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Thecla
Normal People Are Boring
10:25 AM on 01/04/2011
I said this a couple of weeks ago during the discussion on Texas schoolbooks. It is time for the colleges and universities in this country to get serious with local schoolboards about the quality of books, cirriculum, and teachers. We are simply sending our kids to college unprepared.
There is a 100% chance that the University of Virginia, Virginia Tech, et al., don't teach this revisionist history crap! Neocons can control what is taught to their kids on a local level in public school, that's certainly true. But that is NOT true at the collegate level.
A Fundamentalist who believes that the planet is 7,000 years old and that dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time is in for quite a surprise when they get into their science and history core cirriculum classes required for graduation and they can't pass. And, in fact, want to argue with the professor that they are teaching "heresy" or simply run out of the class in tears. I've seen it happen. Spring 2010 in my Environmental Science class. That girl was mortified. Her world had been shattered.
Colleges and universities do not simply pass students just to push them through the system, as is now all too common in K-12. And these incorrect textbooks now in the hands of our young students are dangerous and unhealthy for the future of our country.
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drsolo
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10:33 AM on 01/04/2011
I teach at a northern catholic university and I teach science including evolution and never had a student argue with me. I find it rather odd, actually. Altho I do talk to them about science vs pseudoscience and use creationism as an example in the first day of class.
11:31 AM on 01/04/2011
Not surprised you haven't seen it. Those students are sent by their closd minded parents to Oral Roberts University, and Liberty Universityand other centers of lower learning. Once they get a degree they come home and run for public office and people like my neighbors in Western Maryland vote for them, and send them to Congress.
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10:36 AM on 01/04/2011
Colleges and Universities need to stop accepting kids from states like VA, TX, etc... that use bad text books. Once the schools stop accepting them the books will get corrected.
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M Cubed
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10:42 AM on 01/04/2011
In Texas it is a systemic problem. In Virginia, it is a problem with a single fourth grade textbook. False equivalencies. Virginia has some of the top schools in the nation, nothing like the wretched Texas system.
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I once had a Crysknife
It's spelled right!
10:46 AM on 01/04/2011
But democrats believe every person in the western hemisphere has the right to college education. How can you now deny it to kids who, through no fault of their own got the wrong textbooks?
10:24 AM on 01/04/2011
"He who writes the past owns the present. He who owns the present controls the future". I wish I could remember who said that.
10:54 AM on 01/04/2011
George Orwell in "1984, we've been seeing him quoted quite a lot lately.
11:15 AM on 01/04/2011
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
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Wizer
Raleigh for Moral Monday
10:24 AM on 01/04/2011
A reminder that the Dept of Education is on the chopping block by the newbies who were just elected. They are going to have more freedom than ever before to put out for consumption a conservative, lying version of history
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Lizzy28
Too bad he's got a mop instead of a wand.
10:45 AM on 01/04/2011
Bingo.

And if they succeed, the right-wing-super-propaganda will grow even stronger and more dangerous.

*fanned*
11:43 AM on 01/04/2011
No. The ignorant conservatives had the most freedom to screw up the country under the shrub's administration when they controlled everything.
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MikeElPaso
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10:15 AM on 01/04/2011
Sure it's important to get the dates right but seems to me that more emphasis is placed on the date WWI ended than what caused it, the harm that it did and how it could have been avoided.
10:20 AM on 01/04/2011
Agreed, and that's partly why most students find history class so dull and boring.... if they were more involved in the how's and why's, rather than the memorization of dates and names, I think far more students would be interested and involved.

F&F.
10:21 AM on 01/04/2011
When you're teaching your students, yes, that would be a more effective way of educating them. But we're talking about the textbook here, the facts are basic and should be correct in the book. How can you launch a discussion of history without the basic facts straight first? Despite what Fox News would have you believe, facts aren't fungible.
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MikeElPaso
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10:33 AM on 01/04/2011
"the facts are basic and should be correct in the book."

No disagreement there Clemgo
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10:41 AM on 01/04/2011
Sure the teacher will just fail you if you do not believe the nonsense they spew.

