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Shadow
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11:39 AM on 10/06/2009
Ms. Huffington. Why are you "conflicted" over Polanski's arrest?
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yellowdoggie
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11:41 AM on 10/06/2009
I mean it's not like he rape-raped her or anything...
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11:42 AM on 10/06/2009
LOL!! "fanned".
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ofcoursejesusisblack
Are we there yet?
11:43 AM on 10/06/2009
Thank you!
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11:38 AM on 10/06/2009
I'm sure he has a lot of reading he can catch up on. Resisting extradition is yet another example of this "man's" bad judgment. At least this time the victim is himself.
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11:38 AM on 10/06/2009
Yeah I can see how they would consider him a flight risk. At least Polanski did the honorable thing and tried to buy his way out of trouble with a $1M offer.
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11:35 AM on 10/06/2009
Whether you like them or not, I'm glad the Swiss are doing the right thing and will keep Polanski in jail. BTW, I'm a leftist who believes he got off w/a light sentence in the beginning. He drugged and raped an underaged girl who, at her age, didn't realize the import of what had happened to her, nor even the kind of world her mother was allowing her to enter so early in life. No one was protecting her from the predators. After all, it looks so glamorous and grown up from the outside, but there's a lot of sleaze, arrested development and bad behavior on the inside.
06:05 PM on 10/06/2009
What's this got to do with being a leftist>
I'm a progressive liberal and I say - nail the bas*ard!
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JWB2012
11:30 AM on 10/06/2009
HE DID THE DEED! What's all the debate about?!
11:29 AM on 10/06/2009
he raped a child
11:22 AM on 10/06/2009
My advice to Mr. Polanski would be to voluntarily go back to California and point out that a plea bargain had been reached to set his punishment at "time served." He should explain why he feels that this was a just and fair resolution originally. He then should explain that he was afraid that the judge was going to reject that deal and give him a long sentence. He should apologize for committing the rape and apologize for leaving the country. If possible, he should see if his victim would come and repeat her statements that she does not wish him to serve any further time. He should have character witnesses testify that he has exhibited good behavior for many years. And then he should "throw himself on the mercy of the court."

My guess is that he would receive, at the most, a small additional sentence. Then he would have it all behind him officially for the rest of whatever many years he might have.

Were he my friend or relative, that is what I would recommend to him.
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ofcoursejesusisblack
Are we there yet?
11:24 AM on 10/06/2009
If he were my friend or relative he would have been turned in a long time ago.
11:38 AM on 10/06/2009
Except for bringing the victim to testify (he's paid her off, so any statements by her are not objective), I generally agree.

If he brings character witnesses into play, though, he also puts into play the government's ability to try to make the case that he continued carrying on with underage girls while "in exile." So, he should only follow that tack if he's not vulnerable there. (Suggestion to Mr. Polanski: do not call Woody Allen as a character witness!)

I don't know what the appropriate sentence should be, though. He has flaunted our laws for a long time and made himself an international celebrity, while also thumbing his nose at the very real crime of statutory rape.

If I were a judge, consistent with whatever precedent there might or might not be, I would be inclined to have him spend more than a "small additional" time in prison.

If he were my friend or relative, I'd have recommended that he turn himself in a long time ago.
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EmmaJ76
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12:05 PM on 10/06/2009
I read about Polanski agreeing to pay but I don't think it's as cut and dry as he agreed to pay therefore her testimony would be flawed:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091003/en_afp/entertainmentfilmswitzerlanduspolanskicrime

Disgraced filmmaker Roman Polanski agreed to pay his sexual assault victim 500,000 dollars as part of a 1990s civil settlement but did not live up to the terms, the Los Angeles Times reported Saturday....
Under the deal, Polanski was to pay Geimer 500,000 dollars with interest by October 11, 1995, but the deadline passed with no check from Polanski, according to the court documents.
11:20 AM on 10/06/2009
Thank goodness!

Now hopefully he get s extradited and serves jail time like any other non rich, non famous child r@pist.
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Eris23
Justice is in indefinite detention.
11:29 AM on 10/06/2009
Karma has already been served in a way. The months he's going to spend in jail during the extradition process alone are longer than the 45 days he may have served if he didn't flea from justice in the 70s. Plus, he's got another charge coming his way for running which, despite all the logical fallacies that Polanski's fan club have employed, he has no mitigating or excusing factors with which to fight the charge.

