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02:42 PM on 06/06/2011
After reading many of the blogs on this issue; the current Republican value system becomes clearer than ever before. I have read a number of Rand's books, and appreciate her artistry as an author, but find her philosophy to be stark and cold. I have found that those who love God and country wish to do their part in helping both God and country grow. I remember reading a book years ago that suggested all decisions be made based on the question, "What would Jesus do?" I can't remember the author, but the message of that book stayed with me throughout the years. I guess that means I am not a fan of Rand's political philosophy.
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11:44 AM on 06/06/2011
Ayn Rand was just a sore-head Russian intellectual. I think living as an academic in the Russian state would probably turn most people off to cooperative agendas. But neither her writing nor her philosophy is much respected among writers or philosophers Reading her books is like being in some never-world of rational automotons; strangely vacuous of what we would call normal human motivation. My suspicion of Ryan is that he actually thinks Rand was a great writer or thinker, and not just some cult figure among pubescent rationalists. Do I want this man making decisions for me in Washington?
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Red Leaves
Well, well, what matters it? Believe that too.
10:15 AM on 06/08/2011
"Do I want this man making decisions for me in Washington­?"

That hardly matters. The people who voted for him did.
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Paul Robertson
06:30 AM on 06/06/2011
So we don't hate the Ryan budget because it robs the poor and gives to the rich; we hate it because it was inspired by an aheist. Is that right?
DrSnuggles
You label me and I'll label you
09:40 AM on 06/07/2011
Right? Well done to these people - I thought, based on the headline, they may point out that this draconic budget goes against the purported teachings of Jesus to be compassionate and love thy neighbor. But, nope, the budget is bad for Christians because the inspiration has different religious beliefs.

Great.
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Social Construct
Go left, young man.
06:29 AM on 06/06/2011
As an atheist, Ms. Rand and I would have some serious issues. Her survival-of-the-fittest dogma notwithstanding, she just generally gives us folks without religious faith a really bad image. And, I really can't wrap my head around the paradox of the religious right siding with Randian thought. Oh well, it's a crazy ol' world, ain't it?
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dubbleplusgood
Occupy Your Brain
01:02 PM on 06/07/2011
Thankfully she doesn't represent atheists. Technically no one does since it's impossible. You can have people who discuss it, write about it, and advocate for it, but in no way are they representative of all atheists.
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Paul The Octopus
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09:49 PM on 06/05/2011
This article is bullock! Trying really hard to give atheists a bad name by false association? Very honest of you "liberal christians"!
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Alice Radley
Post hoc ergo propter hoc
01:27 PM on 06/06/2011
I think you mean "bollocks" :)

But you're correct. I, as an Atheist, do not want to be associated with Rand.
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GraphicMatt
Some people take the microbio way too seriously.
03:12 PM on 06/06/2011
Perhaps he was referring to JMJ Bullock of the early '80s sitcom Too Close For Comfort? Although that would make no sense.......of course the jab at "liberal christians" doesn't really make sense either though.
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dubbleplusgood
Occupy Your Brain
11:14 AM on 06/05/2011
"The atheist philosopher and novelist Ayn Rand..."

Absolutely ridiculous article produced by the "Religious News Service".

Atheism is not a philosophy. It is not even a belief or a religion or a dogma. Ayn Rand may have been an atheist and she may have been a philosopher but she was not an atheist philosopher.
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Bob Wood
A.T.C.G...(sigh)
12:58 PM on 06/05/2011
You are so right. My high school 8th grade english teacher said that this why there's such a thing as punctuation. One wee comma saves the day..." The atheist, philosopher, and novelist Ayn Rand..."
I note quite a lack of punctuation...or caps...and spelling on the net...( sigh )
DrSnuggles
You label me and I'll label you
09:42 AM on 06/07/2011
There's a lot wrong with this article; but this may be getting a bit nitpicky. There are raging debates on what you can class atheism as, which is fine.

But no one can deny that 'atheist' is an adjective.
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Red Leaves
Well, well, what matters it? Believe that too.
10:43 AM on 06/05/2011
"More than 6,000 people have signed a petition asking Ryan to put down Rand and pick up a Bible, according to Kristin Ford of Faithful America, a left-leaning online group."

Where the heck do these people get off? How dare they? I don't like Ryan one bit, but I would never have the gall to tell the congressman what he should or should not read.
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Occupy Your Brain
11:18 AM on 06/05/2011
Recommending someone read the bible instead of atlas shrugged, is like asking someone stop stepping on your right foot and start stepping on your left.
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Ellis Weiner
04:37 PM on 06/05/2011
Normally I would agree with you, but in this case, I feel absolutely no compunction about telling Ryan, and everyone else, to read my parody of Atlas Shrugged, to be found here:

http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/54707

Find out what happens to John Glatt, Dragnie Tagbord, and the rest of the demi-god gang ten years later. All the bombast, twice the pretension, and only 1/15th the length.
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Red Leaves
Well, well, what matters it? Believe that too.
10:43 AM on 06/05/2011
Why is there such a hullabaloo over this? So Ryan has read a book that other people don't like. So what?