When I took a History Class in HS, I had transferred from another school and was in AP World History the new school did not have AP courses, anyway the teacher referred to the US Civil War as the War of Yankee Aggression and well just made up facts about History.

If you disagreed you failed.
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anpu
I strive to be neither a con or lib, but correct!
10:09 AM on 01/04/2011
Education is the front line to freedom. If you want to take away a people's freedom, provide them with improper information and put them at odds with each other. It is easy to teach somebody the wrong thing and EXTREMELY DIFFICULT to help a person unlearn something that is wrong. Texas is doing it and apparently anybody can write a history book in Virginia. Divide the people over what is right/wrong, truth/lie, and proper/improper and watch the conflicts rise! Divide and conquer is the oldest trick in the book.
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M Cubed
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10:10 AM on 01/04/2011
apparently anybody can write a history book in Virginia

No, this might have been the case of the lowest bidder. Or it could have been some choice of the Dept. of Education .
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kareemachan
watashi ha tororu ga oroka da to omoi masu。
10:37 AM on 01/04/2011
Only if it was the Virginia DoE. The feds had nothing to do with choosing this publisher's book.

'Five Ponds Press provides books mainly to the Virginia Department of Education. The department is required to find texts that meet the state's stringent Standards of Learning, which includes lists of themes that each textbook must cover. That disqualifies many books produced for the national textbook market.'
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anpu
I strive to be neither a con or lib, but correct!
06:21 PM on 01/04/2011
The lowest bidder scenario does not make me feel any better and it does not answer the question, "who is writing the books?" How does one get selected to write a particular book? Do you need specific credentials? Was the internet the main source of information for writing the book? There are too many conceptually wrong statements and errors and too few answers involving the process for writing and selecting a book.

Information contained in books shape ideas, help form concepts, lead to world views, shape morals etc. I personally believe that the authors of educational books, as well as those that select them, are aware of the impact books have on our youth. If books and the information contained therein were not important then the Nazi's would not have burned books, the Library at Alexandria would not have been burned, the Library of Baghdad would not have been destroyed, and the destruction of Mayan tablets would have been avoided.

Writing educational books should not be treated so cavalierly by businesses and politicians and nor should we be idle in our reaction to such incidences.
10:07 AM on 01/04/2011
The problem begin with the state board of education. Election to the board is based more on politic than education accomplishments or experiences in education. In Texas, your ideology and political party trump qualifications. Unfortunately this is true in many other states. The real question is why someone like this individual would be given the task, rather than experts, to write a text book.
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From the Raft
10:18 AM on 01/04/2011
The same rules relating to sexual predators should apply to politicians when it comes to the distance they must keep from public schools!
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george6090
America can be better
09:58 AM on 01/04/2011
Isn't all history an interpretation at best? People are always reinterpreting history for their own benefit or point of view. No one ever learns anything from history, we just keep doing it over and getting the same out come. People keep looking to the past to solve the current and while trying to figure out the future. You need new thinking, the old trickle down is just that, trickle down. It is not going to solve today's let alone tomorrow's problems.
History it fascinating and not much use, since we never learn from it. All I have to say is: Iraq, Afghanistan.
10:22 AM on 01/04/2011
The date WWI ended isn't really open for interpretation.
10:33 AM on 01/04/2011
"Isn't all history an interpreta­tion at best?"

Total nonsense. First comes the facts, THEN comes the analysis of the facts. No real history is made up.
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Hugh Briggs
Bass-Fu Master
09:57 AM on 01/04/2011
Ahh, so this is how the GOP gets their version of history..
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Wizer
Raleigh for Moral Monday
10:04 AM on 01/04/2011
Also how they spread their version of history.
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harmlesstree
Psychohistorian
10:20 AM on 01/04/2011
Ironic..given the confederates used to despise the GOP, until they took it over!
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Andrew Wojtkowski
Physengrammer
09:57 AM on 01/04/2011
Incorrect dates and spelling errors? Oh no.