Payback's a b*tch, Roman. :)
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yellowdoggie
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11:42 AM on 10/06/2009
Ain't it the truth. Ain't it the truth.
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madisonhack
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03:31 PM on 10/06/2009
The term is felony bail jumping.
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Gayrove
11:12 AM on 10/06/2009
Oh, those dried up Swiss mountaineers are just dealing out payback for having to reveal the secrets of their bank accounts, which was the greatest blow against anal retention since Nixon's retirement from public life, not to mention, impacting the Holy 'Swiss-Bottom Line.
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MsMassachusetts
Wit is cultured insolence. - Aristotle
11:04 AM on 10/06/2009
This is one liberal democrat who is thrilled he is not going to be released on bail. His privileged butt should sit in jail for the rest of his life. This weekend I had the chance to rent a recent movie Debra Winger starred in. I couldn't do it. My anger at her for supporting this slime would completely take out of the story. Jonathan Demme was the director and I also think he is a morally bankrupt sleaze for signing that petition. These idiots in Hollywood are so out of touch, it's scary.
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LateBoomer2
To love beauty is to see light. -Victor Hugo
11:33 AM on 10/06/2009
I agree, but give it some time. Ms. Winger's done some stellar work. (For example, I know I will always return to "Shadowlands" for inspiration.) You have to separate the work from the person.

But you're right, for now, for the time being, it does color my opinion, and what I want to see... I've always hoped to get myself to read something by Salman Rushdie, but THAT project's on indefinite hold for a while anyway... Sheesh....

And no, I don't think he should be in jail for the rest of his life (maybe you were just being hyperbolic). But he should have to face the music and do his time, as the law requires.
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Eris23
Justice is in indefinite detention.
11:57 AM on 10/06/2009
What's funny is that, especially under your point of separating the art from the artist, Winger just made a great point for the side of movie piracy. ;) Seriously, it is hard for me to do anything but laugh at the absolute extremes these same people take regarding teenagers downloading their movies, where their parents end up essentially getting extorted by the entertainment industry to stay out of a criminal trial, all while they think Polanski needs lenient treatment. They literally are the modern day aristocracy.
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Eris23
Justice is in indefinite detention.
11:34 AM on 10/06/2009
Agreed. Frankly, Winger made herself one of the more loathesome out of the bunch by accusing all of us of being "Philistines." I'm a lefty, a lawyer and an artist. The notion that all of us who feel the law needs to be applied are just part of a low brow prudish mob that doesn't appreciate art is truly disgusting. I love art. I'm not a big fan of people who break the law in ways related to self gratification who don't even have the spine to face the consequences when they come their way. It's simply cowardice.
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11:37 AM on 10/06/2009
Well said. Thanks.
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yellowdoggie
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11:45 AM on 10/06/2009
Agreed.
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jeburr24
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11:00 AM on 10/06/2009
I can't believe some people say he should have been warned. What, so he could have slipped out of town again? Unbelievable.
10:56 AM on 10/06/2009
Whoopi will go on a hunger strike.
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weebils
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11:00 AM on 10/06/2009
She is a big gal. I think she could last for a while.
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EmmaJ76
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11:06 AM on 10/06/2009
Whoopi really disappointed me. I could barely contain the anger when I read what she said:

I know it wasn’t rape-rape. I think it was something else, but I don’t believe it was rape-rape.”

Rape rape - which is what Whoopi - not so bad because you're friend did it!!!???

Good article on what she said here:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/lucyjones/100003657/whoopi-goldberg-defends-roman-polanski-it-wasnt-rape-rape/

"“Rape-rape?” As opposed to just ‘rape’? Goldberg was trying to pin down the exact crime Polanski was charged with but she still seems to be suggesting that there are different levels of forcing someone to have sexual intercourse without their consent, that some rapes are better than others. What a dangerous and foolish thing to say."
11:40 AM on 10/06/2009
The more I think about what Whoopi said,the more distressed I get about this whole case.In the case of a 13 year old girl,plied with drugs and alcohol,there is no such thing as "not rape-rape". I wonder why so many women (and men) in Hollywood defend Polanksi to their own reputation's harm.Could it be that they not only sympathize with Polanksi,but..empathize?You figure that out.
11:46 AM on 10/06/2009
Remember "rape rape" is what Catholic Priests tried to claim they didn't commit. :)

I'm sure that Whoopi and the rest of the morally bankrupt Hollywood elite don't acknowledge that inconvenient reality when they defend Polanski, one of their own, while they had a field day (properly) criticizing rapists in the Church.

Ironically, they also (properly) criticized the Church's Hierarchy for defending and enabling these rapists...which, interestingly enough, is exactly what Whoopi and Woody Allen and others are doing now...
pricespector
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10:54 AM on 10/06/2009
Here are all the Hollywood progressive elite signatories on Polanski's freedom petition; do what you will with them.

http://www.sacd.fr/Tous-les-signataires-de-la-petition-All-signing-parties.1341.0.html
11:08 AM on 10/06/2009
Disgusting. Or should I say, dégoûtant !
11:38 AM on 10/06/2009
Indeed. Why can't they be more like this -

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better yet, i hope they give him a nice 8x10 cell right next door to charles manson.

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11:13 AM on 10/06/2009
Tilda Swinton?! Now here is an actress that I have always respected for her talent and the way she stands out from the typical Hollywood crowd. Pathetic.
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11:43 AM on 10/06/2009
She was very good in "Burn After Reading" but she may have just been playing herself.
10:47 AM on 10/06/2009
They consider him a flight risk? Gee...ya think?
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10:45 AM on 10/06/2009
" Requests that if not released to be served cheese having larger holes "..