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12:56 PM on 08/18/2013
Yeah but commies are atheists and they've kill far more people than religion ever has. People like to kill each other. They pick a convenient excuse and do it whenever possible.
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01:38 PM on 08/18/2013
The communist system is atheist; individual communists may or may not be atheists.

Tyranny kills people, religious and political divisions kill people, political philosophies can wind up killing people, but there is no evidence that atheism, in and of itself, results in deaths.
04:26 PM on 08/18/2013
You never heard of the spanish inquisition?

The Native American holocaust (they were 'heathens' according to the christian invaders)

etc etc...

Most wars are declared in the name of religion (911 attack and the following Bush rebutal to name more recent events).
05:23 PM on 08/18/2013
Yes I have. And the numbers killed were rounding errors compared to Stalin and Mao.
12:31 PM on 08/18/2013
I think the great thing about the truth of the Gospel is that it takes fisherman like Peter and turns them into world changers and brilliant scholars like Ravi Zacharias who leaves the most brilliant humbled.

The Bible is for inteligent people who can never phathom the depths of God and the lowliest of men who wouldn't know such depths even exist.
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02:21 PM on 08/18/2013
There have always been great and intelligent religious leaders. There's just no evidense they believed in it themselves. The study does not speak to the occasional intelligent believer, in any case. It's based on numbers.
08:19 PM on 08/18/2013
You mean intelligent people who can fathom the correct spelling of simple words? Or just regular people who understand the spell check function?
09:06 PM on 08/18/2013
There is no spell check in these comment boxes.  We all make mistakes.  You can avoid all you want, but diversion won't help you consider Jesus.
12:25 PM on 08/18/2013
In core of all real Culture there is always religion, always. Every culture who lost that faith will degrade just and civilization and later vanish.

That's the reason why i think that the last century of Western Culture has already started. And it was those bright men of Enlightenment who started this fall down. Since 1920's Cultural Marxism has given a push to that trend. Now in 2010's were are living in a real Age Of Decadence. Perversion has come almost institutional was of thinking and acting.
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02:23 PM on 08/18/2013
I think you'll find perversion has always been a part of the human experience, and writers from all eras have claimed their's was the worst.
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02:50 PM on 08/18/2013
It has actually often been people brave enough to challenge the ignorance of religious teachings that has moved society forward.
12:08 PM on 08/18/2013
I claim circular reasoning....

People who use the analytical model to think about religion are less likely to be religious than those who use a faith based model. Let's define the analytical model as intelligence. Therefore the analytical model is more smarter
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02:24 PM on 08/18/2013
There is no other model for studying data.
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gmikejake
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05:11 PM on 08/18/2013
Sure there is ... depends a lot on your definitions of "studying" and "data." Tea partiers "studying" the "effects" of the Obama administration? Examples are available daily here on HufPo.
05:31 PM on 08/18/2013
Sure there is. Lots of people spend their whole lives studying the Bible. They use a system of internally consistent "reasoning" that of course ignores any data that contradicts their pre-defined conclusion.
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11:55 AM on 08/18/2013
It doesn't matter at all since Atheists aren't smart enough to organize and flex political muscle on the (hopelessly corrupt) Washington establishment.
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01:40 PM on 08/18/2013
What would atheists organize around? The only thing they have in common is a lack of belief in gods; beyond that, atheists come in every political and social stripe with no central organizing principle.
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11:49 AM on 08/18/2013
As an atheist I have searched for my own answers in a variety of religious and philosophical texts, including The Bible, The Gnostics Texts, The Bhagavad Gita, The Quran, The Tao Te Ching, and numerous books of Zen koans, including The Blue Cliff Record. All of these contain wise ideas and I have learned something from all of them.

I doubt if most religious people have religious books from any other religion but their own. Why? Because most believe that their book was written by God, albeit from the use of an intermediary of one kind or another. If you've got the literal word of God, who needs anything else, right?

