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COMMUNITY PUNDITS
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Waltfl 01:52 PM on 05/01/2013
Not paying fairly, not giving a job because you are only looking at balance sheets, only looking at how to make a profit. That goes against God!
Bravo, Pope Francis! Tell `em! These people in Bangladesh are sewing our duffle bags, and tennis shoes in 12 hour shifts, 7 days a week. Many of them are children. It's called outsourcing for profit maximization, and it is done so the  Read More...
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Luuke
10:33 AM on 05/02/2013
Perhaps when lazy Americans put their soda and burgers down and start manufacturing maybe then the jobs that went overseas may return till then complain all you want......There is a reason why Germany is top notch at manufacturing.....
11:05 AM on 05/02/2013
why were they all moved over seas and millions laid off who been on the job for years faithfully? Cheap next to nothing labor no family could even live off of? 
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methnkng
03:56 PM on 05/02/2013
Germany protects the wages of its work force and has laws to keep business there.
10:29 AM on 05/02/2013
The Pope is certainly speaking about the context of (the cardinal sin) Greed, its consequences and injustices. There is another cardinal sin to consider as well, which is Envy: "...the feeling of discontent towards someone's traits, status, abilities, or rewards". The posting here are littered with class warfare and the unions crusade against corporate profits. This is an outright display of Envy. Beware the pastures you wander in.
11:20 AM on 05/02/2013
Rather called greed? glutton? envy not enough money, then the guy next door? envy and jealousy of other nations natural resources? That kind of envy and jealousy? Or enough is never enough $$ envy? worship of wealth as a god? Jesus speaks much on this does He not? ill gotten gains off the very backs of ones own citizens, hard earned labor dollars? Jesus knew well, why HE was flipping over tables, buy a dove for your sins to be forgiven, idol wares being sold? Did Jesus maybe knew that  greed itself , creates poverty and  those in seats of power, through their unrighteous laws created, benefited only the few and greed also can  maintain that poverty? Unrighteous Laws, that do not distribute Equality Rights, Freedom and Protection for all?  And would Jesus not be in also the Union crusades standing and demanding Righteousness,  against such inequality?
01:27 PM on 05/02/2013
Wow, someone is really practicing their Rath today!!
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unebaiser
Walk backwards in the daylight.
07:31 PM on 05/02/2013
So which is superior,the corporate greed,which is obvious ,or the liliputians envy,maybe not so much? Just what kind of pasture is this,anyway?
08:28 PM on 05/02/2013
Neither is superior, that's my point. Someone hears something they agree with and they run with blinders on (i.e. into the pasture) not taking into account the effect of their actions on other values that they claim to uphold. You can't cherry pick your cardinal sins and assign superiority.
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Luuke
10:22 AM on 05/02/2013
So far this Pope has made all the right noises.......More power to him....The previous one was just like ummmm a German ..
01:43 PM on 05/02/2013
"...once profit becomes the exclusive goal, if it is produced by improper means and without the common good as its ultimate end, it risks destroying wealth and creating poverty."

"Lowering the level of protection accorded to the rights of workers, or abandoning mechanisms of wealth redistribution in order to increase the country's international competitiveness, hinder the achievement of lasting development."

"Grave imbalances are produced when economic action, conceived merely as an engine for wealth creation, is detached from political action, conceived as a means for pursuing justice through redistribution."

Pope Benedict, 'Caritas in Veritate', 2009

You are debunked.
02:57 PM on 05/02/2013
Well done!

Unfortunately, there are news sources that only cover statements from popular individuals depending on the "juiciness" of the things they say.

Unfortunately still, there are people who base all their judgements on popular individuals depending on what their favorite news source says about that particular person.
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tricksterwolf
Indep. shemaIe werewolf, furry, brony, Homestuck.
10:12 AM on 05/02/2013
And the solution to the economic conditions in Bangladesh is...?
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unebaiser
Walk backwards in the daylight.
07:33 PM on 05/02/2013
Kill all the lawyers.
Boo2You2
Hatefulness is not a virtue
10:05 AM on 05/02/2013
The new Pope needs to stop that. We all know that Christ was a Conservative, as he was just like the Christian Conservatives of today. The Pope keeps doing that and he is going to lose a lot of his following, and that means a loss of currency.
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TrousersForDinosaurs
Mostly Harmless
08:14 AM on 05/03/2013
Conservatives don't upset the status quo or hang out with 'undesirables'.
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hisashota
09:38 AM on 05/02/2013
ok then pay your employees a liveable wage......this goes for all christian employers .....my wife is a teacher at a private christian school and she makes 26,000 a year .....that is 2000 more than someone 70yrs old would make on social security at full retirement....
01:45 PM on 05/02/2013
It's a lot more than people who can currently only get part time work make.

