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08:07 PM on 08/26/2011
Then they will know how much time they(the doctors) will have to perform expensive and useless tests.
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southingtonian
"I'm a Capricorn and you can't make me do sh*t.."
01:58 AM on 08/27/2011
one of the reasons for the search for more accurate predictions is to AVOID useless testing.
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Raboom1
03:18 AM on 08/27/2011
I'll tell your family that when it's your time. See what you think about that.
07:24 PM on 08/26/2011
Just die after you have contributed to the system for many years the money is needed for wars overseas.
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Ira Meyers
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07:22 PM on 08/26/2011
To lighten this up....Dr. give a guy 6 months to live, he says "I can't pay the bill" Dr. gives him another 6 months.
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Giovanni Pivirotto
06:56 PM on 08/26/2011
Cancer cells dying after hemp oil is introduced, video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xABHbQ-P0d4&feature=related
02:46 PM on 08/27/2011
Do you know the difference between "in vitro" and "in vitro"? Look it up!
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Giovanni Pivirotto
06:53 PM on 08/26/2011
Another video you should watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSXhwP5QjUQ&feature=related
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Giovanni Pivirotto
06:49 PM on 08/26/2011
Maybe there already IS a cure of cancer. Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0psJhQHk_GI
06:48 PM on 08/26/2011
The "Score" allows the doctors to distance themselves so they blame it on the "Score".

Ex...oh YOU were the one who scored low, so its YOUR fault that you're gonna die.... its not because us doctors been working on curing cancer for the past 100 years and even $50 trillion later we dont have anything to show for it. We just spent the money on BMWs and hookers.
01:28 AM on 08/27/2011
Are you freaken kidding me?
06:32 PM on 08/26/2011
For the most part it simply benefits the hospitals etc. so they can get as much money out the patient before they kick off.
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GrantS
I'm liberal through and through.
06:53 PM on 08/26/2011
I'm cynical about alot of things as well but not this one. End of life is serious stuff and people want good answers.
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coolmaiden
I fight right-wing bullies
01:48 AM on 08/27/2011
Seriously, this is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen. I work in a MICU. We get many dying patients. We are the largest money pit in the hospital.
Perhaps you should spend some time in an ICU with dying people and realize what an awful place it is. You wouldn't be so glib if you held the hand of a 90-year-old whose children can't accept that she's at the end. Or a cancer patient in so much pain but their mother won't let them take narcotics because "it makes him too sleepy."
I hope you find some peace.
02:49 PM on 08/27/2011
Thank you for what you say, and what you do.
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mixnmatch
Live like there is no tomorrow
06:22 PM on 08/26/2011
My brother-n-law was just placed under Hospice today...it has been a long hard battle for him and he has never given up...played golf last week at the beach and drove his boat one last time yesterday....Everyday we see him slowing slipping away. All they can say it will be less than a month if that long...
08:29 PM on 08/26/2011
im sorry youre going through such a difficult time. my mom passed away from cancer 3 weeks ago and everything in the article rings true to me. she had a late stage aggressive cancer (she died 4 months after she was diagnosed) and chose to take chemo. i dont know what the right answer wouldve been. i wish maybe she didnt have the chemo and couldve enjoyed, in whatever way, the time she had left instead of being constantly in the hospital. by the time she went to hospice she was bed ridden and so weak she could barely talk. she died 2 days later. there was no time to find out what arrangements she wanted or if there was anything she wanted us to know. time is fleeting. if anything needs to be said it should be done now. i waited too long because i didnt want to upset my mom and i thought there was more time.
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Willow712
democratic socialst
10:43 PM on 08/26/2011
Its only been three weeks. Grief makes one feel that there is something you should have, could have maybe wanted to do. Grief usually includes some guilt feelings that we didn't do things right and its all our fault. That is included in the stages of grief. And if it was a month, or two years, its never enough time. I spent three weeks at my Mom's bedside, thinking, "God, please take her, please take her." then when she passed on, I changed it to, "God, please bring her back, please please please." She knew you loved her and you know she loved you. No matter how we leave this world, that's all that is really important. My good thoughts for your healing. It will get better, trust me on this.
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fancynancy1984
09:07 PM on 08/26/2011
So sorry for your family's loss. I wish him and your family peace.
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AngryCitizen
Politician and Gay Author
06:11 PM on 08/26/2011
As someone who has had to relay news to a relative that their loved one has just either died or been killed, I can tell you there is NO easy way to do it. I once sat in a room full of Doctor;s, police officers, grief counselors and nurses and when it came time to tell an 89 year old woman that her 91 year old husband had been hit and killed by a car, I was the one they all looked at to tell her. It is a sad but necessary duty that one day, we will all have to hear from some person who I hope at least has empathy.
06:06 PM on 08/26/2011
"Health care providers and physicians are really pretty bad at estimating prognoses" Yes they cannot accurately predict when a person will die because they are not God. Only Him can do that. They predicted my Mom had four hours to live, six month ago.
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Willow712
democratic socialst
10:47 PM on 08/26/2011
I'm a hospice nurse. And I firmly believe the saying, "When you make plans, God laughs." I tell family members that I am a horrible judge of how long someone will live. If I tell them its today, the patient will live for weeks. If I tell them to go home and rest, the patient will diebefore they get back. Because at the time before death, we are on God's time. Not man's time.
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Reaganite60
Don't tread on me.
06:04 PM on 08/26/2011
Is this model based on Cass Sunstein's expected life years model? If the federal government determines the number of expected life years after a procedure to not be very high, the patient gets denied coverage entirely. This is done in the interest of bending the cost curve down in saving taxpayer money. In a system of socialized medicine the elderly are cut off first.

