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spytheweb 06:57 PM on 06/18/2013
"The bipartisan immigration reform bill currently under consideration in the Senate would shrink the deficit by $197 billion over the next decade and $700 billion during the 10 years that followed, the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office estimated in a report released Tuesday."
"But the non-partisan agency said it  Read More...
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Gurus4You
Don't be Republican or Democrat, be Objective!
09:29 AM on 06/19/2013
Pure fantasy and wishful thinking!

The $262 billion in additional spending may be reasonable, but where does the $459 billion in additional revenue come from? The article failed to cite this but it's assumed from increased taxes. How can the CBO prediction increased spending or revenue when they don't know how many illegals will be entitled to federal benefits? Most would agree most illegals are low or no skilled workers. So they'll definitely get benefits but they won't be paying federal/state income taxes because of the tax structure and how it helps those making low wages. There may be increased socials security taxes, but this money is dedicated to social security: The fact this money is and would be used to offset the deficit is just part of the budget game playing politicians do...and we're all against this right?
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resquenazi
09:27 AM on 06/19/2013
what is taking in to account is that they will send half of the wages back home and they will declare 10 dependent and pay no taxes so the net result is o ,and they will bring the old parents that cant work and you and me will pay for all the goodies from the goverment
09:14 AM on 06/19/2013
I came here thinking since this is the Huff Post that I would see tons of support for this bill in the comments section. I see this isnt the case.

Anyone else feel like our elected leaders no longer represent us, but rather dictate to us what we are going to pay for because they know more than we do? I am not an economist, but frankly I dont buy that letting another 30 million into our country is going to cut costs. The wear and tear on the roads and bridges alone is going to cost tax payers. Most of the illegals here cant speak English so I need help understanding how exactly they are going to get a job that allows them to support themselves and their families without tax payers kicking in. I was in my old neighborhood the other night, and the sign on the school that let's parents know whats going on was in Spanish. My first thought was what about the non Spanish speaking parents in this school? Can they read that? But then it hit me-there probably arent any.
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Gurus4You
Don't be Republican or Democrat, be Objective!
09:30 AM on 06/19/2013
our politicians tell us how to live but they make sure that they're immune from the affects of the laws they pass
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Reedo1981
That's a helluva price to pay for bein' stylish
09:05 AM on 06/19/2013
I suppose when you exclude medicaid costs, food stamps and welfare cash assistance anything is possible
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Clay Cullum
What It Be Like
08:58 AM on 06/19/2013
With all these savings from immigration and the huge savings to come with government healthcare, that budget should be balanced real soon (wink, wink).
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Sally Dogood
Don't fear. Underdog is here.
10:51 AM on 06/19/2013
The deficit has been cut in half.
ThatsTheTheWayItIs
religion, ideology, partisanship are delusional
08:51 AM on 06/19/2013
It will save $19.7B per year, less than 1% of our current deficit. The projections after ten years are pure speculation. Insignificant and meaningless.
Seriously - you're trying to sell immigration based on deficit reduction, not morality? You're just playing the conservatives game. Play your own game, that's how to win.
08:50 AM on 06/19/2013
Nothing the government does saves money, just increases costs.
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TheAvengers
Mrs. Peel, we're needed.
08:35 AM on 06/19/2013
Help built new prisons for the many felons we let in
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Lesperado
liberal... born that way...
08:44 AM on 06/19/2013
Contrary to conservative beliefs... the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals.

The average cost of housing one criminal for one year is over $30,000. Yeah... putting them in prison is really going to save us a ton of money.
10:53 AM on 06/19/2013
Lol go and look at the FBI most wanted in any western state.
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Earl King
I intend to live forever, or die trying
08:33 AM on 06/19/2013
If the new immigrants are the highly educated that US Corporations are demanding be let in then I can see the GAO report as being factual. If the new immigrants are the poorly educated poorly paid that will use more Govt. subsidized health care, food stamps etc. they are wrong.
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Lesperado
liberal... born that way...
08:45 AM on 06/19/2013
Must know something you don't.
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typhoon812
Lay'em down and smack'em yak'em
08:30 AM on 06/19/2013
We all know the CBO is never wrong
08:27 AM on 06/19/2013
Did the CBO's projection include the democrat party's assumption that all of these new voters will vote to expand the welfare state and government spending?
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Lesperado
liberal... born that way...
08:45 AM on 06/19/2013
YEA!!
09:28 AM on 06/19/2013
liberal shill
LocalCommunist
NOT ACTUALLY A COMMUNIST.
10:13 AM on 06/19/2013
Yeah that's our plan. We're all about big government so we can take over the lives of hard-working-freedom-loving Americans! Praise Obama!
08:24 AM on 06/19/2013
Is that the same CBO which said just a year ago that the 2013 deficit would only be $600B, when we're now on track for another $1Trillion deficit?
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Lesperado
liberal... born that way...
08:45 AM on 06/19/2013
Link?
09:24 AM on 06/19/2013
Got a link proving it's not correct???????? We thought not.....
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Robert Terry
11:40 AM on 06/19/2013
Yes and the same one who said that obamacare would cost $900billion and it is now saying it will cost $2trillion. They have a problem with math I think.
03:02 PM on 06/19/2013
They score things over a short period of time, before all of the spending kicks in.
08:15 AM on 06/19/2013
So in twenty years we will find out that the immigration bill actually cost the taxpayers over a trillion dollars. By that time all of these politicians will be out of office and the CBO employees will have retired. No one will be held accountable.
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Chipher
prosaic quotidian
08:02 AM on 06/19/2013
And the Warren Commission said Oswald acted alone. Ha,ha,ha. Republicans are getting desperate. Their patronizing jobs program for aliens and Chamber of Globalists ran afoul of the Tea Party when they added 13,500 new DHS czars with a new 'Internal Investigation' Gestapo, and a Mandatory National Biometric Database. They'll pass it anyway, because they have to. They have to because the troops are coming home and the economy is headed into the ditch.
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07:55 AM on 06/19/2013
The CBO report estimated that the bill, if passed, would produced a positive econcomic impact by leading to a net increase of 10.4 million people living in the United States by 2023. However, we could acheive the same results by upping legal immigration quotas while at the same time attracting highly educated or highly skilled immigrants instead of low-skilled, poorly eductated immigrants. At the same time, we have to consider if adding 10.4 million extra people to a population already expected to hit 400 million by 2050 is a good idea. We are already overwhelming natural resources.
08:26 AM on 06/19/2013
What I don't understand is how granting amnesty to people already here will increase our population?? We already count them in the census.
01:41 PM on 06/19/2013
The bill anticipates increasing legal immigration by about 20 million people over the next 20 years over and above our current generous levels of legal immigration. And further, according to the CBO, the bill will only reduce illegal immigration by 25% so at some point down the road there are going to be a whole fresh batch of those too.

Of course, growing the population grows the GDP. For every 10k additional people you need a new McDonalds and for every 50K people you need a new Walmart. This is just "junk growth" the economy get bigger but not really better. A bigger pie gets divided by more people so people don't necessarily get a bigger slice. And there is a lot of reason to believe that all these new unskilled people will exacerbate our problems with income distribution and wealth inequality.