This is where I personally find the ridiculousness of people who practice religions. These texts have been written by humans, for humans. The problems arise in the INTERPRETATION of the texts by people with agendas. Words can be twisted or hand-picked to justify anything. And that's what radicals of every faith end up doing.
12:34 PM on 08/18/2013
Actually, radicals tend to be the ones that honestly interpret the texts for what they are. Moderates ignore troubling passages.
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gmikejake
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05:13 PM on 08/18/2013
Hmmmmmmmm ... "radical" and "moderate" are relative terms, depends on your perspective. How so, please. And then once the terms are operationally defined, please reveal your data, how you obtained it, etc.
Now was that a "radical" or a "moderate" interpretation?
Kappa51
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01:08 PM on 08/18/2013
I would take that even one step further.....that most religious people don't read their OWN book.

How many Christians have actually READ the Bible....the whole thing? I know most pretend they have....but I doubt it.....most are content to just have have it dictated to them through their Preachers, Ministers or Priests.

If more people read it.....and had an ounce of intelligence or curiosity.....they would question it and want to find out more about ALL religions.
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01:21 PM on 08/18/2013
As many Christians read the Bible as the number of Baggers who read the Constitution and all of its Amendments. F&F.
04:29 PM on 08/18/2013
And furthermore how many of them that have actually read it actually UNDERSTAND it.
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Dallas Dunlap
11:30 AM on 08/18/2013
IMHO, generalizing about the relative IQs of one group of people vs another is foolish. If you are making decisions re the credibility of a particular person, what matters is his/her history and performance, not the average of the group to which he/she belongs.
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02:29 PM on 08/18/2013
Fair enough, but studies like this are not used to determine the credibility of individuals, or credibility at all. They are used to understand how the human mind works so that we may come to better understand the human condition.
05:34 PM on 08/18/2013
Yes, but the "human condition" is a generalization with little value.
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So there I was, playing the piano....
11:11 AM on 08/18/2013
I've been an Atheist since childhood for this exact reason, analysis and observation killed any faith I had in the existence of god or the goodness of religion. Does it matter? No, Atheists still are reluctant to come out due to social and employment attacks and negativity. If that reminds you of the struggle of gays and lesbians you get the picture. We're not chosen, saved, blessed and sure as hell not born again. And the faithful resent it. Not that we care.
12:58 PM on 08/18/2013
There's a big difference: they are willing to kill you for their beliefs. Are you prepared to kill them for yours? Historically speaking, (with the exception of the commies), the answer is "no".
04:13 PM on 08/18/2013
With the exception of the commies, who have managed to kill maybe 100 million in their short existence.
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10:58 AM on 08/18/2013
Good morning, Here's what you don't see. You don't see one science group fire bombing another science group's labs.
04:19 PM on 08/18/2013
No. The science-based terrorists don't tend to attack other scientists, although this may not be entirely true..
But there are eco-terrorists.
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Craig2
Living in the great State of Jefferson
11:20 AM on 08/19/2013
I'd accept your point if economics were a science... it's not.
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04:56 PM on 08/18/2013
Nor do atheists or scientists knock on your door to try to convert you and they don't scream at non-atheists/scientists from street corners or on the airwaves.
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Craig2
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11:18 AM on 08/19/2013
All true. And, although I believe String Theory is bunk, I do not scream from the street corners or airwaves that their crayon sharpeners should be taken away. Unless I just did.
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phoo-doo
10:52 AM on 08/18/2013
This is actually good news for all people who are believers. Because it turns out that "most" public research is false. So since most is false, the odds are good that this is too. Sorry, all you atheists are so dumb. Its not your fault you can't even do good research. Maybe its genetics.