Having read both the Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged, I cannot really climb on board with all the Rand-bashing on this thread. Ayn Rand was not a monster by any stretch of the imagination. She was just a woman who did not believe those she considered the "best" in society should have to sacrifice themselves for the sake of others; a sort of quasi-Nietzschian perspective. She was not a perfect human being in my estimation. She did glorify selfishness, but you know what? People were already doing that before Rand wrote her books. The only difference between them and Rand was that Rand actually came out and said what she meant in an honest manner.

Though I am not an "Objectivist" or hardcore libertarian, I appreciate Rand's works, if for nothing more than two reasons: The first was that it got me to open my eyes to a secular perspective of the world, which eventually lead to my becoming an atheist. Her arguments against religion are some of the best that I have read, along with those of Bertrand Russel, Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens. The second is that it provides an argument in favor of free market capitalism. Now, how sound that argument is is up for debate. But these are things that need to be discussed, debated and argued.
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Social Construct
Go left, young man.
06:35 AM on 06/06/2011
Good statement. However, concerning Rand (which I've tried to read some, many, many years ago but couldn't. Not my cup of tea.) I can only agree, admittedly ignorant, that she may have been honestly stating her beliefs. But I do agree with the Hitchens kudos.
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09:15 AM on 06/05/2011
Ayn Rand is not in denial now. She is with and for the Lord.
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Red Leaves
Well, well, what matters it? Believe that too.
11:19 AM on 06/05/2011
Which "Lord" is that? Shiva? Krishna? Zeus? Odin? Ra? On what basis do you make such claims, sir?
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dubbleplusgood
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11:20 AM on 06/05/2011
Allah of course, silly. ;)
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11:46 AM on 06/05/2011
In the Shaiva tradition of Hinduism, Shiva is seen as the Supreme God. In the Smarta tradition, he is regarded as one of the five primary forms of God.

Krishna is often described as an infant or young boy playing a flute as in the Bhagavata Purana, or as a youthful prince giving direction and guidance as in the Bhagavad Gita. The stories of Krishna appear across a broad spectrum of Hindu philosophical and theological traditions.

In Greek mythology, Zeus is the "Father of Gods and men"

Odin is a major god in Norse mythology and the ruler of Asgard.

Ra is the ancient Egyptian sun god.

Jesus is Lord.
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almostlyniceguy
Not young enough to know everything..
02:16 AM on 06/05/2011
Of course the Catholics are going to say to screw the little guy. They have been doing little guys wrong for many years.
09:24 PM on 06/04/2011
Just to notice, that is the actual Ayn Rand, the other guy is white decolored depiction of someone that if existed should actually look like this.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Rs-HrhSZD_c/S7H8bJa5nXI/AAAAAAAAAt8/iF-lkWrZOXY/s1600/Jesus-Christ.jpg
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dubbleplusgood
Occupy Your Brain
11:21 AM on 06/05/2011
but Jesus was a white American....
01:34 PM on 06/05/2011
two excellent points...."if existed.." and looked like a Semite
07:49 PM on 06/04/2011
Was the confusion that Ayn Rand was a staunch atheist or that she was a staunch capitalist?

Firstly, I don't understand how these things are related.

Secondly, perhaps this (embarrassingly tardy) discovery will help illuminate the discrepancy between Jesus' loathing of wealth and individualism and the fundamental ideologies of capitalism. However, if a reading of the Bible hasn't done this by now I suppose this is too much to hope for. That Rand's atheism is disheartening is awfully sweet, but if you want a pure Republican economical model there is no better bible than Atlas Shrugged. Sorry, boys. You can't have it both ways.
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ChicagoKev
08:16 PM on 06/04/2011
I fear the Christians in this case are either uninformed, or misinformed. The 2012 budget proposal and the bible's teachings are not mutually exclusive for the reasons they give.
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gemmax
09:59 AM on 06/05/2011
What a ridiculous statement. Apparently you do not think that people of Faith possess any political savvy or education. Just one more prejudice.
06:26 PM on 06/04/2011
So this is the tact that l.ib.er.a.ls are using to push socialism.

Not gonna fly. Who cares what you think?
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Uncle Bob
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10:43 PM on 06/04/2011
So you're an atheist then?
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almostlyniceguy
Not young enough to know everything..
02:18 AM on 06/05/2011
Your powers of argument are impressive. What distinguished institute of higher learning imbued you with your awesome skills?
05:10 PM on 06/04/2011
As an outspoken atheist I want to make it clear that Ayn Rand and her policies are in no way representative of atheist or even the way most atheists feel about social and political issues. In fact, many of us contend that Ayn Rand's social policies are as irrational as many religious doctrines.
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Uncle Bob
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10:44 PM on 06/04/2011
To be fair, Ayn Rand's economic policies are a representation of atheism. In the same way that Hitler's policies was a representation of people with mustaches.

There is SOME correlation.
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almostlyniceguy
Not young enough to know everything..
02:20 AM on 06/05/2011
Well said, Uncle Bob.
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Drash
I'm kind of a big deal
04:11 PM on 06/04/2011
Rather amusing that the new patron saint of the far right was a chain-smoking feminist atheist adulteress who later in life was dependent on social security and medicare.