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lurkinman
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10:09 AM on 07/22/2013
Maybe if their initial marketing efforts weren't so focused on dancing kids making the things click open and closed.
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mchance27
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11:37 AM on 07/22/2013
What do you mean? Commercials with dancing kids worked so well for Apple. Why not for Microsoft? ;)
10:04 AM on 07/22/2013
I've had my eye on the Surface RT debating to get one or not. What are the Pro's and what are the Con's? Where can I get one for the best price? Should I wait until Microsoft reacts to this latest news?
10:29 AM on 07/22/2013
You won't be able to buy a Surface RT because Microsoft can't make them fast enough to keep up with demand. There is at least a two year waiting list to get one.
10:47 AM on 07/22/2013
The RT is not able to download programs, it not pc type. It is a very low grade tablet, quick. It was a set up, and I think a lot of people were fooled thinking this was similar to a laptop. I talked to a rep, he said I had to get the pro, it was more of the pc. They deserve what happened, I do not use mine, as I wanted to have the programs I have on my laptop, I can not even used Microsoft programs transferred from my laptop. Extremely disappointed.
12:28 PM on 07/22/2013
There is the ability to purchase apps like the other tablets. You get windows, office, excel, access, power point and many of the other things a regular laptop does. It is also the only tablet that has USB access. Then of course it is easily carried in a purse or case. Everyone needs to assess what their own personal needs are, then find out what each tablet can do because they do vary, and decide which one best does to meet those needs. For me, if money was a little more fluid, I would purchase the Surface. For some, the laptops will still be the best choices.
ProgressMakesSense
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09:38 AM on 07/22/2013
Here's my take on where MSFT fell down. I use a regular ole PC 99 percent of the time. I don't have any desire to own an 8-inch screen device just so I can look cool at Starbucks or whatever. When I leave the house, I feel no need to let Gidget know I just had an EPIC ice cream cone.

I had to upgrade a few years back just prior to Windows 7. I wanted to wait, but I had no choice. So, the time came around again for me to upgrade. I decided to wait for Windows 8. I was anxious to upgrade, both hardware and software. However, Windows 8 was created for portable devices at the expense of desktops. Completely NOT what I wanted. So I bought nothing.

I think they slapped the faces of their core customers. People who program for a living; people who write for a living; people whose PCs are not phones, Walkmans, or Twitter devices. It's fine for MSFT to enter those markets, but don't forget your core customers -- like me!
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Cloth Coat Occupier
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10:27 AM on 07/22/2013
Gidget? C'mon! Won't you even post some racy pics of your Palm Springs Weekend?
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JFKing106
11:27 AM on 07/22/2013
Bitter old baby boomers...
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VincentTPackhorse
From a once great mind
10:52 AM on 07/22/2013
Thank you for your unwitting social media moment of sharing. By the way, what are you having for dinner and does your laxative meet your strict requirements?

(Just a jocular barb, if you don't mind.)
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09:28 AM on 07/22/2013
Until they get apps, RT will be a failure. How about no native Pandora app? WTH is with that? And Twitter... it took over 6 months to offer a decent Twitter app. The other BIG deal was printing and lack of print drivers. There is a work around but who wants to deal with that? And then the crummy native email app when they could have simply included Outlook (which MS will be including with the next software update - one year late!). Did they learn nothing from Blackberry?
10:09 AM on 07/22/2013
So what's on this thing? It doesn't sound as useful as it could be.
12:38 PM on 07/22/2013
Go take a look. They are not as bad as these guys want to make them sound. I in fact think they are nice. It all depends on ones needs. They can be used touch screen or you can get a small keyboard. You can do a lot with them. I was checking them out. I liked the familiar set up and uses of windows and such. I also liked the USB access, instead of having to email things to myself. It's going to simply be about what one needs and wants. Don't just accept the comments the others are making. Check it out along with the other tablets and ask questions.
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08:37 PM on 07/22/2013
You are correct.  It could be so much better and will be with the next software update (8.1).  It does have Word, Excel and PPT but they left out Outlook.  More ons!!
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09:16 AM on 07/22/2013
I have one... it sits in a drawer. After a year, it still has no native Pandora app. Twitter took almost 9 months. I just gave up on it. Apps are killing RT. Win 8 is a different story though. Its going to take a while but I believe it will make it.
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JFKing106
11:28 AM on 07/22/2013
Surface hasn't been out a year...
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08:35 PM on 07/22/2013
Ok, bought it last October when it first came out.  It was announced early last summer.  Regardless, MS's stupidity ruined a well designed tablet.
09:09 AM on 07/22/2013
The waddling 700-kb. sloth… Bomber has started a death spiral who’s effect will be closure by 2016…. POOF - All gone…
ProgressMakesSense
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09:31 AM on 07/22/2013
Let me guess, you don't know anything about corporate server rooms and corporate database software...
10:16 AM on 07/22/2013
Naa, that 40 years I spent in technology watching Microshaft blow up users by the millions was wasted time…
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08:56 AM on 07/22/2013
I could do a lot of good in this world if I had $900 million in the bank....
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ohiotechie
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08:55 AM on 07/22/2013
Personally I'm not a big fan of Windows 8 and from what I heard the Surface Pro had a really short battery life - around 2 hours - which seriously defeats one of the major reasons people like tablets. if I want a Windows device that only has a 2 hour battery life why not just use my laptop?

