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msgirlintn 05:59 PM on 07/20/2013
In 2004,  the NYT became aware that under an executive order from President Bush the National Security Agency had been wiretapping people in the U.S. without a warrant to search for evidence of terrorist activity.
Once it became overwhelmingly clear that the government had lied to keep the story from the public the story ran.  Read More...
Even Bush's AG Ashcroft wouldn't sign off on the program on an executive order.  But Congress approved the warrantless wiretapping and even made the approval retroactive to Bush's executive order.
Think the member of Congress for your district didn't vote for this, think again.  Check their voting record.  It has always passed with strong bipartisan support.
03:39 PM on 07/21/2013
The irony of Mr Snowden fleeing to Russia is too muc.
Anyone want to bet the Russians have recorded every word, every email, every fart Snowden has made since he landed on their territory.
Snowden is going to go down in history as one of the biggest fools/patsy's in history.
But not to worry. He is going to have plenty of time to ponder the irony from behind the walls of Super Max after the Russians get tired of his schtick.
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05:03 PM on 07/21/2013
He was publicly THANKED, as a matter of Congressional record in the house judiciary oversight hearings by several Congresspersons.
THANKED for getting this investigation STARTED.
He is a Hero of the American People and needs to be both pardoned and protected.
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garynofishing
There's a RAT infestation on Wall Street
05:51 PM on 07/21/2013
I'm sure that is the outcome you would like to see, but I doubt that will ever take place.
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03:26 PM on 07/21/2013
Snowden’s disclosures confirm the NSA's image of an agency and a director so obsessed with technological prowess that they have sacrificed privacy rights, along with Constitutional rights. The NSA is completely driven to take it all, whenever possible. The continuation of Obama's NSA policies will soon result in the complete evisceration of our civil liberties. The Constitution is being gutted by the Executive Branch and the NSA.
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ThisIsNotMyAmerica
Around The World and Then Some
03:12 PM on 07/21/2013
When 10 billion people are working for the secret police it becomes hard to police the police. This is when Fascism appears, when the state can't control the people in the ways that it wants.

Mr Snowden is a hero, as are Bradley. Manning, Julian Assange and Thomas Drake. Mr. Drake attempted to go through the proper channels. For his efforts he was prosecuted under the espionage act. These men are guilty of revealing serious crimes on the part of the U.S and senior members of U.S. political and military establishment. Those are the secrets our government is anxious to protect.

Those in government who defend these actions should be removed and prosecuted. Our enemies need no aiding and abetting as as long as we slowly dismantle the very principles upon which this nation was founded.
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03:11 PM on 07/21/2013
The other big obvious lie is that this is all done to prevent terrorism.

It is the worst industrial espionage by the US on others, intimidating the press, intimating future whistle-blowers and intimidation of its Citizens to freely communicate among each other.

Nothing but a per-emptive strike against freedom.
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03:27 PM on 07/21/2013
This is a take down of liberty and democracy by Obama and the NSA.
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03:05 PM on 07/21/2013
Can you hear me now ?
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Around The World and Then Some
03:04 PM on 07/21/2013
Math Behind Leak Crackdown: 153 Cases, 4 Years, 0 Indictments http://nyti.ms/1bAJdLk
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Worldyplace
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03:04 PM on 07/21/2013
The land of the brave and free?

The nation with NASA once reached for the stars, bringing the best out of what America had to offer, connecting people in the entire world.

Now and how tragic that from all this technology fallout instead of using it for the betterment of the world, it is increasingly used by agencies like the NSA and by a kleptocartic elite like Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan to front-trade all markets and reach for your pockets and steal you blind by stealing your privacy, all metadata for future extortion and potential criminalization, undermining democracy, free will and peace.

This will bring no luck.
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03:30 PM on 07/21/2013
It is hard for me to admit this, being a liberal and a guy who has voted for Obama twice, but we have a coup by Obama, and the NSA. Now, the question is: Do we allow this to stand? Democracy and liberty are about to be snuffed out by this Administration.
03:36 PM on 07/21/2013
But the bots swear that it's ok now since Obama is president. Unfortunately, I guess you'll have to wait until a Republican president takes power for them to suddenly realize that it is a direct threat to our democracy to enable the government to collect our communications (phone calls, emails, metadata) and store them forever. And they ARE collecting phone calls and email contents. It's sad and ridiculous that it will take waiting for a Republican president for these people to suddenly remember they have "principles", but it seems to be true.
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ThisIsNotMyAmerica
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03:03 PM on 07/21/2013
Move over NSA, here comes the Obamacare Big Brother database

Would you trust thousands of low-level Federal bureaucrats and contractors with one-touch access to your private financial and medical information? Under Obamacare you won’t have any choice.

