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09:32 AM on 05/07/2013
Of course it must be the teachers fault. Unless you look at the raw materials that they have to work with. Test scores only tell part of the story. Couple that with communities who cut funding for education before any other consideration. Hell we don't need an educated public. The masses are so much easier to control if they don't know anything and the wealthy can continue to view the poor as cheap labor.
10:42 AM on 05/07/2013
"aggravated by the recession and burgeoning teacher pension costs"
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Mark Wisnewski
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09:22 AM on 05/07/2013
As long as we have enough money for drones and bombs, we're OK.
09:03 AM on 05/07/2013
I don't have any children and I am not connected to the education system here at home, let alone in the USA. However, it breaks my heart to see this happening. Those children deserve to be educated and the teachers should be commended for their desire to do their jobs.

I've always believed that educators should be of the highest quality. Skilled and trained professionals that are valued and compensated at a level that the teaching career is highly competitive. Then I look at the education system in much of the USA and I feel like crying.
09:45 AM on 05/07/2013
I just read about a hyper speed rocket America tested recently. It reached speeds of Mach 5.1 and it costs 300 million dollars to do. If we don't get it together in Detroit we are going to have a DMZ area. 8 million people lived in Detroit in the 80s. The population is now 800,000. Reading about these teachers makes me sick. We need our funds at home. To develop America's real future. Which to me is the children and young adults seeking education. Instead we are colonizing Iraq and building useless airplanes.
09:57 AM on 05/07/2013
Education? STEM jobs are the easiest to offshore. Seriously, I can get on the phone to India or Ukraine right now and offshore just about any engineering job for a fraction of US pay. Or we just import someone on a work visa. Its easy. And Democrats like Chuck Schumer are working hard to triple the number of work visas in the "immigration reform" bill which should be called the "maximum wage act of 2013". And if you complain about work visas or illegals I will call you xenophobic or racist.
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09:03 AM on 05/07/2013
Michigan law requires mandatory pension contributions for teachers. This may not be bargained during collective bargaining. The school system must fund the pension system at about 30% of the teacher's pay. It is burying every school system.
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PARepublican
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08:30 AM on 05/07/2013
What I find appalling is the fact that Afro-American Firefighters, Police and other professional trades get a lower pass threshold but minority teachers and students don't. They should lower the test scores for all minorities.
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usmc ok
Proper application of knowledge is the true power.
08:45 AM on 05/07/2013
Plus we should make sure that anyone working a low-end fast food job should make enough so that only one parent has to work, can afford an upper-middle class home, has the spending money to buy the latest in techno gadgets and set aside a 401K to retire early.
09:22 AM on 05/07/2013
You are either very young, very ignorant or just being an a#@.
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Coasterr
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09:28 AM on 05/07/2013
Not possible.
08:47 AM on 05/07/2013
@PARepub - You're not serious, are you?
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08:30 AM on 05/07/2013
Yet in the case of the Abrams tank, there's a bipartisan push to spend an extra $436 million on a weapon the experts explicitly say is not needed.
09:23 AM on 05/07/2013
Where do you think the 436 million will go if they don't build the tanks?
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I'm trying real hard to be the shepherd.
09:31 AM on 05/07/2013
Who knows, probably the drone program. I just used it because it seems that our priorities seem upside down. I find education to be a far better investment than tanks.
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08:25 AM on 05/07/2013
This story needs an update. Last night the BV School Board elected to lay off everyone except the superintendent and principals (go figure). It was on the local news this morning that BV was closed indefinitely.
09:24 AM on 05/07/2013
Leadership always takes care of their own. You did notice that congress took care of the flight delays only because it affected them personally.
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08:23 AM on 05/07/2013
When not 1 out of 500 students can pass standardized test there are those who now think rewarding these teachers should be done. These must be the kind of educated, highly skilled students the left see as our future. As long as the teachers get theirs.
08:32 AM on 05/07/2013
You need to go back to school. Your sentence structure and syntax are abhorrent.
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08:35 AM on 05/07/2013
So you design a system where the kids and teachers are set up to fail, and then blame them when they fail?

