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02:37 PM on 01/22/2010
I'M GOING TO TYPE THIS IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE SOMEBODY NEEDS TO SHOUT THIS OUT!!!

HAITI DOES NOT NEED ANY MORE IMF HELP. THEY ARE NOW UP TO THEIR EYEBALLS IN IMF DEBT.

THEY DO NOT NEED LOANS....... TO BE REPAID WITH INTEREST!!! ....... THEY NEED GRANTS!!!~!!~!
02:57 PM on 01/22/2010
The global loan sharks are at it again.

No interest payments for five years??? Is the interest accumulating in the meantime?? To whose bank account in the west is the money actually going to be deposited? What disaster profiteers are going to make out on this one?

You are so right. GRANTS not LOANS.

The IMF is rushing in to pick over the bones of the poorest of the poor because countries like Argentina have given them the heave-ho. They give great terms to countries in the sub-Sahara as well.

Hard to stomach.
03:20 PM on 01/22/2010
Kudos!
02:36 PM on 01/22/2010
What ever decision coming out of this or the West we all know is ALWAYS a disaster for Haiti. Poverty is the preferred way.
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frappe
Corporations aren't people and $ isn't free speech
02:33 PM on 01/22/2010
We also need a Marshall Plan for the U.S., too.
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RIP, ignorance
02:33 PM on 01/22/2010
The IMF is the international lender of last resort. AKA: Payday loan sharks.

They bail out countries with impossible terms with the nation's resources as collateral. When the nation can not repay the debt, and they usually can't, the IMF lays claim to the resources of the country.

For historical reference, see the British East India Company and how they raped "colonies" of their resources.

Any time you see IMF, think International Money Fraud. It's nothing but bankers-without-borders preying on the desperate.
02:32 PM on 01/22/2010
Marshall Plan means, to scare the people militarily and manufacture for corporations with minimum wages so that people don't grow. Basically enslaving the people and not letting them decide on their own land. They are poor because the West appoints puppet governments and make sure there is structural adjustment. Read history. BAD IDEA!
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02:27 PM on 01/22/2010
Haiti was a tragedy, a big one. But there have been others, many in recent times, as bad, or nearly as bad. 1/4 million in the 2004 tsunami, 150 thousand in Myanmar only a year ago, earthquakes killing 90,000 in Pakistan, 70,000 in China, 40,000 in Iran in the last decade.

It's hit a nerve with us because of our history abusing the nation. Haiti will survive, as will the people, if we give them a helping hand and leave them alone.
02:23 PM on 01/22/2010
I believe, they want to take over Haiti with false information that Haiti is poor, can't take care of itself, etc. I think Haiti should just be left alone even without any aid and they will stand on their two feet. Because of their strength in the past, the West does not not want them developed.
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Smithn
13.7 billion yrs--i am not. *BIG*BANG* ==>> I am.
02:29 PM on 01/22/2010
The Ambassadore from Haiti asked for the Marshal Plan on the Charlie Rose show on the second night of the quake.
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Smithn
13.7 billion yrs--i am not. *BIG*BANG* ==>> I am.
02:31 PM on 01/22/2010
The Ambassadore from Haiti asked for the Marshal Plan on the Charlie Rose show on the second night of the quake.
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02:50 PM on 01/22/2010
The ambassador of what? It's not the ambassador of a legitimate government. We don't allow those in Haiti. How much weight would you give a request by Karsai in Afghanistan? Investment is needed in Haiti, but not on IMF terms. Perhaps they should call in help from Chavez and the people who renegotiated the oil contracts there (only Exxon didn't accept the deal, but they got their investment cap back). This will not happen in Haiti, however. And our corporatist pres will be on the side of this man from the IMF. Sad and pathetic. One thing I'll give the Hatians though: They keep on defying empire after empire and dictator (regent, more acurately) after dictator. Fine people, Haitians.
02:20 PM on 01/22/2010
Get rid of the IMF. Poor countries would do better if they were not indebted to the rich. The IMF is a tool for dependence on America and ther multinational coporations. It is time to get rid of the IMF.
02:27 PM on 01/22/2010
They also do better without gov intervention. Can you name one country the UN has dumped aid into that has actually prospered?

China is doing well today because the gov got out of the way of the market. They were under gov control for over 50 years and lived in poverty.

There exists no example of any poor country that has become prosperous because of aid from the UN or from any entitlement based gov system but there are plenty of examples of poor countries that have become prosperous because markets were allowed to grow and gov was diminished. India and China for example.
02:19 PM on 01/22/2010
You should propose this to your fellow countrymen in France. The French can pay for it and you can call it the "DeGaulle Plan".
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Smithn
13.7 billion yrs--i am not. *BIG*BANG* ==>> I am.
02:18 PM on 01/22/2010
I think the new go'vt. must okay enough for Bill Clinton to trust them. He was there the week prior to the quake with his international investors working toward the "Manufacturing for America Initiative." All of his donors have recommited to working with him towards a bright futhure for Haiti. Clinton said while there Sunday that he is "optimistic" about Haiti's future. It's hard for me to imagine Clinton AND all his International Peeps are hoodwinked by President Praval.

http://www.clintonfoundation.org/haitiearthquake/
02:26 PM on 01/22/2010
Why do Haitians need the Clintons and Bushes? Why do they have to be under someone? Why can't they govern themselves and bring back Aristide? Why is the West refusing to do this is because they want Haiti to be Banana Republic.
02:15 PM on 01/22/2010
How come there's no aid going into the Dominican Republic? They are both on the same island hit by the same earth quake.

