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JCCross
10:15 PM on 01/28/2011
You know... we always TALK a good game, when it comes to Democracy - but, when it comes to putting our money where our mouths are... suddenly we're very hard to find. Once again, we support Democracy, that is, until push comes to shove.... then we back the dictator!
10:27 PM on 01/28/2011
JCCross,

The American government thinks Democracy and Socialism is fine back home, but out there, NO WAY.

It's not a recent thing either, the US has been overthrowing democratically elected leaders in:

Nicarargua, Cuba, Hawaii, Iran, Iraq, Vietnam, for over half a century.

If you are American, you should be ashamed of yoursleves.
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LeftLeanWing
Do I Have to be Nice ?
11:09 PM on 01/28/2011
We didn't overthrow any democratically elected Leader in Iraq...  the balloting for Saddam was Fixed.....  Vietnam.....  that was a civil war we got in the middle of.

Cuba what Democratically elected government did we overthrow ?

Iran...  yeah... sho'nuff...

HAWAII------  WTF ?
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10:13 PM on 01/28/2011
I'd like to see some receipts, how was the money being spent to promote democracy if in fact it actual was at all ? How many times have we heard about funds being derailed and spent elsewhere ? If we could just buy Democracy why didn't we instead of spending over a trillion dollars in Iraq ? I'm sure Obama will get raked over the coals for this either way. It's what we do best.
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sharmaine73
I Love Music!..and Giraffes (Clearly)
04:20 PM on 01/29/2011
I laughed when I first read your post and saw, "I'd like to see some receipts". The first thing that came to mind was Whitney Houston.

I agree with you though. But I think we are in the minority.
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ginger42
Just the facts, ma'am--Sgt Friday
10:12 PM on 01/28/2011
As with all foreign relations situations, it is NOT a black and white issue. People on the left AND the right can fault both past and present actions. I'm just glad Bush/Cheney are no longer in charge or How many more wars would be in?
10:28 PM on 01/28/2011
Your country is built on wars and blood. Shame on you people.
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ginger42
Just the facts, ma'am--Sgt Friday
12:08 AM on 01/29/2011
As, unfortunately, are almost ALL countries. Can you name one that isn't?
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jimpager
10:11 PM on 01/28/2011
President Obama speaks to a million people of Egypt's Democracy Movement. He's widely hailed. Two year's later, with America exporting inflation all over the world in the form of a worthless dollar, the Egyptian people revolt. Obama gets his 3:00 am phone call. The Democracy Movement needs him...But wait, Hosni Mubarak is on the other line.

Waffling.

So Mubarak calls out his undercover police thugs, bloodies a bunch of Democrats, jails a Nobel Laureate, and soon there are dead.

More waffling.

Mubarak goes on TV and says its all his cabinet's fault and has an instant layoff. We'll form a new government manana, oops, I mean tomorrow, and we'll have real reform this time.

We've heard manana stories before...f­or 30 years.

By now the Islamic Brotherhoo­d has joined the Democrats in the streets driving them together like frenzied lovers. Obama has lost the initiative in Egypt forever.

By waffling, Obama has chosen. Mubarak will fall. But Obama chose Mubarak, and his successor, over the Democrats. Sound familiar?

After all, we can't have destabiliz­ation on Israel's border just as Israeli planes are taking off to hit Iran. (See Wikileaks doc-Israel­i general preparing for war)

President Obama's choice, the military solution over the democratic solution. So much for the brilliant speech. Now Obama has a track record to explain.

With debt ceiling rising again, there is more inflation to be exported, more street riots to be dealt with. I hope we're ready for the next 3:00 am call(?)
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sharmaine73
I Love Music!..and Giraffes (Clearly)
02:18 AM on 01/29/2011
what? How is what is happening in Egypt Obama's fault? And just speak plainly. What are you getting at?
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jimpager
09:54 AM on 01/29/2011
Sharmaine,

Not his fault no, though America's economic instability has led to an economic climate that is, and will, cause unrest and destabilization in Tunisia, now Egypt, the less wealthy European countries, and elsewhere around the world. There will be more of these.

I'm asking for a decision...Stand with the Democratists in the streets and against Mubarak or stand with Mubarak against the Democratists...Make a decision...Don't try to have it both ways. Because in the end, you cannot have it both ways. You just destroy your own credibility. In this case, I would like to see the Democratists unseat Mubarak, hopefully WITHOUT the Islamists gaining power. Obama should call for Mubarak to step down and schedule free elections. The longer NO DECISION is made, the closer the Democratists and the Islamists become. They are now in the streets together. That's NOT the way this started. If the Islamists gain power, this will be a problem for America in the middle east going forward.
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ginger42
Just the facts, ma'am--Sgt Friday
07:37 AM on 01/30/2011
Wow. Such conclusions you have jumped to
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jimpager
10:27 PM on 01/30/2011
Ginger,

Any specific conclusion you disagreement with?
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10:09 PM on 01/28/2011
Well he had to make cuts if he was going to give the banks $2 trillion! They were broke for gods sake. What were we going to do if all the free market capitalist also got on the unemployment line!
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breakingpoint
War is a Racket - Smedley Butler
10:08 PM on 01/28/2011
now cut the US tax payer $3Billion funding to Israel
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sharmaine73
I Love Music!..and Giraffes (Clearly)
04:16 PM on 01/29/2011
I wish I could favorite you 5 times. Like we have money to give away....