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10:06 AM on 01/25/2010
We'll be out sooner when the American people get tired of having their kids come home in body bags.
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nirek
Proud progressive Vietnam vet. against WAR
10:24 AM on 01/25/2010
Like the old protest song of Vietnam era says, " be the first one on your block to have your son come home in a box" .

I was tired of war after I got back from Vietnam in 1969.

Peace
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Graywolf48
If you’re not at the table, you’re on the menu
10:29 AM on 01/25/2010
That makes two of us.
10:58 AM on 01/25/2010
Nirek, Thank you for your service in the Vietnam He**hole, where 58 thousand young, brave, American soldiers were slaughtered, along with 3 million Vietnamese soldiers. I hate war, just hate it. Like one of our Generals said in WW11, "Make jaw jaw, not war, war. " Can't we all just get along? Why am I paying for Sure-Shot Dickie's stocks in Halliburton going through the roof? Creep. He started that Iraq war, based on his pack of lies and jammed them down the throats of the American people. Congress sat like wimps and allowed it to go forward. The media did the same. This country is broke and will never recover. The middle class is going the way of the dinosaurs. Soon we will return to the Gilded Age, a republican dream achieved, the rich and the rest, poor. People will be working for pennies, just for a bowl of gruel once a day. I'm seriously considering leaving the country.
10:05 AM on 01/25/2010
If this is news to anyone, they haven't been paying attention.
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BlackJAC
It's better to be a black king than a white knight
09:16 AM on 01/25/2010
Petraeus is 100% consultant who does nothing but juke the stats in order to keep his job a little while longer until he's maxed out the pension scale or some defense contractor offers him a cushy slot to retire to.
10:09 AM on 01/25/2010
BJAC: Don't forget that Petraeus has visions of running for President. He is building up his resume for that job, while diminishing O'. stature. O. should have kicked him to the curb, claimed victory in Afghanistan and pulled all of our troops out of that black hole. I don't recall anytime in history where there was a victory there. What makes us think that we can affect change? The only change we will get is our country in total bankruptcy.
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nirek
Proud progressive Vietnam vet. against WAR
10:28 AM on 01/25/2010
Finally someone who thinks exactly what I do !
Thanks for saying it so clearly.
Fanned and faved.

Peace
Nirek
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skyshoes
08:42 AM on 01/25/2010
Vietnam... Except the Vietnamese wanted us out.... The Taliban and the Afghans and the Pakistanis want us there, to continue breaking down the "great satan" economically and militarily.. Patraeus/Obama fail.
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07:18 AM on 01/25/2010
A kinder gentler Taliban that's the ticket no more cutting of body parts or beating there women, they'll just tie a piece of piano wire around a limb and watch it fall off,and as far as the women go they'll just shove them in a hole in the ground until they learn. This dirt hole of a country needs to be left alone and follow the money of bin laden and his hence man because there no longer where we say they are.
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Amalek
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10:07 AM on 01/25/2010
"You can't negotiate with terrorists. They don't speak English".

George W. Bush. November 20, 2005
01:01 PM on 01/25/2010
Yeah......neither did he!
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Ergon
Man From Atlan
07:15 AM on 01/25/2010
Retreat Now.
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06:57 AM on 01/25/2010
Special people are allowed to move the goalposts

I think there is a once-per-week limit however
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SidT645
10:16 AM on 01/25/2010
Moving withdrawl date: Is it a surprise news...
06:44 AM on 01/25/2010
You guys appear to have forgotten that a 4-star general is a political appointee and that General Petraeus cannot "move the goalpost" without tacit permission of the commander-in-chief. If Obama wanted them gone from their positions, they would be.
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Graywolf48
If you’re not at the table, you’re on the menu
10:33 AM on 01/25/2010
No, it takes courage to fire a general, something that Obama lacks. Obama avoids confrontation like the plague. Besides, Petraeus is a darling of the right wing. Firing him or McChrystal would set off a firestorm.
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oxygen
love is like oxygen
01:02 PM on 01/25/2010
no but he can make all the suggestions he wants to
peowlemeow
Democrat,non-military,undereducated,semi-retired.
06:30 AM on 01/25/2010
Thanks HP.I like the military coverage you provide.It seems sometimes the military just continues conflict to retire as combat professionals that can sell their expertise.The President said American troops would withdraw in 2011.Then Gates and Hillary and the generals immediately jumped in to "clarify".Obama is the President.These generals are going to be as popular as Westmoreland or Al Haig if they keep fooling with the President and the statements he made to get elected and as President.At least they were smart enough to remain quiet when Palin and McCain wanted to fight Russia over Georgia.
05:30 AM on 01/25/2010
Petraeus and McChrystal have been determined to undermine and override the Commander-in-Chief from the outset. So this isn't new. What I want to know is why they cannot defeat 24,000 Taliban and 100 Al Qaeda with 100,000 NATO troops and why that makes any kind of sense to the public. We have the state of the art military equipment and out man them at least 4 to 1 by their own admission but they are winning. Something is wrong with this picture.
TheBear
I still believe but I'm getting tired
10:33 AM on 01/25/2010
I know it's either a massive failure on the part of the Pentagon and they are intentionally "losing" the war. But you won't find one member of the media or any politian who dares to question their performance. Who is running this country anyway?
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12:20 PM on 01/25/2010
All we are doing there and elsewhere is "training them terrorists" to fight EACH OTHER ... as they've been doing since time began.

DEMOCRATS MUST GROW A BACKBONE
AND BRING OUR TROOPS BACK HOME!!!