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spinns17
TEAMSTER
01:03 PM on 12/22/2009
i just cant wait for the next wall street great idea.
01:03 PM on 12/22/2009
Anybody here have a job?
10:47 PM on 12/22/2009
Not me.
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12:49 PM on 12/22/2009
Here in Republican ruled Arizona we have no fear, as our illustrious and heroic senator, John McCain, not only knows how to solve the economic crisis, but could simultaneously lead us to where OBL is hiding--if he chose to do so. And not only that, we have the equally magnificent (and eerily handsome) Jon Kyl to bring his expertise and bipartisan spirit to assist in our rescue. Arizona--we're 49th, we're 49th!!
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spinns17
TEAMSTER
12:56 PM on 12/22/2009
well you know what you people have to do there.out with the old and in with the new.lol
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wilsonveteran
Free America End Big Government
12:30 PM on 12/22/2009
You know times are bad and our government is spending to much money when china tells us they cannot afford to buy our treasury bills and have started to sell some of our treasuries they have to third world countries. In Fact China said there is not enough money in the world to support our spending.

Soon Obama will get his wish and the dollar will collapse along with our economy. I guess Michele can then be proud of this country for the second time in her life.
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ThunderclapNewman
There's Something In the Air
12:31 PM on 12/22/2009
You post the most unsupportable Iies.
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wilsonveteran
Free America End Big Government
12:37 PM on 12/22/2009
Try this straight from china. However I doubt you will believe it.

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/print.asp?id=423054

http://www.infowars.com/china-‘the-world-does-not-have-money-to-buy-more-us-treasuries’/
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OLJW00
right is right
12:46 PM on 12/22/2009
China indeed said EXACTLY that a few days ago....feel free to Google it.

Our dollar is going to collapse at some point, given our current path, and that will destroy our economy.
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ScreenName05
12:36 PM on 12/22/2009
If you are so worried, we could just end the wars we can't afford, bring the troops home and cut off the contractors and military industrial complex that is helping the health insurance companies bankrupt the country.
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wilsonveteran
Free America End Big Government
12:40 PM on 12/22/2009
What we can do is to get the government from spending.

1.1 trillion bill to give government employee's pay raises and social programs
179 billion stimulus to do the same thing the other hasn't done
650 billion defense bill
850 billion health care bill

That is only this month. There is not enough money in the world to support this.
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03:00 PM on 12/22/2009
No way...they won't hear you (willful ignorance),....plenty of money to kill, but they bitch about money to heal.
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SvrWx
Eileen, toora tooluri Eh..
12:27 PM on 12/22/2009
What does it matter? China will write the checks to pay for those unemployment benefits...we should just be ready for that inevitibility.
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spinns17
TEAMSTER
12:30 PM on 12/22/2009
there going to do to us ,what japan did.to us.buy us up block by block.,company by company.
12:43 PM on 12/22/2009
Um, if Japan already bought us up, wouldn't China have to go to Japan to buy "us." Are are we double dipping block by block, company by company?
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PocketWatch
12:48 PM on 12/22/2009
And when the commercial real estate market collapsed, they ran like whipped dogs, too. People have tried that before, and got nowhere.
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ThunderclapNewman
There's Something In the Air
12:30 PM on 12/22/2009
Nope.

China buys US treasury bonds, just like all other holders of US debt.

The largest holder of current US debt is the Federal Reserve System.
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spinns17
TEAMSTER
12:15 PM on 12/22/2009
how many here think bush read the trade agreements.
12:21 PM on 12/22/2009
I thought Mr. Clinton was the guy enacting all the trade agreements?
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spinns17
TEAMSTER
12:23 PM on 12/22/2009
clinton did nafta deal .bush did cafta.which was the one that hurt us bad.
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spinns17
TEAMSTER
12:28 PM on 12/22/2009
http://www.export.gov/FTA/index.asp
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opines
12:15 PM on 12/22/2009
If it were not for unemployment benefits which did not exist until late in the Great Depression of the 1930s, we would now be seeing the breadlines and Hoovervilles that were emblems of that economic collapse.
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ThunderclapNewman
There's Something In the Air
12:25 PM on 12/22/2009
If conservatives got their way, those Hoovervilles and bread lines would be here lickety-split.
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PocketWatch
12:49 PM on 12/22/2009
Next up on the Republican agenda: Which poor house serves the best gruel?
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OLJW00
right is right
12:50 PM on 12/22/2009
Conservatives are not your enemy amigo. We are ALL citizens and are intertwined in whatever happens. To claim such moral high-ground (whilst offering such a despicable opinion of your fellow citizens who just happen to have a different view of things) is a sad commentary.
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spinns17
TEAMSTER
12:14 PM on 12/22/2009
cafta and nafta did us good .lol
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spinns17
TEAMSTER
12:13 PM on 12/22/2009
lets do another free trade agreeent again
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spinns17
TEAMSTER
12:14 PM on 12/22/2009
trade agreement lol sorry
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spinns17
TEAMSTER
12:11 PM on 12/22/2009
wow did we get any jobs back from mexico or china yet?.
12:34 PM on 12/22/2009
my advice?...don't hold your breathe
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spinns17
TEAMSTER
12:54 PM on 12/22/2009
lol im not.
12:07 PM on 12/22/2009
some peole here will never get that they have been gamed by both parties.
They continue to think that their team is wonderful and the other team is wrong.
That thinking is now outmoded, you can no longer labor under that illusion.
Be very careful and examine the terms you are using.
The real solutions to the real problems are the ones that will both serve and be accomplished by the majority of the people. Maintain critical thinking,compassion and save the emotions for your favorite ball team. This is a job for grown -ups.
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Kellyk311
Something Clever
12:12 PM on 12/22/2009
Fan + Fav + Total Agreement.
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RSU
Making the right choice, one decision at a time
11:52 AM on 12/22/2009
waverly writes:

Cutting taxes only increased profits to be paid out as income to top management, no additional jobs created. Investing in business has only result in more profit to be doled out at the top, no additional jobs created. It is a false premise. That is why the upper 3% increased their wages by 400% this past decade.

