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07:35 PM on 07/11/2010
This issue makes me so mad whenever I think about it. How are we even talking about raising the retirement age while this 693 billion ton elephant is in the room?
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07:26 PM on 07/11/2010
Making any cuts is a start....but where's the budget for 2011...hmmmm? Why don't you elected officials take a pay cut, and cut your office/staff expenditures during these difficult (for us) financial times. Why not freeze all federal hiring, and freeze pay raises until the recession is over.... You should all go home and talk to your constituents... (if you have the courage) ...they'll explain that there are MANY ways to save money.... and the first is to STOP SPENDING WILDLY!
08:00 PM on 07/11/2010
The point of the article is that "STOP SPENDING WILDLY" should include the military budget. All the Congressional pay cuts and staff reductions would amount to less than a modern fighter plane.
07:21 PM on 07/11/2010
Barney Frank and Ron Paul have it right. Their plan to reduce military spending will actually enhance our security. Their proposal should be published widely.
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valboski
06:50 PM on 07/11/2010
No more congressional "military engagements. Declare war as the Constitution calls for.
07:23 PM on 07/11/2010
'Congressional'?!?!? Seems like for the past 50 years the PRESIDENT has been the one instigating American involvement in war - with or without Congressional approval.

Why exactly did we invade Panama? Grenada? Iraq?
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muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
08:06 PM on 07/11/2010
xrepublican, (wish I would have thought of that screen name) well in Iraq we were hunting for those pesky WMD that someone said they had...I understand that they "MIGHT" be found in Venezuela. Last week the US came out and said that Venezuela was a terrorist country...The USA has now open 7 new bases on the Columbia/Venezuela border (this makes for 707 Military bases worldwide...(I was stationed in one of those bases in Germany and it was unbelievable the amount of tanks and armament the US has there )
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19825
http://www.coha.org/unsettling-revelations-regarding-u-s-lease-of-colombian-military-bases/
> If you will notice in the first link there are 11 US warships going thru the Suez canal some say on the way to Iran....never ending war
06:15 PM on 07/11/2010
This is exactly the type of voices that aren't heard enough! Lets turn our comments and concerns about government spending into the real visible world, via a map.
www.wilsonsmap.com
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Longtimeliberal
06:08 PM on 07/11/2010
lONG OVERDUE! When Bush slashed all the consumer protections/regulations were done he used them to reward military friends, giving no bid contracts, funding more programs as well as direct military spending. General Gates wants to stop spending on several very expensive defense contracts but congress is bucking him. We spend more on the military than all other countries and as with any large corp or agency has waste but in this is a giant waste.
05:05 PM on 07/11/2010
We are like the Energizer bunny:
going
going
hoops...
gone!

Do you know father who would starve own children to feed children of someone else? That is exactly what our politician did to us. I must say they did it with their tummy and pockets full.
How gulible our people were all this years?
05:01 PM on 07/11/2010
Hurrah! Now, how are you going to persuade the rest of Congress to go along with you? Actually, "We the People" should be calling our representatives, and if that doesn't work we should be taking our message to the streets. The typical mind-set in Congress is "it's too big to fail." I say bring our soldiers home from Iraq and Afghanistan first, and put some of the military, who probably cannot find other jobs, to work on our infrastructure; put others on our borders. Of course, the merchants of death will cry foul beacuse their profits wil tumble.
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Longtimeliberal
06:13 PM on 07/11/2010
You are right. Congress is even trying to block systems DOD doesn't want. We will have to call our congressmen.
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harveyr2
Be skeptical of politicians or be their pawn
04:59 PM on 07/11/2010
Government spending on everything must be cut. The amount of fraud is appalling. ABC news says that federal and state governments OVERPAID unemployment benefits in 2009 by $7,100,000,000

(see http://abcnews.go.com/Business/underemployed-overpaid-states-shell-unemployment/story?id=11118137 )

And now they want more of our money through health care reform, cap and tax, etc.

NO WAY. Our government extorts more than enough money to do what it needs to do. Now spend it wisely!
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Molon labe
05:11 PM on 07/11/2010
Cut Gov. spending 6-8% per year for the next 4yrs, across the board (minium) and cut taxes 5-6%.
At the same time get out of the way of bussiness and we will suddenly have a growing economy producing jobs. It's not complicated.
06:36 PM on 07/11/2010
No one is in the way of business. If you really want to get out of the way of business they will send every freaking job to china as if they haven't done enough as it is. I should know I work in IT.
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Longtimeliberal
06:15 PM on 07/11/2010
The problem is congress. Agree we need to spend on regulators, needed military-not extra but eventually we all have to address social security and medicare. These, as well as military are the long time driver of costs.
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Molon labe
04:59 PM on 07/11/2010
Barney Frank is a dispicable.... a liar and a cheat and should be shuned.
He has, as a single individual, done more damage to our economy than anyone I can think of.
Quote:
".....we will do substantial damage to our economy and dramatically reduce our quality of life."
The gall of this guy, no shame.

