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Tasies
12:58 AM on 06/09/2010
Not to mention that the Israeli hawks are turning head first into demographic suicide whose only remedy will be ethnic cleansing or genocide or both (actually, both are currently being implemented to a lesser degree).
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RarianRakista
10:51 AM on 06/09/2010
Just wait till the nukes start flying from Tel Aviv and their nuclear-armed boomer submarine. Than things will get real interesting when the US finds itself handcuffed to the equivalent of a school shooter foaming at the mouth shouting conspiracy theories and racial epitaphs.
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10:03 PM on 06/09/2010
They have had nukes since the late 1950s, wouldn't they have used them by now if they were bent on their neighbors annihilation??
12:13 AM on 06/09/2010
Syria is defending itself. US bases in Turkey are closer to Syria than El Paso is to Truth or Consequences. About an hour's drive. More people are killed in the drug related violence each day in Mexico than is going on here. So what is difference between the weapons and drug tunnels running under Calexio and Mexicali than the ones Israel gasses and bombs? Not much. At least Israel is taking action and what does Obama do about the tunnels. Nogales, Calexico, El Paso. Nothing.
12:12 AM on 06/09/2010
solid analysis..
israel had a few good chances to have a peace deal with the Palestinians, but they always thought that they can get away with no peace . big mistake..long term, israel collective madness will be a burden to all, not onl the middle easterners, but the world at large.
Europe had also a chance to bring in Turkey in the "fold' and as such perhaps permanently keep Turkey in the west's arm, but the Europeans, primarily the French and Germans did not want a Muslim state to be part of Europe..effectively telling the Turks you will never be one of us... a message that the Turks will chew on for decades to come. Strategically the Turks are in good shape for now, and the Europeans are much less needed.
01:48 AM on 06/09/2010
Not to mention, Germany and France do not want to lose the monopoly they have in EU by letting Turkey in - who would be the second majority because of the huge population of 75million.
11:12 PM on 06/08/2010
Israel's madness is obvious. But then again so is the madness of our blind following of Israel.
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sistersuperior
union made
11:12 PM on 06/08/2010
Great article. Would love to see more analysis at this level. It really does help understanding.
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Red Herring
Retired Miner, living in third world
01:32 PM on 06/09/2010
Read the Asia Times, Pepe is there all of the time as well as other well informed writers.
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sistersuperior
union made
11:40 AM on 06/10/2010
Thank you for good tip.
10:31 PM on 06/08/2010
Excellent article,much too nuanced and probably true to ever make it to air or paper in the US.You have lost the plot my good man.Whatever your opinion of the blockade,denying adequate food medicine and especially education reeks of a disgusting triumphalism and lack of humanity.I believe you about trying to destroy any Turkish brokered deal as the other ships were not boarded by rabble hanging from a helicopter,but more civilly.Your remarks on their poor performance against Hizbollah are germane as this was a "crack" rabble unit subdued by broomsticks.I am fully against the non-arms embargo and the good ol' USA is fully compliant and cool with it.They are a beaten people and can be denied arms but not food and medicine.If it were reversed the tv would burn our retinas off with the outrage.
10:28 PM on 06/08/2010
Part of it was of course to send a clear message to Turkey because of the meddling in the Iranian sanctions. The other part of it was to drive a wedge between Turkey and Washington. Sadly Clinton fell for the wedge part. I believe the term that young people use is that she got "wedgied".
07:40 PM on 06/08/2010
This theory sounds like the plot of a bad movie.

It's actually not impossible. It's just so unlikely that it's more in the realm of fiction than analysis. Paranoid fiction. Nobody is smart or strong enough to pull off such complex plots.
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Downtown
08:05 PM on 06/08/2010
it's called international politics and that's what goes down every day
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TakeSake
The United States for All Americans
11:43 PM on 06/08/2010
Perhaps not a plot as much as the natural alignment of interests in one way or the other.
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Freenation
07:39 PM on 06/08/2010
***applause***
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Fein
Either everybody counts or nobody does.
05:29 PM on 06/08/2010
Great article! We need more 'non aligned' insights like this!
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Eric Ehrmann
Blogs on sports and politcs from Brazil
05:10 PM on 06/08/2010
As I said in my article here on Huff Po that appeared yesterday, the human rights business is not an equal opportunity employer. The reality is that the US-Israel dual loyalty lobby is using this peace flotilla dustup as a distraction issue from other fallout from globalism, namely the economic crisis and by buzzing up the flotillas you too risk becoming one of the Davos lap dogs. The quantity and enrichment level of uranium that is required to detonate an explosive device is exponentially greater than what Iran has. As for Israel, your prescription will eradicate the State of Israel. Do you have a problem with Jews?
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Peter Noble 2
06:03 PM on 06/08/2010
I didn't read this article/blog as anti-Jewish. Would you care to explain?
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Downtown
06:26 PM on 06/08/2010
wow, kneejerk paranoid reaction much there bucko?
04:58 PM on 06/08/2010
Now that's the shameful and ugly truth.
04:47 PM on 06/08/2010
Extremely well researched and adequately quoted.

Thanks for sharing.
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Richard Pearce
Atheistic-agnostic Canadian polymath
04:45 PM on 06/08/2010
There was a lot of talk about 'a new world order' when the demands of the old one overcame one ot the members, and the USSR collapsed.

Of course, the US thought that that NWO would have the US sitting firmly on top, and nobody daring to try and complain.

It seems to me more likely that the NWO is going to be centered somewhere along what I call the swoop (Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Iran, and I may have to start adding Turkey), and there is a bit of joustling for position going on.

And of them all, it seems Iran is likely to come out on top (it has both energy in abundance, room for its growing population to spread, doesn't suffer from the braking effect of having to fix up the slums, deal with a crumbling infrastructure, and is already urbanised, with the rural areas not being major backwaters).

It also seems to be tired of putting up with the mad dog routine, and might take advantage of Israel's missteps in the handling of this situation (and the US complicity in those missteps) and actually challenge the mad dog to take a bite or back down.

And if it does feel the time has come to muzzle or tame the beast, it faces pretty much a win-win situation.
04:44 PM on 06/08/2010
Looks like all you HuffPost ultralibs are on the fring on yet another issue. Congrats.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/israel_the_middle_east/49_say_pro_palestinian_activists_to_blame_in_gaza_ship_incident
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Richard Pearce
Atheistic-agnostic Canadian polymath
04:57 PM on 06/08/2010
Remember, the majority of Americans believed that Iraq was involved in 9/11 too.

With the almost relentless pro-Israeli commentary, I never expected anything else out of the US.

I also remember that the US was one of the last holdouts on South Africa, so nothing new.

But here's a newsflash for you, the US dream of ruling the world has run smack into the dreams of those countries below 40N to see a world where they have a voice. And as we saw at the NPT review, they are winning.

If it comes down to it, are the American people going to choose to open a third war (and this one with lots of casualties right off the bat) over an Israeli blockade of humanitarian aid, especially if it means a full retreat, under fire, for those first two?
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Rianna
06:22 PM on 06/08/2010
I agree. I am not surprised at all, about this poll. Of course the majority of Americans will side with Israel. All that propaganda, one sided coverage by the media, and the power of the Jewish lobby, has resulted in many Americans feeling obliged to back Israel. The Palestinians have no organized lobby, finance, or backing from the media. Israel is perceived as a terrorist country, by many other nations, and the US is known for supporting it.
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05:16 PM on 06/08/2010
'Ask the audience' is hardly a plausible way to determine the truth here. Most of them are brainwashed by Fox, Beck and guarded statements coming from the WH. Nor are such polls even reliable anymore.