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LesKern
I am me and that's that.
02:48 PM on 06/05/2013
Their "no compromise" OS has been compromised. Windows 8 is an abomination, so anything will help I suppose.
02:54 PM on 06/05/2013
Abomination. Please explain.
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jaredbrain
03:09 PM on 06/05/2013
I will explain- an account created in 2012, with zero friends, that has only ever commented on this one article, is probably not a real account. At least show some initiative.
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J0E1
Don't blame me, I'm not a republicrat.
03:43 PM on 06/05/2013
Abomination. Please explain.
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MrGovtCheese
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02:38 PM on 06/05/2013
I think Microsoft could sweep the market if they didn't charge so much for their software. Many folks would go legit and pay if it didn't cost hundreds of dollars to equip each PC with Windows and Office.
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jgeurian21
03:39 PM on 06/05/2013
I got the Windows 8 upgrade for $40 and they now offer the Home User Program (HUP) for businesses to give its employees the option of buying Office Pro for $10. All in all it cost me $50 to upgrade my PCs to Windows 8 and install Office 2013.
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MrGovtCheese
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08:02 PM on 06/05/2013
It's not 40 any more.
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J0E1
Don't blame me, I'm not a republicrat.
03:46 PM on 06/05/2013
Microsoft only comes out with software every few years and Apple comes out with new software yearly.  Yet people are willing to shell out $30 every single year for Apple OS and complain that Microsoft is charging $100 every 4 years?  LOL. 
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MrGovtCheese
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08:14 PM on 06/05/2013
I guess that explains why 24% of Windows computers run pirated copies and why Microsoft removes 800,000 links per month on the web to pirated MS software.
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HamburgerTime
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02:36 PM on 06/05/2013
Go home, Microsoft. I'm stuck with your OS because I play games on PC. I'm fine with 7.
02:28 PM on 06/05/2013
At the Mall of America, there's a Microsoft Store directly across the hall from the Apple store. It's interesting to compare the two OSes. I fooled around with each for about half an hour recently, and I've gotta say, after playing with Windows 8, iOS felt quaint and outdated. There's a new paradigm on the horizon, and while Microsoft may not have nailed it yet, they're on the right path. I'll still probably get an iPhone, but only for the apps. If it came down to a choice between operating systems, I'd choose Windows 8 in a heartbeat.
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MichaelNNY
02:12 PM on 06/05/2013
Sorry Microsoft. I dont WANT your touchscreen OS. I want my normal windows for my PC, and Android or Apple OS for my phone.
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LesKern
I am me and that's that.
02:50 PM on 06/05/2013
As a Mac fan, I really like the Win8 concept for phones. It's cleaner, and iOS does indeed look dated.
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MichaelNNY
02:52 PM on 06/05/2013
Perhaps.  I havent tried it on a phone yet.  But I definitely dont want a touch screen interface for my non-touchscreen computer!
02:58 PM on 06/05/2013
That seems to be the general thought apple users seem to like windows 8 since its not really windows and windows user absolutly hate it because..its not windows lol
02:08 PM on 06/05/2013
It's funny that windows users always criticize apple users as people who just play on computers , not serious users. And yet when faced with having to actually go into the system and activate the awesome "start" button they are flummoxed and angry like Hulk. Whaa whaa

BTW how's google on ie6 - lovin it?

flame me - let me feel the burn.
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Mike Georgiades
Learn from yesterday, live for today. A.E.
02:07 PM on 06/05/2013
So where can I select Start -> Programs, or Start -> Control Panel, or Start -> Run? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
03:10 PM on 06/05/2013
Win+R or Start, type run, exactly how Windows 7 does it.
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Mike Georgiades
Learn from yesterday, live for today. A.E.
05:11 PM on 06/05/2013
That's one out of 3 :)
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carledgar
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02:03 PM on 06/05/2013
If you have even one porn photo on your computer, that's the one Microsoft will find and put up on your screen, just as your granny goes to check her email - empowered my foot
04:18 AM on 06/07/2013
I wonder how W8.1 decides what folders and pics to use for the pic show the MS droid described above? I agree, it's probably going to cause guys all kinds of problems with GF/wives seeing pics the guy didn't want to be seen. Could be a fun little drama, if you're watching it as an outsider.
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carledgar
Eschew the passive voice in breaking news stories
01:57 PM on 06/05/2013
Not sure what value this has for corporates and for those who just like writing their novels in XP - which I plan to use until I die.

A lot of the stuff he showed seems to have to do with games and entertainment, with little indication as to the value of 8.1 for work.

Also, when I'm heading for the cottage or driving around northern Ontario there ain't no cloud -
03:14 PM on 06/05/2013
your files are synced, therefore you do not need the cloud in northern Ontario.
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J0E1
Don't blame me, I'm not a republicrat.
03:49 PM on 06/05/2013
Did windows PC's stop including hard drives all of a sudden? 
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John Crane
01:57 PM on 06/05/2013
As a primarily business user, I have little use for most of these bells and whistles. I like the simple and readable search results that Google provides. I'm still waiting for articles about the technical changes to the internals, if any.
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jgeurian21
03:43 PM on 06/05/2013
Wow...where have you been? The inside guts changes from Windows 7 to 8 is staggering. Practically nothing was left unchanged. I mean PCWorld, Maximum PC, Technet and a slew of others have provided a ton of material on what changed. MS kept a daily blog with thousands of changes they made.
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Dale Healy
01:52 PM on 06/05/2013
Looked at the video, mostly stuff that doesn't matter except the new split screen improvements. What I really noticed was MS didn't want to go anywhere near the Boot To Desktop and Start button areas. Still have their head in the sand. They should be touting these issues instead of hiding from them. I still have a problem with having a start button with out the start menu. Kind of defeats the advantage of the start button.
01:24 PM on 06/05/2013
Nice improvements.
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Kofender
(speaks in parentheses--but I digress)
01:20 PM on 06/05/2013
Wow, such vitriol in these comments. I think W8 is okay--it's must faster at startup than W7, and my old applications still work without any problems.