He has proven himself reckless and dangerous. Due to his involment in Freddie and Fannie, he should be wearing an orange jumpsuit, a year ago.
05:59 PM on 07/11/2010
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Frank#Fannie_Mae_and_Freddie_Mac
Some bit of balance on Fannie and Freddie.. Of course you always forget to mention Bush's expansion of low income mortgage loans.
http://money.cnn.com/2004/06/17/real_estate/lowcost_housing/index.htm
You forget to mention the Bush JD campaign to keep State AG's and the FBI from investigating Mortgage Fraud by PRIVATE Banks and Mortgage lenders.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-k-black/the-two-documents-everyon_b_169813.html
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Longtimeliberal
06:18 PM on 07/11/2010
You know not what you speak and don't even know the facts. Fannie and Freddie are the fault of both parties and don't believe otherwise. Republicans have targeted him and use talking points but if you watch congressional hearings you will see that all is not as FOX news says. Without real information it seems over the top to say such inflamatory things about something you don't know anythings about.
04:55 PM on 07/11/2010
We must increase Military spending the influence they have in our politics and the Defense Contractors have in our economy. We need to double the Army and construct new Military bases to create jobs in every town in the country and build Carriers to help the ship building industry, jeeps for the auto industry and planes for aviation.
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grainysmith
I heart worms
05:53 PM on 07/11/2010
You must be joking. Military spending is the reason why we are going broke as a nation. 1 of every 3 dollars that is spent goes to privatized companies. The old way is not working anymore. I would much rather have better education and health care then being the bully around the world. Please try and use a little more common sense.
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Longtimeliberal
06:20 PM on 07/11/2010
I also assume that was sarcastic. About 2 days ago a big story broke about the military contractors in Afganistan who left without paying the Afgans for work they did causing more insurgency and problems for our troops.
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getbackjack
04:36 PM on 07/11/2010
The sad fact is...The only real power America has left, is military. We certainly no longer possess the industrial power, which was once the envy of the world. Nor are we the technological juggernaut we once were. Our educational system is sub-par. Our economy is moribund. And our moral authority, has long since gone by the wayside. So without our vaunted military, we would be as irrelevant as Japan is in this Brave New World!
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getbackjack
04:51 PM on 07/11/2010
I'm sorry, I mis-spoke that should read Scared New world!
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05:08 PM on 07/11/2010
Or, perhaps, as irrelevant as Norway, Denmark and Sweden; an irrelevancy devoutly to by wished.
03:30 PM on 07/11/2010
Great news!

Unfortunately it's like grade school where the kid who helps the lunch lady dress the desserts and the kid who wears a uniform on 'free dress day' to be different agreed on something.

Now only if the normal kids would join them at their lunch table...
05:33 PM on 07/14/2010
Warmongers are "normal"?
03:26 PM on 07/11/2010
We still have troops stationed all over the world, including Europe. Let them protect themselves from the Russian bear, if it's not just a paper tiger anyway. We need the money!!!! here not overseas where we are doing national defense for countries fully capable of creating and sustaining their own military to protect themselves. I just don't get it. We don't actually occupy these countries but they can spend their tax dollars on their own social programs while we continue to spend our taxes protecting other countries while our infrastructure crumbles and our highly skilled and educated workforce languishes in unemployment lines, or works several part time jobs with no benefits so we can keep protecting the Afghan warlords? They are called warlords because they like to make war. Maybe if they called themselves peace lords I might have hope but each and every one of them only wants absolute power and uses weapons to keep it. We are out of our mind if we think we are going to change their way of life
05:06 PM on 07/11/2010
We are like the Energizer bunny:
going
going
hoops...
gone!

Do you know father who would starve own children to feed children of someone else? That is exactly what our politician did to us. I must say they did it with their tummy and pockets full.
How gulible our people were all this years?
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PRONESE
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03:25 PM on 07/11/2010
OK, Fine!
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Mr Frank, Lets Close:
Hanscom AFB
Natick Center
NAS South Weymouth
DIS Boston
Westover AFB
Otis ANG
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Mr Paul, Lets Close:
NAS Corpus Cristi
NAS Dallas
Fort Hood
Fort Sill
Fort Sam Houston
Dyess AFB
Randofph AFB
Brooks AFB
Sheppard AFB
Goodfellow AFB
Bergstrom AFB
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Lead by Example. Close these bases in your States first. Then face your constituents.
Or is it NIMBY?
R/ PRONESE
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04:45 PM on 07/11/2010
I'm wondering whether you feel as strongly that US manufacturing plants are closing and jobs are disappearing to other countries? Many of those installations that you speak of are boondoggles that developed over many decades; they produce nothing of a tangible nature, we don't need them all. My choice is to spend more money on productive enterprises and less on encouraging a capacity for more death and destruction in reaching goals.

A good plan would be to close those installations that we really don't need. As each is fazed out, new subsidized start-up production facilities could replace them.
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Longtimeliberal
06:26 PM on 07/11/2010
Fanned
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Codefile
Does anybody know the tab to that song?
05:50 PM on 07/11/2010
You are correct of course.