? Because if you do, there's something wrong with you.
09:20 AM on 12/31/2012
Not really, but it's pretty extreme to charge two 24 year old kids with a felony who got drunk and killed a bird..It's a bird...Not the brightest thing to do....but it's a bird...
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05:14 PM on 12/30/2012
Nowadays a bird life is worth more than a human life
.smh
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shiny73
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02:19 PM on 12/31/2012
How so? One of the guys was only charged with a misdemeanor.
03:41 PM on 12/31/2012
rather not get into that
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edejan
01:22 PM on 12/30/2012
This is why there is dwindling respect for "law and order" in this country. Some overprivileged sociopath gets a felony charged pleaded down to a misdemeanor so his "future" won't be impacted. Meanwhile countless poor and/or minority kids get hard time often leading to life imprisonment for smoking a jay. The cruelty and self-entitlement displayed by these monsters - who have no respect for life - show they will be monsters in the future. And they will be the "ruling class."
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Pete Geller
I came, I saw, I wtf?
06:46 PM on 12/30/2012
As a law school student there is the potential for him to end up a judge yet this behavior is the same behavior seen by serial killers when they are children.... Just because he's never been caught before doesn't mean this is the first time he's done something like this either.
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Jasmine Howard
10:26 PM on 12/30/2012
Exactly - this is classic behavior of a sociopath.
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DandaPanda
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12:16 PM on 12/30/2012
No nono..should have been a felony and should do time..he is depraved and dangerous. Also the CA board of bar examineers shouldnrefuse to let them sit for the exam..but even before that, UC Berkley law should boot them.
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matt hunnicutt
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11:41 AM on 12/30/2012
I give up. These guys do something unspeakable and get a misdemeanor. Meanwhile, people are doing hard time for growing marijuana. The lack of common sense in this world is mind boggling. I can't stand it.
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Jasmine Howard
10:30 PM on 12/30/2012
And someone who beats his wife to within an inch of her life is out after one night in county jail so he can finish the job the next day (and people wonder why abuse victims seldom report their abusers). The priorities of the justice system in this country are ridiculously twisted, thanks in part to Reagan's 'war on drugs' (which was a campaign ploy, BTW). The amount of money taxpayers waste on imprisoning pot smokers is outrageous.
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11:27 AM on 12/30/2012
I think coating their stripped and tied up bodies with "bird yummies" and putting them back in the bird house is a good idea....let them be picked and pecked at till they have lost a good amount of flesh. THEN kick them out of school and disqualify them from potential law careers....that'll set a good example for the next sick person who thinks that would be fun to do.
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09:18 PM on 12/29/2012
Hope these clowns never pass Character & Fitness to sit for the bar exam.

And Berkeley Law? Taking up two seats that would be better appreciated and respected by other applicants.
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08:58 AM on 12/30/2012
That's right by somebody worthy. These two losers appear to be demented little boys at the age of 24. LOSERS...
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kareemachan
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08:31 PM on 12/29/2012
"Eric has an exemplary background" according to his lawyer.

Yeah, so exemplary that he laughed when the other guy(s) killed an innocent animal and played with its body.

Sounds like he'll probably end up defending people like himself if/when he finished law school.
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DandaPanda
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12:16 PM on 12/30/2012
He will get the boot..he is done..
07:38 PM on 12/29/2012
That is beyond psycho!!! They are extremely sick poor excuses for human beings. Im sure theyve done this type of thing before. Their families probably know they are sick too. Psychopaths....Normal people dont do that. Its an evil, torturous, murderous thing to do.
05:11 PM on 12/29/2012
How many off you commenters enjoyed eating a turkey this year?
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slocomgp
Reality has a liberal bias........
07:46 PM on 12/29/2012
Really a stupid comparison. I guess one shouldn't expect more from a slumlord.
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cadaei
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11:13 AM on 12/30/2012
It's actually not a stupid comparison at all. Meat eaters know that there is extreme cruelty and neglect that must happen to put meat on their plate, yet we pretend that this isn't so and call ourselves "animal lovers", fawn on our pets and get outraged by cases such as this. Do you really think the experience of this beheaded bird was so much worse than the experience of the typical turkey raised and killed for food? At least this animal got to live a semi-free life for a while and wasn't kept penned in a tiny cage, surrounded by disease and filth and thousands of other animals, pumped full of antibiotics and hormones and then callously slaughtered.
10:06 AM on 12/31/2012
Apples to tractors.
04:48 PM on 12/29/2012
a couple of real winners
01:54 PM on 12/29/2012
Now it's a bird, next a cat, after that it will be a Person. Serial killers often start out killing animals.

If you are able to commit such a heinous crime, their right to become a lawyer should be provoked forever.
08:00 PM on 12/29/2012
UHHHHH! Didn't you mean revoked?
08:52 PM on 12/29/2012
Sure, I guess so!! Thanks for taking the time to correct me. I have an essay that needs proof reading as well. :)
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Jasmine Howard
10:34 PM on 12/30/2012
Sadly I wouldn't be surprised if the accomplice had no issue finishing his law degree. I'm still horrified that Michael Vick was ever allowed back into the NFL - he actually admitted to killing some of his dogs who were underperformers by hanging them from the ceiling, and electrocuting them for his own amusement, and now he's back to being adored by thousands of fans on a weekly basis. Disgusting.
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Annie12
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01:35 PM on 12/29/2012
What makes a bird beheading exotic?
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