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10:07 AM on 09/10/2010
As they say, "you reap what you sow".
10:05 AM on 09/10/2010
Oh how hilariously tolerant most of these comments are.
01:15 PM on 09/10/2010
gary - maybe you tolerate evil but I have a hard time with evil. I thiink you had better ask yourself if you really are folllowing what Christ said or what the popes over the millennia say he said.
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Carroll27
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01:29 PM on 09/10/2010
I'm sure you're up in arms about jihad.
KennebunkportIndependent
Back in my day, we had NINE planets.
01:43 PM on 09/10/2010
The Catholic Church is hardly a shining beacon of tolerance.  You do your church a disservice, garybob.
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Carroll27
Orthodox
09:58 AM on 09/10/2010
This isn't spontaneous. We've seen people whip up hostility for several weeks now. Heck, I've seen it on this website. Now ... what? This is newsworthy? The Pope makes a visit, certain groups oppose it and try to whip up a hostile response to his visit, and suddenly it's worth an article?
02:34 PM on 09/10/2010
As worthy as any other item on this "religion news" page.

Most of the world is religious and religions are natural enemies to each other.

And this leader is the head of an organization which protects pedos.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
03:46 PM on 09/10/2010
Pope Nope!
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EthicalJournalist
09:49 AM on 09/10/2010
I can't imagine what the Pope hopes to gain by this visit, except resentment over the expenditure of tax dollars, if one can call that a gain. I also can't imagine what the Queen intended by inviting him. I can't imagine that, after 800 years, she feels the need, as head of the Church of England, to reconcile the two churches anymore than they have been by various ecumenical moves over the last 25 years.

Maybe it's one of the holy mysteries the RC Church likes to talk about. Certainly, it's a mystery to me.
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Seaniebhoy
09:57 AM on 09/10/2010
What's funny is nobody complained about tax dollars when Jacob Zuma and Robert Mugabe came to London...red carpet and all for them
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gappedtoothgodwarrior
10:30 AM on 09/10/2010
Yes life's unfair, but there you are.
KennebunkportIndependent
Back in my day, we had NINE planets.
01:50 PM on 09/10/2010
It is all part of an attempt by Rome to cash in on the move to the liberal  left by the Anglican Church.  The CofE may be declining in membership but its wealth is immense (as is the simmering anger of the Catholic Church over Henry VIII's little schism).   The Pope made an open overture to Anglican priests upset over women and gays to join his flock.  It is no secret that Benedict views part of his mission to propagate the faith and reclaim lost sheep.  Call it a hankering for 'Papal Lebensraum' by this former Hitlerjugend.
09:31 AM on 09/10/2010
During the reign of John XXIII (1958-1963) there seemed to be the beginnings of a real reform within the Catholic Church, which could establish a much more humanistic, tolerant religious body. The very suspicious death of John Paul I (reigned for 33 days in 1979), and his succession by the reactionary Popes John Paul II and especially Benedict XVI, has put an end to these hopes. There will not be a liberal resurgence--the liberals have either left the Church or lost interest in it. The Church appears doomed to remain an intolerant backwater.
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nlightenup
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01:36 PM on 09/10/2010
There are still a lot of liberals and progressives in the RC Church, especially in the US and Latin America, who are far from giving up hope for the future of the reforms. I like to think that the current and future attention to Benedict's role in protecting pedophile priests will work in favor of the next pope being at least moderate, if not liberal (in RC terms, of course).
02:12 PM on 09/10/2010
This isn't a phenomenon just confined to Catholics. The momentum these days is on the side of the religious conservatives.
KennebunkportIndependent
Back in my day, we had NINE planets.
01:52 PM on 09/10/2010
Ask yourself why Hannity and O'Reilly (and much of Fox News folk) are conservative Catholics.  You may see a pattern.
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MyNameIsKarsten
...sounds like Chewbacca when he yawns.
09:05 AM on 09/10/2010
Let's hope the British give him hell.
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gappedtoothgodwarrior
09:23 AM on 09/10/2010
They're more likely to give him apathy, most of the British public don;t care about the visit and would have preferred it not happen, especially considering the cost involved.
08:03 AM on 09/10/2010
While it is clear that today there is protest rallys for every public event, it is to be expected the Papal visit will have it's counter forum. I do not expect his visit will be subject to a "Hostile Audience". This is wishfull thinking on the part of his detractors and anti-catholics. The United Kingdom is 14% Catholic not the 9% quoted in the article,(8,461,803) which will lead to a crowd similar to those in the United States made up of thousands apon thousands trying to get a glimpse of the Pope. For many a once in a lifetime experience. The Catholic Church is the Largest Growing Christian Church with greater than 1billion followers worldwide, Pope Benedict has repeatedly met with victim groups and apologized over and over. For those that love him this is unnecessary for the protest-er-ants-ostics. Nothing will ever be enough.
When the leader of those 8 million British Catholics arrives - who really owes who the apology.
From the creation of the United Kingdom1707 discrimination existed against Roman Catholicism as the Treaty of Union stated a protestant succession to the throne and the civil rights of most Catholics severely curtailed.The Papists Act 1778 which allowed Catholics to own property, inherit land and join the army, resulting in the Gordon Riots in 1780, by 1829 the political climate had changed sufficiently to allow Parliament to pass the Catholic Emancipation Act, giving Catholics almost equal civil rights, including the right to vote.
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GeorgieMark
Cogito Ergo Sum
10:29 AM on 09/10/2010
While I do agree with much of the history in your message I think that the public will be apathetic at best.
KennebunkportIndependent
Back in my day, we had NINE planets.
01:54 PM on 09/10/2010
Snooze.  I'm off to the pub to watch Sky Sports on the big screen.  Can't stand men in dresses.
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JohnFromCensornati
Wake up! It's 1984.
07:01 AM on 09/10/2010
Arrest him!
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Seaniebhoy
09:58 AM on 09/10/2010
For what exactly? Not being warm, cudly or secularist?
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Stroodle
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10:15 AM on 09/10/2010
For intentionally covering up the rape of children across the world. That not good enough for you?
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GeorgieMark
Cogito Ergo Sum
10:31 AM on 09/10/2010
there was talk of launching a civil lawsuit against him during his UK visit. I think that idea was eventually dropped.
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07:00 AM on 09/10/2010
Anti-Catholic bigotry has long been public policy in Britain. Why should anyone be suprised at their hostile reception of the head of the Catholic Church?
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Seaniebhoy
10:01 AM on 09/10/2010
I agree...the entire post-tudor history of Britain is on the back of war with Catholic Nations and laws that kept Catholics as second class subjects. There is a history of fear of the Vatican and of the Pope that has carried on for more than 5 centuries.
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gappedtoothgodwarrior
10:32 AM on 09/10/2010
You probably think James II had the backing of the Poe during the Glorious Revolution don't you?
06:58 AM on 09/10/2010
there will be protests but the media are whipping this up . . . as usual
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Titanshanks
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02:15 AM on 09/10/2010
It's interesting that when Christians and others criticize Islam it's for the tangible problems that sometimes come from Islam--stonings, suicide attacks, sexism, etc.

