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Leninist
Vermonter
03:46 PM on 06/13/2011
Only here in America do we have folks trying to destroy decent wages for others for a fair day work...just bizarre...
03:54 PM on 06/13/2011
It's really bizzare. Well said!
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verylargehat
03:40 PM on 06/13/2011
In the show "All in the Family," there is an episode where Archie and Edith celebrate their final mortgage payment.

There was a time in this country not that long ago when a family could afford to own a modest home with a single wage earner who worked a blue collar job.

This would be impossible today. You can thank unions for giving people the means to a piece of the dream back then.
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drumz
The less you know the more you believe.
03:54 PM on 06/13/2011
And the ignorant cons think that everyday blue collar workers like teachers and retail workers (they have to put up with so much abuse because they have to sell such garbage nowadays and everyone wanting something for nothing) are being greedy when wanting a decent wage.

Why don't they ever look at management as unions do and say hey, you are paying management way too much so you need to cut the cream there before you go after the guy trying to raise his family while performing a needed service? How are they good managers when they always first cut the lowest paid? Isn't that the easy way out and a sign of laziness you cons always rail about? It's easy to fire the guy below you but how about the do nothing manager (bosses cousin, brother girlfriend) above him wasting company dollars?

Blaming unions is a simplistic cop out, something cons are notorious for.
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verylargehat
06:26 PM on 06/13/2011
I don't consider teachers to be blue collar. They are education professionals with master's degrees and education credentials.

But I agree with your sentiments about blaming unions. On this and so many other issues, people are so quick to look down to the least among us when they ought to look up first.
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unionfreeisme
02:06 PM on 07/06/2011
Yep, all those union leaders are in prison now. Just go goggle union corruption....

5 years ago we were at our all time home ownership in USA. At a time when Unions were at their lowest percentage in Decades. Now even worse. 94% of the workforce is Union Free
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yoozum
I hate double standards.
03:37 PM on 06/13/2011
I'm a little confused as to how this is news. He hasn't actually started a union, admits that less than half of people are interested, and says it might catch in a few stores. That's a lot of maybes.

"There's a lot of hesitation to want to speak about it," he said. "I don't think there's 50 percent (support) in any one store but as people talk about it, we could get close in a couple of stores."
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Andrew Wojtkowski
Physengrammer
03:49 PM on 06/13/2011
It's HP. If there's a shred of something "Progressive" it's posted and trumpeted.
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silverstreet
All you need is love
03:53 PM on 06/13/2011
Or something people -- Americans -- might be interested in. The majority of jobs in America are low-wage jobs with few benefits -- so it stands to reason, that a lot of Americans would be interested in this story.
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Nevervotesrepublican
Congressional Approval... 5%
03:36 PM on 06/13/2011
Good for him. I'm sure a knowledgeable Apple salesperson brings in a ton of money selling Chinese manufactured, high tech products. Why shouldn't they get a decent living wage.
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Andrew Wojtkowski
Physengrammer
03:28 PM on 06/13/2011
You work in retail.
You've failed at life.
You're at the bottom of the barrel.
You're at the bottom of the food chain.
or
You're in college.

People who don't try/succeed at life want what everyone else has. But they don't want to work to get it. So they unionize. I believe unions have a place, but that place isn't EVERYWHERE.

The only thing this is going to do is increase (significantly) the price of retail stores. Which will make it even MORE insane to not buy online, which will force retail stores out of business even FASTER than they are now. And you will be without a job.

How will those job benefits help you when you're unemployed?
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drumz
The less you know the more you believe.
03:31 PM on 06/13/2011
Wrong. I might actually buy a Apple product if they go union. Why is working at anything a failure to you cons?
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Andrew Wojtkowski
Physengrammer
03:51 PM on 06/13/2011
That's kind of pathetic that a company's union status would make you buy from their stores if it cost more money.

Actually, working at anything is the exact opposite of a union. In most industrys, you get what you work for. Work hard, get rewarded. I've done it. Others have done it. It's not that hard, but it does require you to lift a finger.

Some people have never done that in their entire life, so I can see why some fail to comprehend.
03:55 PM on 06/13/2011
I don't know if Andrew is a conservative, but I usually encounter that sort of disdain for service and blue collar work coming from liberals not conservatives. It has happened to me several times on this site when I suggested more students should enroll in trade schools instead of college.
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silverstreet
All you need is love
03:42 PM on 06/13/2011
I just bought a MacBook and was impressed by the knowledge, intelligence and courtesy of the staff. At this particular store in Manhattan, these young people (they were young and college educated) bring in millions -- every day. They deserve more of the pie.

