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OLJW00
right is right
12:32 PM on 05/12/2010
OMG - another need to hurry and pass a bad piece of legislation...

Imagine that.
12:41 PM on 05/12/2010
How does a year of debate, which followed 5 decades of discussion about healthcare reform, equate to "hurrying"? This is your brain on Fox...
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OLJW00
right is right
01:26 PM on 05/12/2010
Hurry hurry..... We have to hurry up and pass legislation... And we believe in Pay-Go except it won't apply to anything we pass....

"Never let a serious crisis go to waste", Rahm Immanuel
12:42 PM on 05/12/2010
Now is NOT the time to start reading the bills. Just play along.
12:30 PM on 05/12/2010
Hey.Kerry? Kerry...Why don't you read up on the greatest mind of the 20 century...a multy lingual mathematical genius... He invented a device to transmit enegy wirelessly. He said of the device that "it could be modified to tap into the free electromagnetic waves to power tools." Yeah that's right... the greatest invention ever conceived but you can't put a power meter on it. There were some prototypes...What did your government do with his enginering prints after it revoked his citizenship and confiscated his possessions?
At least read up on the feller.
12:56 PM on 05/12/2010
What is the name???
01:09 PM on 05/12/2010
Al Gore
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Tyler-Durden
leading a revolution of one
12:58 PM on 05/12/2010
i suppose he's not "reading up" because you didn't provide a link to whatever you are ranting about.

feller.
12:30 PM on 05/12/2010
The carbon credit trading scheme in this bill would penalize businesses, by setting arbitrary allowable amounts of carbon emissions and charging them if the go over the amount. This bill is a business killer and will result in huge increases in energy costs, passed on to (guess who?), the public.

The science of carbon emissions and climate are do discredited, this bill would be a sham.

No Thanks.
01:08 PM on 05/12/2010
Who gets rich? Rich bankers and traders. And the government gets a big slice.

Who gets poor? Everyone else.
12:27 PM on 05/12/2010
Does anyone know how many BTUs of energy the Energy Department produced last year? Just curious.
01:10 PM on 05/12/2010
Are you talking from the bureaucrats having a pulse or..........?
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bigfro
12:26 PM on 05/12/2010
Yeah but people should actually have to reduce emissions. Right now they can buy coupons from non polluters and keep destroying the earth.
12:50 PM on 05/12/2010
Correct...and this bill really does zero to change that. Like playing with that colorful boardgame Monopoly money....then patting yourself on the back for getting something done....
12:26 PM on 05/12/2010
Here we go again, arguing...arguing and more debate. Meanwhile, China and Europe understands whoever leads in alternative energy will lead the world.
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SweetBabu
Don't wanna cry, so I guess I'll laugh
12:31 PM on 05/12/2010
Yup. Why can't we wrap our minds around this? Alternative energy has the potential to create jobs across ALL sectors, from basic construction to high tech and science. What part of this don't we understand??
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kucheka
12:49 PM on 05/12/2010
Not to mention meeting the energy needs of the world's poorest, which can spin off to yield benefits to nutrition, sanitation, education, economic production...
01:11 PM on 05/12/2010
We understand that it can't be made cheaply enough to entice people to buy it.

I WANT solar panels. I can't RATIONALIZE them. It would be a 20 year investment on a house I will only have for a few more years.
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lemmyk73
When you see a Rainbow, it is God having gay sex.
12:25 PM on 05/12/2010
BS. This is about more federal government control.

Folks the feds can not fix ANYTHING. We have to do it ourselves. The first step is to stop overusing oil.

This "bi-partisan") nonsense is an excuse to tax us more. DO NOT LET the Obama admin take anymore of your money!
12:36 PM on 05/12/2010
Don't be a tea partying putz!
01:13 PM on 05/12/2010
Don't be gullible. It's all about control. If it were about actually doing something, they'd just start making mandates, kill business, have us all unemployed, living in tents, but putting out no CO2.

Government always needs a dragon to slay.
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duhtruth
12:38 PM on 05/12/2010
You are right! Let's give it to big oil and banks! They will fix everything and quickly for themselves.
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GeorgeP922
12:23 PM on 05/12/2010
I would say this will fail due to your cosponsers.

Both Grahm and Lieberman have scoffed at the BP oil spill.

To quote Lieberman "Accidents happen"

Best of luck
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salmonellae
12:11 PM on 05/12/2010
Bull Crap. It seems that every single piece of legislation to help our environment or economy is really a thinly veiled ploy to make the Rich Richer and effectively get rid of the middle class faster than is already happening..........I'm sick of it.
12:24 PM on 05/12/2010
That is goal of the republicans..
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clearwaterclearmind
couldn't stand bush. can't stand obama for the sam
12:33 PM on 05/12/2010
it is very much a bipartisan effort.
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salmonellae
01:00 PM on 05/12/2010
Really? and yet the bill is co-authored and pushed by ultra libs........
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SweetBabu
Don't wanna cry, so I guess I'll laugh
12:30 PM on 05/12/2010
Yup, the bill includes "exemptions from emissions caps for heavy industry," according to the NYTimes. Hmmm, why would that be?
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12:05 PM on 05/12/2010
yeah we heard the same BS about the stimulus bill about all the job creation. You better hope it creates a lot of good paying jobs since energy prices will skyrocket
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Majestry
Every man is the artisan of his own fortune
12:20 PM on 05/12/2010
Avast! Thar be talking points crashing off the starboard side!
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GeorgeP922
12:24 PM on 05/12/2010
America has the lowest energy prices in the western world.

