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Justmyopinion
11:59 AM on 06/26/2011
What does that tell Obama about his illegal war ?
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12:50 PM on 06/26/2011
Nothing. It tells him congress is wishy-washy. They didn't say they didn't want the U.S. there they just wanted the President to ask their permission but he didn't and they STILL will give him the money to stay. If it is illegal then congress is aiding and abbetting.
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Steelsil
Warren/Grayson 2016! Yes We Can!
02:56 AM on 06/27/2011
That the bulk of the opposition to it is pure political theater.
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Justmyopinion
11:58 AM on 06/26/2011
Stop funding ALL the wars and bring the troops home.
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PC Contrarian
Political Correctnes­s is the opiate of the left.
11:43 AM on 06/26/2011
And here's an even bigger "slap in the face" to Obama,
from none other than Farrakhan:
http://www.mrctv.org/blog/louis-farrakhan-obama-thats-murderer-white-house
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Under Fed yet Fed Up
Feeling sorry for Democrats and Republicans alike
11:14 AM on 06/26/2011
It's rather refreshing to see a vote taken in the House that was not predetermined. Legislators are actually getting a voice in government. What a novel concept!
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democrats for life
republicans need not apply
10:51 AM on 06/26/2011
the baggers need to be slapped for voting in the gop in November. the baggers are going to end up tanking this country
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Under Fed yet Fed Up
Feeling sorry for Democrats and Republicans alike
11:11 AM on 06/26/2011
How will we be able to tell the difference?
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freddychef
Tue,4 Nov '14 Dems take House! & Majority Senate!!
11:03 PM on 06/26/2011
as a small business operator, you will find out.
unless your actualy a corp, saying you're a small business. then all is good.
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DANIELISTICALL
This post will self destruct in 5 4 3 2
07:57 AM on 06/26/2011
CUT FUNDING??? What funding? there NEVER was any request for funding and there is none planned,,, so just what does he plan on cutting off,,,,,,,???? total nonsense brought to you by the Republican Party
The real tragedy is that no one will remember that Obama was acting within the presidential powers enhanced by the Bush administration they will just remember the phony baloney Republican smear campaign against their own country which this is really just a publicity stunt for the republicans
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OldGent
Alwayswatchin
04:44 AM on 06/26/2011
Sorry, but just have to say this. A slap in the face to Boehner is like him getting a spanking because is head is up his....
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truly moderate
Independent, Center-Right
03:09 AM on 06/26/2011
At the current time, our involvement in the Libyan "mission" isn't so much a left wing or right wing issue. Its much more of other quadrant of politics, authoritianism vs libertarianism/liberalism.

I support the president, and I do believe our mission in Libya was justified because we are supporting a UN MANDATE as well as a NATO LED mission. We are acting as a democractic force as part of the bigger international community, and Gadafi did bring this on himself. He had PLENTY of warning and was given dimplomatic solutions, which he rejected. This is not like the 48 hour Saddan mandate. Gadafi had 4 weeks to come up with or accept an existing diplomatic plan. His own greed and dictatorshipism fueled his heart and he misled his people. He also used unnecessary for against civilians.

Now I do agree President Obama must carefully weight whether REMAINING involved in this conflict is in our country's best interest. If we had already exited Afghanistan, I would say the choice would be much much easier to just withdraw from supporting the Libyan mission. However, as we RELY on NATO in Afghanistan, NATO relies on us in Libya. Ultimately I want to see the US removed from all 3 missions/conflicts, but we must do so in a logical matter, and AFGHANISTAN must be our first priority in getting the troops home!
07:53 AM on 06/26/2011
Everything you describe as justification for the destruction of a sovereign nation is only one side of the story. The facts you base your opinion on are just propaganda perpetrated by a small minority of Libyan rebels that may or may not be alqueda terrorists. You are as easily manipulated as the the UN wants us all to be manipulated. What you have posted here should be of greater worry to all Patriotic Americans than anything going on in Libya.
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12:55 PM on 06/26/2011
You didn't understand the post. Read again about the UN Mandate as it relates to our treay obligation to the UN. Facts are facts.
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csnyfan13
E pluribus unum
02:05 PM on 06/26/2011
"I support the president, and I do believe our mission in Libya was justified because we are supporting a UN MANDATE as well as a NATO LED mission."