Count your blessings.
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hisashota
07:09 PM on 05/02/2013
my  blessing ?...that is the point " a lot more than "....for me i am doing just fine...retired nice pension with a private firm, social security , others......my criticism is with these organized churches who pay their employees chump wages.....and these churches are tax exempted, make billions off of donations and investments off of these donations.....and .and building mega churches....i mean temples...
08:35 AM on 05/02/2013
These comments from the same church that seldom pays its employees a living wage.
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progressiveG
Please do disagree with me, but be nice.
09:20 AM on 05/02/2013
Employees that are part time or full time with food and lodging paid for, they are living just fine.
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hisashota
09:53 AM on 05/02/2013
are you nuts.....my wife works full time , lives at home with me and would be on welfare if she had to depend on the wages paid by her christian employer......and she is a teacher with a 4 year degree from a bible college .
11:33 AM on 05/02/2013
Parishioners pay very well through their own hard earned labor $$ also given FREELY,  in caring fully for providing all the needs of the Church and  Cardinals? Bishops? Priest their clothing, shelter, food, banquets,  bills...get also full health care paid for, church up keep etc and happy to hear priest also get yearly wage also on top do they not, happy to hear that also? Their school Teachers get what 26,000 a year, but no shelter, food or clothing nor fully paid health care, bills paid etc? Interesting.
01:45 PM on 05/02/2013
Such as?
08:27 AM on 05/02/2013
Maybe he should clean up his own house before peering into others. I wonder why he hasn't taken a stand on the pedophilia that rocks the roman catholic church. This activity is a disgusting blot on an organization that represents the righteousness of God and respect of human dignity.
01:48 PM on 05/02/2013
'pedophilia that rocks the roman catholic church'

That wasn't a true statement even a decade ago in the midst of the abuse scandal. Did your newpaper subscription lapse?
08:17 AM on 05/02/2013
He needs to mind his own business and practice what hes preaching.. THe church pays slave wages too..
El Justiciero
Everyone deserves a living wage!
01:47 PM on 05/02/2013
yes, he should practice what he preaches, clean up his own house and all that but why mind his own business in this issue? I can't stand organized religion but I am thrilled that this Pope is making an issue of THIS.
01:48 PM on 05/02/2013
What? Where?
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recless
Evidence first. Believe later. Maybe.
08:13 AM on 05/02/2013
Gotta luv a Jesuit. They never afraid to speak it straight up.
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NYC123
07:53 AM on 05/02/2013
This is typical and expected commentary from a head of state, and the Vatican – which are one and the same.. To think with all the ills in the world -- he chooses Bangladesh to make a point about greed.. And because the greed was “Bangladesh focus… it hit the tin ear of culpability around the world.

The Pope had an opportunity to attack the ills of greed with “a bully pulpit salvo” but chose to miss the real target…and instead chose to bite into a mouse. Most Popes rarely give frontal attacks from the bully-pulpit to the rich and powerful, the coughers to their treasuries around the world.. And yes the same people that make up the body of companies -- that outsource jobs and manufacturing to 3rd world countries; and blind themselves to the issues of: wages, benefits, healthcare, working conditions -- as probably the case in this instants -- where a factory collapsed in Bangladesh killing 400 people.
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xNessaxo18
Live like you were dying
07:44 AM on 05/02/2013
"That goes against God." I am Catholic myself but even I know that not everyone is Catholic and not everyone lives by Gods "rules." Humans are imperfect. Yes, it is very sad that people have to work incredibly hard for little wages but saying that is not what God wanted, in my opinion, won't do a whole lot. It is quite an unfortunate event.
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07:39 AM on 05/02/2013
Profit drive and Christianity have nothing in common.
They are really opposites.
01:28 PM on 05/02/2013
Please.....If there was no profit to be made....there would be NO churches. I guess you forgot about a little thing called the crusades. For decades Christians looted the middle east and brought back treasures. Old School Profit Drive. Now they just scare little old ladies with the boogie man and promises of heaven. Pass the plate........Pastor needs a new car!
01:49 PM on 05/02/2013
Oh, and I suppoose you believe that Jerusalem was built by Muslims.
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04:46 PM on 05/02/2013
Thats a scam.
The teachings dont ask for donations.
El Justiciero
Everyone deserves a living wage!
01:48 PM on 05/02/2013
Not what Joel Osteen says. . . .
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04:46 PM on 05/02/2013
Osteen is a snake oil salesman.
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07:30 AM on 05/02/2013
Not paying fairly, not giving a job because you are only looking at balance sheets, only looking at how to make a profit. That goes against God!
The Pope has condemned the GOP.
The Ryan budget was deemed "IMMOral" by the Catholic bishops.
More importantly it was also condemned by the Nuns on a Bus.
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lowrodiay65
07:22 AM on 05/02/2013
Gee, next someone will be telling us the greed is not good.
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recless
Evidence first. Believe later. Maybe.
08:08 AM on 05/02/2013
Funny that. Always tickles me funny bone when I hear a Catholic say that greed is good... I mean, it is a CARDINAL sin, not a venial sin. Gotta love the deer caught in the headlights look when you point out the hypocrisy...
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Athiest4ever
Yeah, it's really Atheist
02:45 PM on 05/02/2013
Religion is hypocrisy, and the followers cherry pick what they want that makes them happy, nothing to do with love thy fellow man.
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TrousersForDinosaurs
Mostly Harmless
08:22 AM on 05/03/2013
Cardinal sins can be mortal or venial, they are subjective and I think it's meant to be the severity that decides whether or not god forgives you, so if i say i like my friend's shoes, that's probably okay, if i steal them, probably okay, if i kill her for them, probably not cool. I don't speak for god because i'm not a pope or a liar, just explaining the nature of 'sin' (jeebus, i hate the word 'sin', makes me feel dirty inside, just goes to show you can be an atheist who is still emotionally bruised by the church, grr!