The store is a bit of a problem (it's hard to do a search for what you want). On the other hand, the Mah Jong, Minesweeper, and Tap Tiles games (yes, I do use the games when I'm not doing work) are terrific (better than what's available for the Mac--I use both operating systems and now have W8 running on my Macbook Air).

I'm glad to hear the Start button is coming back (every once in a while I catch myself looking for it) but it wasn't my biggest issue.

Still, why such nastiness? W8 works (once you're used to it). So does the Mac OSX. Why take such extreme positions?
03:22 PM on 06/05/2013
I am in the same boat. Most people complain about a Start button being missing, yet they have yet to try Win 8 themselves.

They forget to remember that there are so many alternate ways to get to the 'Start' menu that is a lot fast than dragging your mouse to the bottom left hand corner of the screen.
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Kofender
(speaks in parentheses--but I digress)
03:26 PM on 06/05/2013
I just hit the Windows button on my keyboard to get to the Start screen. Saves a lot of time and effort. The problem I have is when I try to shut down and go to the wrong corner (after 20 years of Windows as well as working on a Mac for 29 years--I had one of the first ones--a lot of things are just ingrained).
03:47 PM on 06/05/2013
I wonder about the much touted startup of Win8, of how much that's really attributable to the OS or really how the device drivers work with the OS to speed things up - the device initialization has always been a big reason why OS starting up so slowly. I purchased a Win7 laptop recently (right before sale of Win8.) The laptop starts really fast, much much faster than a Win7 based laptop that I bought from the same vendor 2 years prior.
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Kofender
(speaks in parentheses--but I digress)
05:28 PM on 06/05/2013
Well, JT, I installed W8 on a brand new machine (which came with W7) and the difference in the startup time was startling. So I think a lot of it really does have to do with W8 (30 seconds for W8 vs 2.5 minutes for W7 on the same computer).
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12:48 PM on 06/05/2013
Just a few years ago they had 96% of the OS market.
Today it's 35%.
The other thing they've done is show a lot of people that they can easily get by without Office.
Since no matter what they do with Windows 8 they will not turn around mobile fast enough they need to roll out Office to Android and iOS Stat.
But it's probably already too late.
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Kmuzu
Rolling dem bones
12:54 PM on 06/05/2013
You bring up an interesting point. I have MS Word but I hardly use it. It is extremely hard to copy and paste into my browser. Most of the time, I just pop into Open Office ..
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Mysteryprincess
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01:16 PM on 06/05/2013
That's a dishonest statistic and you know it. A few years ago, most people only had one computer. Now they have a computer AND a mobile device or two, and often a tablet or gaming console too, all of which have an OS.
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01:24 PM on 06/05/2013
and MS has only 35% of it.
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Kmuzu
Rolling dem bones
12:47 PM on 06/05/2013
I am not a Microsoft fan .. but I like my Win7. It is very functional and easy to use. Does pretty much everything I want from an OS. If MS had just made Win7 more secure - so secure that my father doesn't get a virus and called it Win8 - I would have bought it every day and twice on Sunday. Instead MS puts out something that quite frankly looks like a throwback to the Brady Bunch .. and has a ton of stuff I will never use. I live in Las Vegas, the weather is sunny .. always sunny.
12:56 PM on 06/05/2013
Hide the weather tile then... You can customize the start screen to your interests. Or click on the desktop and go about your work.
03:45 PM on 06/05/2013
Cant make the tiles go away and never pop into the metro since I have a laptop/desktop and have zero use for apps just full programs? Nope cant be done. Even with the changes I can boot to desktop but get sucked back to those damn tiles and scrolling horizontally instead of the vertically. The start button is back with no start menu just shows the charms you used to have to find on the screen. Basically they took a great os removed the functionalty and work horse of it, dummied it down for teen girls and people over 65 who use facebook and ruined it for the life long users who like fast easy ,user friendly os that are not cluttered or social virus infections. As said if they revamped win7 with security, fast boot/shut down with bit more light weight install but allowed good classic ui choice it would have been a hit but they took the millions of beta testers thoughts, which i have been once since xp, and did the opposite and refused to listen to the public. They cant have an all for one os it just doesnt work. Devices are too different and used differently.Computer sales slowed for 2 reasons...computers last alot longer now then they did 8 years ago and the fact everyone basicaly hates windos8 there is no need and those who did want a new machine cant get one without this god awful windows 8 version.
03:51 PM on 06/05/2013
But it takes efforts for you to disable the stuff. The useless tiles by default are the equivalent of the computer vendors loading up the systems with useless software. It takes you time to disable the stuff you don't need. I (and undoubtedly many others) would prefer a relatively empty slate with certain templates I can choose to use rather than tens of tiles already set up that I have to spend time to get rid of.