Yeah, sounds fair. Some people aren't smart enough to look past the word "fail" and understand how they are evaluated. Think deeper.
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queenjupiter
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08:06 AM on 05/07/2013
teachers do not control home life. I've seen great teachers at failing schools. we cannot work miracles. if the parents do not care the kids prob. won't either.
09:27 AM on 05/07/2013
America has institutionalized child rearing and broke up the family unit by building an economy that requires both parents to work. Do you really think all these parents are bad? Maybe they are just not available anymore to help with the tons of homework schools now send home.
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queenjupiter
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05:23 PM on 05/07/2013
i'll give you that some do care and wish that they had more time. I will also stand by what I said in that I have actually taught at severely failing schools. I have taught in the midst of the ghetto and unfortunately there are a great deal of parents that don't care about school. they do not value education. at the last awards day I couldn't give any parent the award for helping out the most because not a single one ever came to a single school event.
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08:04 AM on 05/07/2013
They've got 471 students at 27 teachers that's an average of 17 per classroom. There are schools in Philly that would love to see that kind of teacher/student ratio. Add in the cost of overhead, administrators, bldg maintenance and this was unsustainable... has been for a long time. No sympathy here.

The bottom line is when you consolidate, you lose employees at the TOP. Fewer board members, principals, counselors, etc. And if they are the ones making the decisions, then it's no wonder they are extremely reluctant to consolidate. Question: Are they running out of money to pay administrators??? Or just the teachers.
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08:27 AM on 05/07/2013
"They've got 471 students at 27 teachers that's an average of 17 per classroom."

Except kids are not divided up "on an average" like that. What you find a BV are several special education classrooms with 4 to 8 students in them, meanwhile the general education classes have 29-35 students.
09:31 AM on 05/07/2013
Yes the top always takes care of themselves. This is true in all American hierarchies. Do you really think congress will every approve term limits or cut their lifetime of medical coverage after only four years of service? What about corporate golden parachutes?

Schools are not the only organizations that cater to the top.
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08:00 AM on 05/07/2013
Did you ever consider the standardized tests and the standardized teaching methods were designed so students would fail, and therefor we would be calling for the end of public education all together ? We have a bright son who was plugged into the FCAT system here in Florida. When I saw the reading online reading lessons he was required to take, I was appalled. The robotic lesson content is uninteresting, unimaginative, and downright boring. There is absolutely not a shred of intellectual value in any of the material and it's no wonder kids learn to hate reading, if they learn to read at all. On top of that, traditional and classic literature has been ripped from the curriculum. Only after we took control and told him to supplement the online lessons by reading outside literature, did he begin to excel at the end of his junior year. He passed the FCAT last month with flying colors and is graduating with honors in two weeks.

I am convinced that these standardized testing and learning methods are designed for kids to fail at the same time school funds are being funneled to the test makers. Interesting that Jeb Bush led the charge for this educational debacle here and just happens to be filling his pockets because of his personal vested interests.
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09:12 AM on 05/07/2013
Fanned and faved.
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ThinkingAboutThings
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07:48 AM on 05/07/2013
Yup. It's obvious, teachers' pensions are the problem. Two wars, unfunded perscription drug mandates, tax breaks for the rich, over funding a military to fight 20th century wars, billions spent by our Washington politicians on their staffs and public relations campaigns, hundreds of millions for politicians ludicrous retirement and health care packages...Yeah, it's the teachers' pensions. Retract those and all our fincial woes will just melt away.
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boehnerstan
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07:43 AM on 05/07/2013
This should be a national story, instead we get the NRA dog and pony show. These teachers should be revered for the focus on their students and adequately compensated.
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PARepublican
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08:33 AM on 05/07/2013
It is pretty evident by the test scores that the focus is not on the students.
09:16 AM on 05/07/2013
Blame that on priorities in government, not the schools.
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boehnerstan
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12:21 PM on 05/07/2013
please read my comment on this thread about my own experience with standardized testing. 
07:24 AM on 05/07/2013
They will recoup their losses and then some with big fat pensions when they retire at 55.
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boehnerstan
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07:45 AM on 05/07/2013
Why would you demonize these teachers and how do you imagine a pension waiting for them at 55 when they can't get paid today?

Because your'e a friggen dope, that's why. No wonder you hate teachers, I imagine you have been ignoring them your entire worthless life.
08:11 AM on 05/07/2013
They will get the credit for their big fat pensions just for showing up for work.
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PARepublican
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08:33 AM on 05/07/2013
I think cullenthbrave just hates BAD teachers.
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07:53 AM on 05/07/2013
You really don't have a clue.
08:00 AM on 05/07/2013
So I guess the pension system is working just fine in Michigan. I guess it is if you are a teacher but not so much if you are a taxpayer.
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07:09 AM on 05/07/2013
Another new plank in the GOP platform:

teachers are e'vil.