It's not just because of the computer, I went to the Mac store because I knew I would get great service from intelligent and helpful people.
allforfoot
The "Right" is always "Right"
03:25 PM on 06/13/2011
I am so sick and tired of hearing how unions work for "workers rights" when only 13% of the workforce is unionized. What about the other 87% of us. Do you libs think that we are abused and exploited in our workplaces because there is no union present? Here's a news flash, we are just fine. Get a life and stop all this "need for unionization" talk. It kils our economy. Period.
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Sacchinftw
Isn't it sad...?
03:30 PM on 06/13/2011
Why are you against the First Amendment?
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drumz
The less you know the more you believe.
03:32 PM on 06/13/2011
Con greed is what's killing our economy along with the ignorance you hold so dear.
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Andrew Wojtkowski
Physengrammer
03:53 PM on 06/13/2011
Yeah... pretty sure the only people complaining about greed and abuse are the people without jobs.

Do you see what's wrong with that picture?
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Michael Valentine
Retired SEIU Member
03:19 PM on 06/13/2011
Either you support the right of working people to unite and negotiate a living wage or you support a corporation's right to labor at a non living wage.

Support working class Americans or go somewhere else.
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Andrew Wojtkowski
Physengrammer
03:30 PM on 06/13/2011
How about supporting people getting off their rears and striving for higher than retail?
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silverstreet
All you need is love
03:47 PM on 06/13/2011
We're talking about Apple employees -- who are hired because of their knowledge and education. We're talking about fairness. These professionals (yes, they are professionals) bring in millions -- I mean, each store brings in millions. They deserve a LIVING wage. They aren't saying anything that is not reasonable: a living wage.
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09:55 PM on 06/13/2011
What a foolish idea you have. If everyone strives for white collar jobs then who would stock our grocery stores, grow our produce or butcher our meat?

Retail and blue collar jobs are the drivers of our society and we should respect anyone willing to do it as a career.
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drumz
The less you know the more you believe.
03:33 PM on 06/13/2011
F&F
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rwextthoughts
slowly the swamp is draining
03:17 PM on 06/13/2011
next thing you know the paid NONUNION HP staffers will want to organize
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rjlwis
03:15 PM on 06/13/2011
Go for it, Cory! It takes a leader to show the way.
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03:15 PM on 06/13/2011
Right. Employees are not "parts" in a store schedule.

BZ.
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03:11 PM on 06/13/2011
bring apple manufacturing to the u.s.a. union or non union , quit supporting chinese government kick backs to ignore labor abuses.
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el postino
03:10 PM on 06/13/2011
LMFAO
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muellerwurst
03:09 PM on 06/13/2011
yeah goodluckwiththat
allforfoot
The "Right" is always "Right"
03:03 PM on 06/13/2011
Unions put an unnecessary divide between the employer and the employee. I've never worked for a union. I've had jobs I've liked and disliked. When it's the latter, I would quit and find a new job. Only 13% of the employees in the US belong to a union. It seems like the other 87% are doing fine with the employee/employer relationship. Unions are an unnecessary and divisive wedge and should be outlawed. They provide no product and no real benefit to their members. If they did, the would not make membership mandatory or force dues from thier paychecks directly. The do this because they know no one would pay the membership bill if they sent it in the mail. Face the facts lef.ties. Unions are about to be a footnote in history.
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rjlwis
03:16 PM on 06/13/2011
With that attitude so will worker's rights be history.
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Michael Valentine
Retired SEIU Member
03:21 PM on 06/13/2011
If you had your way the American middle class will be a footnote in history.

Why the hate for working Americans?
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Andrew Wojtkowski
Physengrammer
03:32 PM on 06/13/2011
HP is turning more and more into the lefty's Fox News every day.
03:03 PM on 06/13/2011
how about you kids get a better job? if you are worried about benefits and getting paid, dont work retail!
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Michael Valentine
Retired SEIU Member
03:22 PM on 06/13/2011
Are jobs falling out of the sky where you live?

After Republican corporate pigs sent our jobs to China where are they to get a job?
04:18 PM on 06/13/2011
nope, but id work in a restaurant before retail.
martman1
retired business owner
03:49 PM on 06/13/2011
Brilliant.......like they never thought of that?