Posted 10:59 AM on 12/22/2009
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I'm not intending to single you out, but . . .

this is a typical of someone who has been led to believe all businesses are evil and greedy.

The fact is that most businesses are small businesses. You're taking outlandish payouts of a few CEO's and equating that into thinking all businesses operate the same.

I've got news for you, they don't!

Most companies (small businesses) strive all their lives to become large corporations. They do what they can to increase sales through increased productivity and higher efficiency. When sales exceed production, the need to hire new employees outpaces the ability of current employees to produce more.

That's a good thing because it's the slingle largest source of jobs.

Investing in business often provides the vital capital necessary to purchase better equipment, enlarge capacity to produce, streamline processes, and improve the oveall occupational environment of the company (good image = greater trust).

You should stop focusing on the few high profile CEO's that make millions and understand that a few of those apples, . . . does not spoil the entire bushel.

Thinking like
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RSU
Making the right choice, one decision at a time
12:14 PM on 12/22/2009
to finish my last line . . .

. . . yours does!
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ThunderclapNewman
There's Something In the Air
12:26 PM on 12/22/2009
Nonsense of the worst kind.
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RSU
Making the right choice, one decision at a time
12:27 PM on 12/22/2009
Yes, your post certainly is . . . For once we agree.
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rbchilds
Follow the money trail
08:03 AM on 12/24/2009
Never ran a business, have you?
11:35 AM on 12/22/2009
wilsonveteran I'm a Fan of wilsonveteran

So in the liberal world of fairness why should anyone work hard to get ahead. We should just let the government hand it all out so everyone has the same. This is classic class warfare.

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No one is asking for hand outs. We ask for a level playing field—equality. Government has been overly generous to the wealthy while ignoring the general population. Where is the equality? No one can achieve upper mobility when they have to rely on double income just to provide the basics. There may be some great overlooked entrepreneurs out there who just don't have the advantages provided by government for the wealthy to take the risk.
11:40 AM on 12/22/2009
what advantage does an entrepeneur need? They need a place to do business. Government could allow more land to be used for industrial parks. It could reduce or eliminate property taxes on commercial buildings.
11:42 AM on 12/22/2009
then the Fat Cats build/own them get the tax break ...rent to small guys that can't get loans to sell/make stuff for people with no money.
11:52 AM on 12/22/2009
We should just do away with all taxes. Every last one of them.

All government could be run on donations.

Would you buy a box of Marine Corps Cookies to help the cause?
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wilsonveteran
Free America End Big Government
12:04 PM on 12/22/2009
The inheritance tax. Accounts Receivable Tax Building Permit Tax CDL license Tax Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax Dog License Tax Excise Taxes Federal Income Tax Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA) Fishing License Tax Food License Tax Fuel Permit Tax Gasoline Tax Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax Inventory Tax IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax Luxury Taxes Marriage License Tax Medicare Tax Personal Property Tax Property Tax
Real Estate Tax Service Charge Tax Social Security Tax Road Usage Tax Sales Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax School Tax State Income Tax State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
elephone Federal Excise Tax Telephone Federal Universal Ser vice FeeTax Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge=2 0Tax Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax Telephone State and Local Tax Telephone Usage Charge Tax Utility Taxes Vehicle License Registration Tax Vehicle Sales Tax Watercraft Registration Tax Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY? 99% of these taxes did not exist 100 years ago,
and our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no
national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to
raise the kids.
What in the hell happened? Can you spell 'politicians?'
And I still have to 'press 1' for English!?
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ThunderclapNewman
There's Something In the Air
12:28 PM on 12/22/2009
Most of those are state or local taxes, fees or licenses.

Many of them are based on public health or public safety.

All are necessary one way or another because of how modern industrialized societies operate.

You have a very bad habit of comparing apples to dump trucks---and then you wonder why we all laugh at what you post.
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11:35 AM on 12/22/2009
b-dob
Why is unemployment "unexpectedly" going up every single month, then? Let me guess, Bush? GDP includes gov't spending. I guess if you print a couple trillion and throw it into the wind, that number will go up. As for recovery.gov, you're kidding right? It's already proven to post lies and overly hopeful numbers.

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It might be unexpected for b-dobs, not for intelligent people.

Here:
2001 recession.
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Has Structural Change Contributed to a Jobless Recovery?
" The current (2003) recovery has seen steady growth in output but no corresponding rise in employment. A look at layoff trends and industry job gains and losses in 2001-03 suggests that structural change—the permanent relocation of workers from some industries to others—may help explain the stalled growth in jobs."

http://www.ny.frb.org/research/current_issues/ci9-8/ci9-8.html
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Then it took over three years for jobs recovery. Since then, if anything, "structural change" has deepened. Jobs have not just shifted to other industries, but have permanently left the country, especially manufacturing jobs.
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Midnightrain
Hume was the greatest!
11:52 AM on 12/22/2009
Hey! But your local convenience store is always hiring, right?

A job is a job, after all. Just need to work a little harder to get ahead. No such thing as no jobs. That's just leftist rhetoric and is for lazee people.
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b-dob
11:57 AM on 12/22/2009
I suppose in your world of genius there is no difference between stalled growth in a particular sector and catastrophic freefall in the face of massive government spending to intervene. I stand corrected and humbled by your vast economic Google searching abilities.
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Tim303
11:31 AM on 12/22/2009
Thanks to New Gingrich for this--he forced Clinton to sign "welfare reform" that transferred this money to the states.