Has Englin ever read a textbook in his life, especially a History/PoliSci text? They're riddled with inaccuracies.
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rakrobn
10:13 AM on 01/04/2011
Yeah, incorrect dates in a history textbook, no huge deal, right?
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progressivegreg
Scotty, beam me up
09:45 AM on 01/04/2011
Here's a win/win solution for the publisher and Virginia. Send the books to Texas, the school board there doesn't care about accuracy.
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Cacey
Ignore rudeness, honor discussion
09:41 AM on 01/04/2011
America will soon loose its greatness unless we have a truly national system of education which mandates teaching the same thing from the same text books in every district in the country.  To be sure, some time should be left available to instruction in areas specific to a given state or region but given the transientness of our people and the needs of our nation, the Department of Education needs to be strengthened and empowered.
10:10 AM on 01/04/2011
You've still got to make sure that the books are accurate. My opinion? Take a narrow subject; find all the books you can talking about it. Separate the wheat from the chaff...oh, sorry, I forgot...that's illegal in a lot of states...including the United ones.
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Bundenthal
09:40 AM on 01/04/2011
Always check to see if David barton is involved in the revised histories. While historians can disagree and have conflicting theories, Barton simply lies/alters quotes or facts to support his fundamentalist political objective.
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M Cubed
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09:48 AM on 01/04/2011
Barton also has a cute game that he plays--he is at the point in his career where he is making serious money. He uses the money to purchase privately-owned manuscripts and documents that were written by leading personalities in American History. He likes to pull them out and show them on the GB show and on the lecture circuit. But they become part of his own private library.
Why is this bad? Because he can now "quote" from these documents, and because he owns them, other researchers and historians have no way of cross-referencing what Barton says the documents say. He has the only copies.
Goes against everything professional researchers and people who love transparency and open sources support.
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From the Raft
10:24 AM on 01/04/2011
Interesting. Who's to say the documents aren't fake?
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10:42 AM on 01/04/2011
I just googled him, and threw up a little.
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IHateTheGOP
Morals do not require belief in the unbelievable
09:38 AM on 01/04/2011
I guess that if you're s southerner, you have to change history to better cope with the embarrassment of being a southerner.
09:42 AM on 01/04/2011
I'm a southerner, I'm not embarrassed by it, and I don't feel the need to change or revise history. Why would I be embarrassed?
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IHateTheGOP
Morals do not require belief in the unbelievable
09:48 AM on 01/04/2011
Well, for one your history. Two, your present voting patterns. Three, your attachment to the the Government teet while decrying Government. Four, all the stats that show you last in every good measurement yet first in every bad one. Five, need I go on?
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IHateTheGOP
Morals do not require belief in the unbelievable
09:49 AM on 01/04/2011
Oh, by the way, you got your rear end kicked in the Civil War. Wanna try again?
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09:54 AM on 01/04/2011
Here is one to ponder...if it weren't for the south America would have fewer laws on the books becasue they would be unneeded in the civilized world, all the laws they hate are a direct result of southern actions.
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okim5150
I only drink to make you more interesting
09:37 AM on 01/04/2011
Were these books published in Texas?
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MG Metiva
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11:38 AM on 01/04/2011
YES!
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NotFooledByDistractions
09:36 AM on 01/04/2011
At least Virginia is taking action, unlike TX that deliberately rewrote history and boldly moved forward. On what planet are Newt Gingrich and Phyllis Schllafley more important historical figures than Andrew Jackson? Only in TX.
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IHateTheGOP
Morals do not require belief in the unbelievable
09:39 AM on 01/04/2011
There is one thing that really is bigger in Texas. The ignorance.
09:55 AM on 01/04/2011
Please don't think all Texans are as ignorant as those involved in the textbook revision fiasco. I'm a Texan and I'm angry that my tax dollars are to be wasted on subpar educational efforts. I was lucky enough to be able to put my kid in private school. I feel for the poor kids who are getting educated on opinions and not actual facts.
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MG Metiva
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11:39 AM on 01/04/2011
The phallises are bigger in Texas's neighbor Louisiana.