Don't like our prices, move to England, ironically home of BP, pay 8$ a gallon and tell me how it feels.
12:03 PM on 05/12/2010
The "Climategate" scandal has muddied the political waters too much for anything "big" to happen in the foreseeable future. The elections are too close. The cost is too high. The term "pro-growth Tax" is an oxymoron. This will not happen this year, or next.
12:25 PM on 05/12/2010
In the meantime, China is doing everything they can to be the leader in alternative energy.
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PerfectSense
Think - before Progressives outlaw thinking.
12:31 PM on 05/12/2010
China is building something like 50 new coal fired power plants per year.
01:18 PM on 05/12/2010
We're doing everything we can afford.

Kerry wants to do everything we can't afford.
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Nardwilly
12:44 PM on 05/12/2010
There is no climate gate.
12:00 PM on 05/12/2010
overturning the offshore drilling ban is disgraceful & unacceptable.

reagan and the bushies couldnt pass this - but you and obama want to?

h@ll no!
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scholasticus
I don't have to believe your
04:03 PM on 05/13/2010
Typical Lieberman sellout to Big Corpo. Another FU to poor people from Lieberman.
12:00 PM on 05/12/2010
From David Dayden at FDL:
"'Those affected states would then be able to veto drilling by passing a law. Those states that are able to go ahead with drilling will retain 37 percent of the federal revenue generated by that activity.'"

"Yes, it’s the return of the “opt-out,” last seen during the health care debate as a convenient way for Congress to punt contentious issues back to the states. But I doubt that even this will satisfy opponents of new drilling, who have been emboldened by the BP spill. In two Senate committees today, anti-drilling Senators fulminated about the disaster.
"And Florida’s Bill Nelson certainly doesn’t sound conciliatory:
"'Word is climate bill might let rigs in Florida’s no-drill zone. If Sens. Kerry, Lieberman are following me on Twitter: that’s a non starter.'"
Opt-out if you don't want oil to spill on your shores! That'll do it! Kerry: the Great Environmentalist ! Hahahahahha!!!!!
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12:38 PM on 05/12/2010
Seems that most of NE Coast (MA etc) wanted to "opt out" on coastline wind power, something about the estates along coast did not want such nonsense to interfere with the royalties's view and such. So trusting that bunch to fix the issue in real manner is a joke at best. This stuff reminds me of someone driving a "hybrid that gets 50MPG, while in truth they intend, as that is their plan, to put honking big V8 in it..
12:49 PM on 05/12/2010
i hereby recant my vote for kerry in 2004.
11:49 AM on 05/12/2010
The key is nuclear energy. Until we figure that out, we are not going to get very far. To constantly lead with 'wind and solar' is a mistake. 'Wind and solar' may appeal to many people, but 'wind and solar' cannot get the job done. Sometimes I think China will need to complete it's 200th reactor before it finally dawns on us.
12:15 PM on 05/12/2010
"The key is nuclear energy."
Yeah, maybe we can get the same engineers who put the safety measures in the BP oil rig to design our nuclear reactors.
Nuclear energy: brought to you by the same cheap-it-out corporations who buy the same bought-and-paid-for politicians to regulate the oil industry. KABOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!
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12:40 PM on 05/12/2010
NOTE the Canadians use nukes, different then ours (souped up sub engines) and have had no issues.. but then their banks did not need bailouts, their health care insures all, and they do not allow handguns.. So guess Canada must be hurting as from nukes to handguns, they just do not get it.. thankfully for their citizens.
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Nardwilly
12:48 PM on 05/12/2010
Engineers do not decide what safety items are included. This is a business decision not an engineers decision.
12:18 PM on 05/12/2010
Amen. Throwing more and more tax money at wind and solar will never change the fact that wind and solar are fundamentally hamstrung by high marginal costs and unreliable availability. I don't want to pay for direct subsidies to these limited technologies. Unless there is a radical revolution in fundamental solar cell technology, these alternative energy technologies will never meet our energy needs and never solve our problems.
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Daphydd
Lets play some music
12:32 PM on 05/12/2010
They'll certainly never prosper with a defeatist attitude. Wind power is a demonstrated success and costs will fall as it is more widely implemented. I agree higher efficiency in solar cells is needed. But arguing that we not move in these directions means we won't have that kind of innovation we need.