When Muslims get angry, from what I've seen, it always seems to be because of a personal offense. I've never heard a Muslim bring up to organized rape of children in the Catholic church.
04:36 PM on 09/10/2010
I have heard of revenge gang rapes by muslims in athganistan and pakistan
04:36 PM on 09/10/2010
And of course the vicitim of the rape is then charged for being raped
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02:00 AM on 09/10/2010
I'd turn my back on him too, but for my youthful figure.
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gappedtoothgodwarrior
09:26 AM on 09/10/2010
In Bennys case I think he prefers then a bit Clooney/Grantesque:

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Maezeppa
Happy-Happy Joy-Joy
10:41 PM on 09/13/2010
If "Bennys" is possessive and not plural, you need to use an apostrophe.  "Then" is the wrong word, apparently.  What did you actually mean?  I raise these matters for your benefit, to aid you in your struggle to attain literacy.
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Talismancer
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01:33 AM on 09/10/2010
The evidence against the Pope is overwhelming. The vatican should be stripped of statehood (well done Geoffrey Robertson!) and the pope should be arrested. It's time this crumbling artificer of evil be removed.
06:59 AM on 09/10/2010
ditto Talismancer
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Carroll27
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09:59 AM on 09/10/2010
Why don't you go ahead and try?
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Stroodle
Coolin' by the lockers getting kind of funky
10:35 AM on 09/10/2010
He should be arrested. You would be too if you covered up the injustice that he has
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12:57 AM on 09/10/2010
It will be fascinating to see how the British media and the US media cover the Pope's visit.
12:45 AM on 09/10/2010
So, he's facing a hostile audience. And there is also this, Jesus, the Lord whom he claims to
represent:
And do not call anyone on earth your ‘Father,’ for you have one Father, he who is in heaven. 10 Nor are you to be called ‘Teacher,’ for you have one Teacher, the Christ. 11 He who is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted. Matth. 23:9
Logically Jesus did not tell or appoint anyone to become HOLY FATHER!
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Carroll27
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10:00 AM on 09/10/2010
Likewise, Jesus said not to call anyone Father, Teacher, or Rabbi.

What is another name for your dad?
10:18 AM on 09/10/2010
It's amazing how people interpret that verse out of the context of what Christ is talking about (empty/false titles; love of power/prestiege). Which is why Christ shows us that a Christian leader must first be a servant of the ones he leads. Hence another title of Benedict is Servant of the Servants of God. Not a lot of fundamentalists can understand hyperbole.