The DR has open markets, rule of law and a gov that stays out of the market. They have business, tourism and allow growth and prosperity.

Haiti had a gov, it just didn't have a free market. It had a gov of thugs bribing the populace with entitlements and hooking them on programs. The gov was the pusher and they people were the junkies.

Now you want to once more imprison these people like the UN has done to Africa and make them once more hooked and dependent on gov hand outs.

Let Nike or some other company come in and set up shop. Let these people earn their wages and grow real wealth for themselves. That is the only way poor people get out of poverty.

Think about it this way. The UN has been dumping aid into Africa for over 50 years and Africans are still poor. It doesn't work. Its just pushers enslaving junkies.
02:29 PM on 01/22/2010
Why isn't your option be bring back Aristide? I think you agree with Clinton that want Haiti to be a place where corporations run their factory? Why does Clinton decide what he wants instead ask Haitians what they want?
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Kristen777
02:42 PM on 01/22/2010
Then why don't we offer them low interest small business loans and let them grow their own business sector to service their own people's needs and wants rather than having mega corporations go in and tell them what they're going to do in their own country?

Why don't we offer them vocational education so they can learn their new trade skills?
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Kristen777
02:14 PM on 01/22/2010
And in swoop the commercial developers and private contractors. Ohhhhhh that inviting blank canvass!!

Nothing like creating fortune from someone else's demise.
02:31 PM on 01/22/2010
Yes! And these people can earn and create real wealth instead of standing around waiting for a government to hand them entitlements! BTW care to show me one country of poor that has prospered under the UN giving them aid?

China allowed contractors and private enterprise to come in and put its work force to work. How do you think Macs and IPhones are made? And the chinese now have enough economic prosperity to loan money to the US. Same with India. Two countries that were poverty stricken under governments now are prosperous under free markets.

Look at the Dominican Republic right next door to Haiti. Any aid going there? Nope. They have markets, prosperity, growth.

Markets are the way to go, not gov hand outs.
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03:58 PM on 01/22/2010
Actually, the DR gets plenty of aid. And it also has a better social safety net than Haiti. Not sure if you want to hold it up as an example of free markets, though. For many historical reasons, it's wealthier than Haiti (now) but still a poor country. And it was only within the last 40 years that they developed faster than Haiti. The more Haiti adopted structural adjustment programs (to make them free markets you like) at the insistence of donors (really lenders) like the IMF, the poorer it became. Again, you don't know much about this region, do you? Just in case you didn’t notice, it’s nowhere near China or India. Be honest, could you find Haiti on a map before last week?
02:12 PM on 01/22/2010
This is a great suggestion, but not really a viable one. And the comparison made with the Marshall Plan post WW2, shows the flaw in the argument. In Europe, the issue was rebuilding the infrastructure damaged as a result of the war and the economy. The problem with Haiti, is that while money can rebuild the infrastructure (roads, housing, water facilities, hospitals etc), money alone will not revive the economy there because of the poverty and lack of education among its citizenry. The Germans, Italians and Japanese were highly educated and had viable economies (pre-depression). In Haiti, there are not enough jobs there and not enough qualified people to bring an economy there. To turn around that problem would take a generation or more. And, that assumes you can get around the issue of crime and corruption present.

Nice idea, lousy plan.
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01:58 PM on 01/22/2010
Well then Dominique dig deep because We the People are BROKE.
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02:19 PM on 01/22/2010
The businesses on whose behalf this man is bidding will end up receiving more charity from the American taxpayer than the Haitians will receive. But we will hear non stop how we are doing this all for them as we rob them of what resources they have.
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01:57 PM on 01/22/2010
This is a good ideal and proposed by others, however, that means tossing out the current corrupt government and that France, US and Britain step in and take over governing the country until the people are capable of doing it themselves. I do not wish to see all the money and aid going to a country where a corrupt government will get their hands on it and the people will continue to suffer. It would be nice for once if the world would come together and really work at fixing this small nation that has been neglected and ruined by corrupt individuals out for their own gain.

After Haiti, I wonder if the world will also be kind enough to fix other nations that so desperately need help. I can name a few dozen off the top of my head. Instead of doing nothing, and letting evil people run rampant in nations like the Sudan, Somalia, Congo, and what not, why not actually put a stop to it and fix it. When is the world going to come together and demand that we will no longer sit idly by as such things as genocide take place. Did we not learn anything from previous such instances in out history?
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Smithn
13.7 billion yrs--i am not. *BIG*BANG* ==>> I am.
02:16 PM on 01/22/2010
I think the new go'vt. must okay enough for Bill Clinton to trust them. He was there the week prior to the quake with his international investors working toward the "Manufacturing for America Initiative." All of his donors have recommited to working with him towards a bright futhure for Haiti. Clinton said while there Sunday that he is "optimistic" about Haiti's future. It's hard for me to imagine Clinton AND all his International Peeps are hoodwinked by President Praval.

http://www.clintonfoundation.org/haitiearthquake/