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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Freedom and Peace
War is a bankruptcy of policy
07:37 AM on 07/30/2013
Funny how these Neocons, like Christie, will back Hillary against Rand in 2016. These Neocons true colors as former trotskyites will come to the forefront. Hopefully we can get rid of them back to the Democrat Party where they belong.
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08:10 AM on 07/30/2013
That is a backwards statement. Hillary is quite hawkish, but overall the libertarians have more in common with the far left on defense then the Republicans. Anti-War has been historically a liberal rallying cry.
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Freedom and Peace
War is a bankruptcy of policy
08:31 AM on 07/30/2013
So antiwar liberals should vote for Rand over Hillary. Look at your history. WWI, WWII, Vietnam War and the Korean War were all started by Democrats. Republicans were elected to end these wars but didn't do a very good job of it.
08:56 AM on 07/30/2013
Not Liberals as we understand them today. Classic Liberals yes, modern Liberals...no. The Classic Liberals had more in common with the Old-Right. The Democratic Party is virtually just as hawkish, as long as the President is a Democrat.
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Fireslayer
07:35 AM on 07/30/2013
Maybe these two can fracture their party into three pieces: One that represents the old guard focused on electability and obtaining power, another full of Teapublicans and libertarian notions and another representing the sort of true evil we saw in the last Bush administration.

In any event it is a schizophrenic party that will split between the snake handlers of the religious(sic) right (sic) and the people who want to stealth in an ultra-right wing agenda. on the military-industrial side.
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rbud
Neither left nor right, just rational
07:15 AM on 07/30/2013
"... Christie's position hurts GOP chances in national elections ..."

That's always what it's about for today's GOP/TP. It's never about our country, or our people, it's always about the Party, and that attitude is despicable. These are greedy, self-serving politicians seeking power through the Party. They are not patriots, not statesmen, not servants of our people in any way.

The country and the GOP will be far better off when all of these GOP/TP people are gone.
09:02 AM on 07/30/2013
"These are greedy, self-serving politicians seeking power through the Party. They are not patriots, not statesmen, not servants of our people in any way."

Really? Even if you don't agree with Paul on most things-- I'm certain most Americans were happy he filibustered Brennan's appointment because of his support of the President's anti-civil liberties stance on drones. That seems to me to be a service not just the Kentuckians, but all freedom-loving Americans.
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rbud
Neither left nor right, just rational
09:20 AM on 07/30/2013
Political stunts for showboating carry no weight with people of intelligent means. Political, attention-grabbing stunt for self-service, nothing more.
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JOHNMEDLIN
sharp left ahead
09:12 AM on 07/30/2013
It's kinda funny that a republican would claim Christie hurts their party when he keeps winning by huge percentages. He is the most popular R governor today. The people are on his side. He rules a democrat state. Seems to me they should be listening to Christie. Not the other way around.
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rbud
Neither left nor right, just rational
09:21 AM on 07/30/2013
Good point. But who's listening?
07:14 AM on 07/30/2013
This is an early knife fight of current contenders for 2016.
Doing it now in the barnyard, so that it can be forgotten except for a "last man standing" later.

You are supposed to forget how much they disliked each other in a year or two.
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dickdata
08:21 AM on 07/30/2013
A contest to see who will lose the NEXT Presidential election.
08:30 AM on 07/30/2013
Yes. Probably.However, its the way to create a lone contender, or a standout to prop up. Whoever does it gets press-anointed for awhile.
The media will work hard to make the last candidate standing appear to be a strong & legitimate contender in order to pretend its a horse race.
09:06 AM on 07/30/2013
Rand Paul isn't his father, but I think he would be reintroduce Americans to many of the freedoms we have lost.

I think Rand Paul doesn't ramble as much as his dad does, and his arguments would be more comprehensible to the typical voter for that reason. But I love to see a debate when somebody bashes Statists with the principles of freedom. That would be a good show (Paul v Christie)
hainescityguys
My micro bio..? Just tryin' to get by
06:56 AM on 07/30/2013
Senator Rand Paul's ($-R) KY comment about "give me give me give me" is quite gauling....

Like Most ReFrauds; he all against aid...UNTIL something happens to his state......

Just ANOTHER two-faced, back-stabbing ReFraudican Clown....(yawn)
07:16 AM on 07/30/2013
"They're precisely the same people who are unwilling to cut the spending, and their `Gimme, gimme, gimme – give me all my Sandy money now.'" Paul said, referring to federal funding after the hurricane last year. "Those are the people who are bankrupting the government and not letting enough money be left over for national defense."
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Why would he juxtapose this against military spending?
It sounds to me like he had to scramble to find a reason to urinate on people who need help after Sandy!
09:11 AM on 07/30/2013
Can I ask an obvious question? If you are a state, whose geographical location puts you at risk for certain occurrences, why in the world do you not prepare and save for yourselves?