That is why the Republican'ts are in opposition. THEY want us to be a sole power not acting under the authority of anyone else. THEY refuse to see that this is a world-wide issue and that our actions or inactions will have world-wide effect, possibly alienating many.

"He had PLENTY of warning and was given dimplomati­c solutions, which he rejected."

True, Gadafi had an opportunity to surrender. Giving him the opportunity to surrender is a humane thing to do. However, that he did not comply with the option provided him means that he brought the repurcussions upon himself.

"Ultimately I want to see the US removed from all 3 missions/c­onflicts, but we must do so in a logical matter, and AFGHANISTA­N must be our first priority in getting the troops home!"

I believe most people around the world have similar desires. That is correct IMO - we must do it logically. To do it otherwise would leave a void in the conflict that could be filled by a person or persons wishing harm upon other, and with a willingness and capability to carry it out.
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truly moderate
Independent, Center-Right
12:41 AM on 06/27/2011
With some exceptions (like Mccain) a lot of Republicans DO take the American exceptionalism to mean us only...or at the least the US and NATO allies only (to include the Aussies).

While I think NATO should obviously be a priority, and while the UN can at times not handle situations as they should, its in the US's best interest to try and work with both the UN and the international community on conflicts and dimplomatic issues whenever possible.

To me American exceptionalism doesn't mean The US and its tight knit allies are better than all of you. To me it means the US along with its closest allies are exceptional in that we are leaders of international democracy and therefore having that responsibility we cannot ignore issues that other countries would turn a blind eye to.
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trafalgar50
discerning peace warrior
01:06 AM on 06/26/2011
Gaddafi is responsible for killing 190 American Citizens on Wednesday 21 December 1988 as well as 80 others when he ordered the bombing of Pan Am flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scottland. The part I don't understand is that these same people in the House of Representatives voted almost unanimously to attack Saddam Hussein who never attacked us. Let's not let facts get in the way of politics.
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LastAngryWoman
waiting for godot
02:50 AM on 06/26/2011
It's something in the water. Or the seeds we grow our food from.
This sort of suicidal mission we seem to globally be in on...collectively.
Screw science, facts, truth, honour, duty, responsibility for community.
Screw it all...in the name of capitalism, wealth, and power.
I got mine, so bugger off, is the mantra of world.
07:56 AM on 06/26/2011
And we blasted apart his home fired missles into Libya and killed his daughter. If that were not enough for us then we should have done more 33 years ago. The international community and the US govt. was satisfied with their pound of flesh and Gaddafi eventually was welcomed back into the civilized world and was making progress toward being a productive rehabilited leader.
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mangoaddict
01:03 AM on 06/26/2011
Obama and Hillary are right on Libya. Clinton failed to go into Rwanda and look what happened there? The Libyan people were pleading for the international community to come to their rescue. Many on the right felt that Obama had waited too long to intervene. Gaddaffi is responsible for the Lockerbie bombing. He deserves to go down for that alone. When you consider the position of Reagan and Cheney on South Africa during the apartheid years, they were proven wrong. Cheney was one of only two members of Congress to vote against a resolution calling for Mandela's release from prison. He also voted against the sanctions that were very instrumental in bringing down the apartheid regime - a vote that Reagan vetoed. To Reagan's shame, Congress had to override his veto. Obama is doing the right thing in Libya. History will treat him well on this one.
07:59 AM on 06/26/2011
THe majority of the Libyan people are pleading for Nato to stop bombing them to death. The minority lead a revolt in one or two cities the rest of the country wants all this destruction to stop and for them to get back to having the highest standard of living in NAfrica.
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01:09 PM on 06/26/2011
That's just false. I see Al Jazeera here in Baghdad every day and the Lybian people are wondering why the U.S. isn't doing more. Not NATO, the U.S. The ones pleading about the bombings are from the current regime. It's not a minority revolt. It's largely a peoples revolt and they are badly equiped but they are doing what they can against all odds. And it's two or more MAJOR cities. Highest standard of living with one of the lowest rates of civil rights. That's what the entire conflict is about.
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A dean89
10:11 PM on 06/25/2011
So any military ops needed to obtain the seal of approval by the US congress? The commander in chief's authority seems slightly trumped in this matter.
Anyone tell me a bit pleasee
08:02 AM on 06/26/2011
He has a maximum of 90 days to get congressional approval. In the US the war powers are given to the congress in our constitution. His 90 days ended 7 days ago and he thumbed his nose at congress and said "I don't need permission from congress" he thinks somehow the UN is now in charge of our country.
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HaroldHeckubah
In search of the perfect Micro-Bio
08:13 PM on 06/25/2011
So, the real headline is, "House Does Nothing" or "House Continues Playing With Itself", or "435 Idiots Listen to Sounds of Own Voices". I wish I could make $200K a year to harrumph for 5 minutes at a time.