Why Most Published Research Findings Are False
John P. A. Ioannidis
http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124
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02:32 PM on 08/18/2013
You do realize that your logic is flawed, even if your premise is true?
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phoo-doo
07:16 PM on 08/18/2013
I think you are an atheist, and thus will have a hard time having the intellect to understand.
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03:32 PM on 08/18/2013
it turns out that "most" public research is false
Including the source you link to.
09:48 AM on 08/18/2013
Shocking. Intelligent people tend not to believe in things for which there is no evidence.... I'm not sure this is news.
10:37 AM on 08/18/2013
Neither belief is evidence-based. Atheism is just as arbitrary and unproven as deism.
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10:55 AM on 08/18/2013
And you prove the lack of intelligence that the article talks about. Understand what atheism actually is before posting.
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Dallas Dunlap
11:28 AM on 08/18/2013
bagfed - Not really. In the absence of evidence, theists believe in a God or gods. That's called faith.
In the absence of positive evidence, atheists believe that there probably isn't any God.
Not believing in something for which there is no objective evidence is not arbitrary.
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09:32 AM on 08/18/2013
The term "brights", to self-describe a group of people based on, well... much of anything, is tacky. It strikes me as undergraduate hubrus. That said, logic, not scientific method, which sticks to means and methods, will eventually lead to the nonexistence of a God. A race of Gods, as in classical times, makes more sense.
But if God does not exist, we would surely have invented Him anyway. Most people have a hard time being their own master..
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11:59 AM on 08/18/2013
1. Suppose there was a UTM> Ultimate truth machine.
2. And we have a P(UTM)> Program of UTM
3. Write out the sentence:This machine will never say based on P(UTM), this sentence is true.
4. Feed the sentence into the UTM.
5. If UTM says the sentence is true, then this sentence is false. So UTM will never say this sentence is true since UTM only makes true statements.
6. We have established that UTM will never say this sentence is true. But in fact this sentence is true.
7. Proving that UTM is not universal and all truth will never be known with logic.
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02:38 PM on 08/18/2013
If there was an ultimate truth machine it would know there is no ultimate truth and it wouldn't boot. Logic can never lead us to know what we can't know by other means. It is just a way of describing what we know.
03:14 PM on 08/18/2013
It's not that bad. Brights refer to theists as "supers." It must be nice to be told you're super.

I'm an atheist and I'm sure that as a group, we do have a higher degree of analytical intelligence. Our downfall is in the area of emotional intelligence. Many atheists are socially phobic or quite introverted. That makes it difficult for them to interact well with other people, especially those outside their group.

I've been interacting with atheists online and through an assortment of organized atheist groups so I think I have quite a bit of, at least anecdotal, evidence for this.

On the other hand, my atheist cohorts are among the most ethical and empathetic group of people I've ever known. After all, unlike many of our Christian friends, we don't believe that all we need to do is pray in order to be forgiven for the wrong things we do. Instead, I think most of us try harder to do the right thing in the first place. We're not perfect, but we're not waiting for a magical invisible entity to forgive us of our wrong doing.
09:12 AM on 08/18/2013
I am always intrique when I read articles about atheist being more intelligent or smarter. I am a
catholic but an open minded one. Whatever we do in life is our choices to make a smarter move
and not religion to control our minds and hearts but to contribute as a humanist to society.
11:19 AM on 08/18/2013
I was told by a Franciscan nun in grade school that we could not and should not try to impose our religious beliefs upon other people. Just lead by example. Too many of the religious seem to be unable to live and let live. I believe that the ten commandments are the foundation of western civilization. The rest of the bible is a bunch of parables that have been interpreted into religious dogma. It's the interpretations and the enforcement of dogma that has killed millions and stifled independent thought throughout history.
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01:15 PM on 08/18/2013
I agree.....growing up, I don't remember ANY religions trying to push their beliefs on others like they do today....and you sure didn't hear every other Republican telling people that "God told him to run."

Funny, how this change came along, right about the same time that the GOP embraced the Religious Right.
08:02 AM on 08/18/2013
I think the best quote is this: "If, when you walk into a dark room and reach for a switch instead of falling to your knees and praying for light, you are accepting science over religion."
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11:10 PM on 08/18/2013
What you don't know about theology, and the meaning of prayer and self-sufficiency in a religious context, is a lot.
07:40 AM on 08/19/2013
I know that theology is the study and dissection of made up ideas and to give it any more credence than that is absurd. I view all man-made religions in the same light as people who really get into Star Trek and discuss it as if it's something tangible. That and Scientology.
07:43 AM on 08/18/2013
Their is, and are, no god or gods,to believe otherwise, is, totally, flawed.
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08:18 AM on 08/18/2013
Except, of course, for those that humans have created ... often in their own images.
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08:51 AM on 08/18/2013
Some people are totally flawed. Plain and simple.