If I was the governor of say Kansas, I would make sure my state prepares itself, readiness wise and fiscally for tornadoes! I don't understand why this is so hard to understand.
07:34 AM on 07/30/2013
... But that is the definition of any GOP/GOTP politician, aka hypocrite.
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05:57 AM on 07/30/2013
Rand Paul's argument is somewhat unrealistic - "I don't mind spying on terrorists," he said. "I just don't like spying on all Americans.". In the traditional spirit of things it is a sound argument. But world is grown. If Americans (American Passport holders) can become terrorist (even if it may be one or two instances) then the argument put forward by Rand Paul holds no water. Rand Paul has to grow up and move towards guidelines and measures that would prevent further need to compromise privacy.
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Freedom and Peace
War is a bankruptcy of policy
07:05 AM on 07/30/2013
Read the 4th Amendment of the Constitutiom so that you MAY be enlightened.
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rbud
Neither left nor right, just rational
07:19 AM on 07/30/2013
The Constitution does NOT protect foreigners generally, and certainly not terrorists and enemies. It protects Americans only. People in other countries do not have a right to privacy in USA. Taking note of foreign contacts and contacts with known terrorists is not only a legal activity, it is a necessary activity to protect Americans.

Whatever ridiculous thing makes you think the 4th amendment protects anyone from surveillance of foreign communications? Perhaps you should read it and become enlightened.
07:35 AM on 07/30/2013
.. But that would be progress, something the GOP finds abhorrent.
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11:51 AM on 07/30/2013
Ha Ha Ha !!!
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evefontenot
Southern Girl with a Northern Attitude
04:20 AM on 07/30/2013
Watching these republicans is like watching my brother's 3 year old twin boys. They bicker over everything screaming "NO!" at the top of their lungs. One only pauses long enough to let the other scream "NO!" so that he can scream "NO!" back.

They accomplish about as much too.
07:36 AM on 07/30/2013
That is when you long to take a pacifier, put it in their mouths and duck-tape it on.
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dickdata
08:28 AM on 07/30/2013
I believe that that's "duct" tape...
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George Dayton
1st Supply Battalion
04:07 AM on 07/30/2013
awww theres not enough money left for national defence says Rand Paul...why not cancel that blank check that was giving to Halliburton???
07:18 AM on 07/30/2013
Indeed.

Except that Halliburton is organized. "People" hurt by Sandy are faceless by & large and have no bank of attorneys, or deep pockets.
07:37 AM on 07/30/2013
... And why not cancel your paychecks (Congress), because you have done nothing to deserve them yet.
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booker52
avid reader
03:52 AM on 07/30/2013
I was watching the last word last night, tax wise NJ gets back for every dollar it sends to the federal government it gets back .77 while the welfare state Kentucky receives backs $1.57 seem Rand Paul ought to shut up
01:05 PM on 07/30/2013
Yes he should.
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BlueKoi
You can’t teach an old dogma new tricks.
03:43 AM on 07/30/2013
Man is the only Patriot.

He sets himself apart in his own country, under his own flag, and sneers at the other nations, and keeps multitudinous uniformed assassins on hand at heavy expense to grab slices of other people's countries, and keep them from grabbing slices of his.

And in the intervals between campaigns he washes the blood of his hands and works for "the universal brotherhood of man"- with his mouth.

~ Mark Twain
01:12 PM on 07/30/2013
My father was a Patriot he bled for this country, Rand is the spoiled child of a millionaire who never had to work hard for anything in his life. The word Patriot has been so cheapened and overused by the right it's become a meaningless label for a bunch of rebels without much of a cause.
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mommn
Politics: Money out & More women in
03:06 AM on 07/30/2013
Rand Paul with the "Gimme Gimme" comment showed his total idiocy. His state of KY should be called the "Gimme State" compared to NJ. Like other red states, they are the ones costing the rest of us. If they would key on good education and investing in their own state instead of keeping their people ignorant and poor, we could quit footing the bill for them. High teen pregnancies, low education, outrageous numbers of poor... Why should we have to pay for their backwards thinking. Look what MN did years ago for guidance, Rand... INVEST in your state and your people. Invest in education. Now it's one of the leading states in the country in income, employment, medicine etc etc etc. Be smart, for a change and do what works.
07:39 AM on 07/30/2013
They like their people poor and ignorant. That's how they get into office.
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dokbob
My micro-bio is empty.
02:23 AM on 07/30/2013
The petulant Mr Paul best be careful or he will be squashed.
01:52 AM on 07/30/2013
Randy doesn't mind spying on terrorists, just "all Americans." It would be a shame for decent, hard-working marijuana growers down in Kentucky to accidently get caught up in a side issue . . .
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apogee2perogee
Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself.
01:50 AM on 07/30/2013
"I didn't start this one and I don't plan on starting things by criticizing other Republicans," he said. "But if they want to make me the target, they will get it back in spades."

Oh, there's real leadership for you. The leadership exhibited by teenagers.
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apogee2perogee
Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself.
01:50 AM on 07/30/2013
....teenagers posing as tough guys, that is....
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12:45 AM on 07/30/2013
maybe the two could nude mud wrestle on pay per view. they would be more useful to the USA if they did…money for charity.