Actually, this is really difficult for me to consider. I hate, and I mean really hate Gaddafi because the sister-in-law of a close friend died in the Lockerbie bombing. I would stab the man in the neck and hold the knife in front of his dying eyes. However, in this time of Islamic despots slaughtering their citizens, what role should the US assume? We can't be everywhere and solve every problem. Overall, I think we should at least be engaged, as we are in Libya, rather than have the Russians or Chinese come to the rescue, in spite of the cost. Not for the oil or for any return of favor, but because we should live our values. If we believe in democracy, and Libyans are willing to die for democracy as we did 225 years ago, I think we are honor-bound to find a way to support the effort.

But, I will abide by what is decided by my government, which I helped to elect, and the 300 million other Americans who have done the same. Maybe one day that government of mine will stop all the dead-end motions and actually decide something.
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Justmyopinion
07:52 PM on 06/25/2011
The vote was  295-123 with 70 Democrats abandoning the president. Glad to see some Democrats that stand up for the right thing. The war in Libya is wrong!
08:50 PM on 06/25/2011
Gadhaf is scorned by leaders throughout the Arab world. Remember, the United States is not alone in this NATO is involved.
08:07 AM on 06/26/2011
NATO is 90% the US.
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Justmyopinion
07:45 PM on 06/25/2011
Stop funding all the wars. 
Why didn't Obama mention the 56,000 troops that are still in Iraq in his speech the other night. Did he forget about them?
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exPatPatti
Eyes Wide Open
07:27 PM on 06/25/2011
Where was all this republican constitutional anger when Reagan did it?
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Justmyopinion
07:53 PM on 06/25/2011
Reagan passed away years ago.
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LeftLeanWing
Do I Have to be Nice ?
11:17 PM on 06/25/2011
His Brain passed away while he was in his 2nd term.
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saileyboy
living on land sucks
08:13 AM on 06/26/2011
Yes, forget history - the mantra of the right.
09:15 PM on 06/25/2011
Are you serious? Reagan was elected president almost 30 years ago. Give it up. That argument might hold water if he was elected a few years ago.
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mangoaddict
01:05 AM on 06/26/2011
Then why do the right keep holding him up as their role model. He is like a saint to them.
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LastAngryWoman
waiting for godot
02:53 AM on 06/26/2011
Please list one, just ONE potential GOP candidate who DOESN'T mention Reagan and his godlike "wisdom".
Cmon...just one...then for fun...we can all google together and meet back here with our vid clips and quotes proving you WRONG.