Talk about pulling the plug on grandma.
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thinkingwomanmillstone
...I am Siamese if you don't please.
06:31 PM on 08/26/2011
oh of course the insurance companies never deny coverage...they go out of their way to give their patients everything they need. If it cuts into their record profits, it is suddenly an experimental procedure. I just got my son's new insurance premium (I think he went to the doctor 2 times last year for sinus infections) and they raised his premiums 36 percent in a year where they once again set a record profit.
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Reaganite60
Don't tread on me.
11:04 PM on 08/26/2011
I'll explain to you what the difference is.

When a private insurer denies coverage it is because you got sick or needed a procedure done in an area where you elected not to have coverage. It works the same way with other forms of insurance. If you insure your home against hurricanes your are S.O.L. when flooding happens.
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Reaganite60
Don't tread on me.
11:08 PM on 08/26/2011
Also, the reason they raised premiums 36 percent is because the federal government is requiring them to give coverage to those with pre-existing conditions. Who do think bears the brunt of insuring people that are very expensive to insure? Of course they are going to raise premiums and pass that cost onto their clients. They have no choice if they want to remain profitable.
02:54 PM on 08/27/2011
Let me guess. A Sarah Palin fan? Figures. If not a fan. at least you listened to her. Why?
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IfIonlyknew
Go ahead....Say something funny.
06:03 PM on 08/26/2011
I think they already have something like that........A roulette wheel
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eugenemyst
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08:34 PM on 08/26/2011
17 Black!
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Lorenzo&BushH8ter
05:45 PM on 08/26/2011
Have you heard from your friends about how they are being sent for more tests than ever before, these days? The medical profession is desperate for income since no one can afford to see them.
Eat right. Reduce your stress. Exercise.
mgpayne
Trying to make sense of it all
07:35 PM on 08/26/2011
I also think a lot of excess tests are because of all the law suits that are being filed.
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eugenemyst
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08:35 PM on 08/26/2011
I suspect it is also linked to the number of "interpretations" the test results must have. It makes more sense that your own doctor be able to read the results without another doctor chiming in each time.
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abudotcom
Merry Christmas!!
07:49 PM on 08/26/2011
Thank you...
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jeb50
Retired.
05:30 PM on 08/26/2011
Twice when I was hospitalized my family was told not to expect me to make it and yet this post is not coming from a grave. My aunt was told her cancer only gave her 6 months to live. The next three and a half years of her life she 'lived' expecting to die the next day. Doctors are educated but not gods and can be wrong. I will listen to what they have to say but do not consider it carved in stone.