As the Obamacare train-wreck begins to gather steam, there is increasing concern in Congress over something called the Federal Data Services Hub. The Data Hub is a comprehensive database of personal information being established by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to implement the federally facilitated health insurance exchanges.

The purpose of the Data Hub, according to a June 2013 Government Accountability Office (GAO) report, is to provide “electronic, near real-time access to federal data” and “access to state and third party data sources needed to verify consumer-eligibility information.” --------------snipped-----
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susanfabian
02:55 PM on 07/21/2013
Their budget must be huge to listen to and read ever phone call, every email, every text.
I think our Founding Father's would not approve.
Ben Franklin said "Those who would give up essential liberty for a temporary sense of safety, deserve neither liberty or safety".
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02:46 PM on 07/21/2013
McClatchy: Mood shifting, Congress may move to limit NSA spying

WASHINGTON — Congress is growing increasingly wary of controversial National Security Agency domestic surveillance programs, a concern likely to erupt during legislative debate _ and perhaps prod legislative action _ as early as next week.

Skepticism has been slowly building since last month’s disclosures that the super-secret NSA conducted programs that collected Americans’ telephone data. Dozens of lawmakers are introducing measures to make those programs less secret, and there’s talk of denying funding and refusing to continue authority for the snooping.

The anxiety is a sharp contrast to June’s wait-and-see attitude after Edward Snowden, a government contract worker, leaked highly classified data to the media.
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02:40 PM on 07/21/2013
We are not that interested. We are all Trayvon (or George?) now. Listen as much as you want. We are busy.
02:34 PM on 07/21/2013
listening, emails, PHOTOS, videos...
yeah American, just relax
bama nd holder are watching your every move jut for your safety
and you let them....................fools
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02:20 PM on 07/21/2013
In addition to paying for the world's most expensive military, you also pay an additional $120 billion to a defense contractor for fake protection.
Booz Allen Hamilton CEO's make a bonus off of your fear.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

You are being ripped off, but that won't stop many of you from apologizing and justifying the behavior and waste of your government's acquiescence to war profiteers...
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Ian56789
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02:02 PM on 07/21/2013
Everything You Wanted to Know about NSA Spying … But Were Afraid to Ask
Spying: The Big Picture

If you’ve been too busy to keep up with the spying scandal, here’s an overview:
The government is spying on virtually everything we do
The government’s mass spying doesn’t keep us safe
NSA spying did not prevent a terror attack on Wall Street
There is no meaningful oversight of the spying programs by either Congress or the courts
We can keep everyone safe without violating the Constitution … more cheaply and efficiently than the current system
The top counter-terrorism Czar under Clinton and Bush says that revealing NSA spying programs does not harm national security
Whistleblowers on illegal spying have no “legal” way to get the information out
A high-level intelligence source says “we hack everyone everywhere”
Some people make a lot of money off of mass spying
Spying started before 9/11 … and may have stemmed from an emergency program only meant to be activated in the case of a nuclear war
Governments and big corporations are doing everything they can to destroy anonymity
Surveillance can be used to frame you if someone in government happens to take a dislike to you
An NSA whistleblower says that the NSA is spying on – and blackmailing – top government officials and military officers (and see this)

Read more at :-
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/07/everything-you-wanted-to-know-about-spying-but-were-afraid-to-ask.html
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03:32 PM on 07/21/2013
It has happened, and the coup has been successful. We must not allow this to stand. Obama has gutted the Constitution, and he has the audacity to pretend that nothing is wrong, and that he will continue to spy on all of America. Shame on Obama.
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06:09 PM on 07/21/2013
agreed. it's time to take back the country
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Ian56789
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02:00 PM on 07/21/2013
Why Doesn’t the Government Use Its Mass Surveillance to Bust the Big Criminals … the Banksters?

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/07/why-doesnt-the-government-use-its-mass-surveillance-to-bust-bank-crimes.html
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07:35 PM on 07/21/2013
who do you think runs the government?
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12:30 AM on 07/22/2013
People with a great deal of money, who buy elections and the government. 
People who hide their true wealth and power in trust funds so that they do not get taxed on it. 
People who have set up Foundations to influence politics and public opinion. 
People who almost never appear in the mainstream news.
At the top of the pyramid are the Rothschild family (principally Evelyn) and the Rockefeller family (principally David).  Both own large stakes in the Federal Reserve private bank.