MSFT has done a great job over the years in leveraging the Windows foothold they have on the desktop to maintain their dominance but their historic advantage no longer applies to this new market - this is why they are struggling. I wouldn't count them out just yet though - they've got a mountain of money and if they want to be in a market they've got the resources to get there.
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09:17 AM on 07/22/2013
Wrong. The battery life on the Surface Pro is just over 5 hours which is not bad. My daughter had one and really likes it.
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ohiotechie
Better dead than red...
09:32 AM on 07/22/2013
I suppose everyone gets different battery life based on usage but that's still way, way less than you can expect from an iPad. I'm not quoting from experience but a quick google search turned up dozens and dozens of links with people complaining about this:

http://www.crn.com/news/mobility/240157711/partners-surface-pros-4-hour-battery-life-is-a-deal-breaker.htm

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2415166,00.asp

If it works for what she wants then that's all that matters but these issues will make some buyers balk.
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09:17 AM on 07/22/2013
"has" one....
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08:48 AM on 07/22/2013
The Pro is a great enterprise device, you really can't measure that sector's enthusiasm for the device after only 6 months. Enterprise IT don't jump on new devices right away, we take more time to roll things out. I can say that in that environment, the iPad is a poor fit and the Surface is seamless. I have older execs who could never use the iPads effectively, they love their Surface tabs.
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09:20 AM on 07/22/2013
I agree. The only negatives is its a bit thicker than desired and an 8-10 hour battery would be nice (its about 5.5 hours as is). The screen is beautiful and although I would like it to be a little thinner, it is still very compact and fast.
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WasteNJ
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09:35 AM on 07/22/2013
Agree, it's very quick. I personally like the heft of it. Some of the other Win8 tab clones are thinner and lighter though.
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Cybdiver
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08:44 AM on 07/22/2013
Give them to schools! Millions of kids can't afford a laptop. Earth to Steve Balmer Hellooooo!!!
Is there anyone that can reach out to Steve and tell him to unload these things to school kids before they become obsolete?
So now a perfectly good laptop will sit and collect dust and become land fill? Bad marketing could become good publicity.
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09:22 AM on 07/22/2013
No no no... they lowered the price. The write off was for loses associated with the inventory carrying cost and below profit price. I am sure they will give them away before dumping them if ever came down to that.
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Cybdiver
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09:34 AM on 07/22/2013
I have not seen any price reductions and the article said nothing about that. Have you got info?
08:44 AM on 07/22/2013
All they had to do was put it at a much lower price point than an ipad but they refused to do that and now I have an ipad instead of a surface, which I really wanted.
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WasteNJ
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08:49 AM on 07/22/2013
Acer, and Asus among others also make a Win8 tablet at a lower price point.
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09:24 AM on 07/22/2013
I agree but I have a feeling the manufacturing costs are higher than Apple. I give them credit for taking a risk but they failed on the app side. Apple and Android crushes the RT when it comes to apps.
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08:39 AM on 07/22/2013
I use mostly all the hardware that is out now within my job, and the Surface is a gem. The RT model is their lower end version, the Pro is the one you want. The device is only 6 months old, but my enterprise loves it, and hates the iPads we deployed to them over two years ago. Basically, the iPads have collected dust. Simply put, a Win 8 tablet lets them do everything they already do on their desktops or laptops, the integration is seamless. Anybody who has had to manage iPads within an enterprise and shoe-horn them into different roles knows how much of a pain it is.
08:21 AM on 07/22/2013
Here is the bottom line Steve Ballmer is a terrible CEO, Microsoft has been made worse since he took over. I am a Lead Microsoft .NET Engineer so Microsoft doing bad is a bad thing for me. This needs to change or people are going to continue to look at 3rd party solutions.

Microsoft should stick to being primarily a software company and really work on making Windows 8 better. If massive amounts of people are complaining about the lack of start menu and thrashing you brand new OS, then give them Windows 7 mode and call it a day. I will never use Windows 8 because of that and I get it for free.
lurkinman
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08:35 AM on 07/22/2013
Steve Ballmer is the Ronald McDonald of the tech industry.
08:40 AM on 07/22/2013
True and he needs to go, a terrible CEO is more than capable of taking down a large company like Microsoft.  Look what happened in RIM
08:52 AM on 07/22/2013
No kidding. It only took me a few minutes to know I despise Windows 8. I needed new computers for my office,and I decided to order a custom made Windows 7 machine instead, and I am about to order an overpriced, but Windows 7, laptop. If you don't make a product people want, they are going to find ways not to buy it.
lurkinman
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09:26 AM on 07/22/2013
I bought my most recent laptop about 10 days before W8 came out. Guess why?
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RattleCat
06:50 AM on 07/22/2013
HP, Dell, Lenovo, RIM - all drastically cut the pricing on their tablets.  It didn't do anything.  I really don't see how Microsoft could possibly believe the result would be any different for them.  I suspect this isn't a full write-off, and we'll either see these things pop up on the liquidation sites, or in an effort to preserve brand, Microsoft will take another write-off in Q4 (calendar) and simply landfill them.