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03:44 PM on 09/14/2011
Our just-us system has many flaws but in it comes to people of color the flaws are endless if troy did not kill that policeman then he will be just another example of a person of color put to death without doing the murder and don't think it has not happen that a person of color who did not do the murder of someone has not been put to death for something they did not do. Before the DNA came along how many people of color was on death row and put to death?
03:39 PM on 09/14/2011
If they go ahead and execute him although the evidence has fallen apart, I think it exposes a much bigger issue, and it's in the same vein as when Dr. Gates was arrested for breaking into his own home. Some superiority/authority is being exacted, at all costs.
06:19 PM on 09/17/2011
20 years? he is already convicted he will be punished for his crime, you make the bed you sleep in it, if it was your kid he killed you would have a different tone.
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Edward Wilkes
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12:30 PM on 09/14/2011
No real Justice in Texas!! God don't like ugly Mr. Perry, and you are wrong for your misdeeds.
06:21 PM on 09/17/2011
It is unappropriate to impose Gods thoughts or opinions. The fed is guilty of many injustices.
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Edward Wilkes
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09:53 PM on 09/17/2011
Thou shall not kill---In the Bible! Why, when they make you take the witness stand, is a person required to place their hand on the Bible? Why do the courts impose on a person a Bible with Gods thoughts contained in it? Now, if you desire; I will say Humans don't like ugly. I cringe at ugly! And if it is too damn ugly, I may have to put the ugly out of its misery!
11:22 AM on 09/14/2011
I completely agree with Reverend Al Sharpton and I cannot understand why Troy Davis is still on death row after all this time. Certainly reasonable doubt is the case here and therefore, this man should not be executed. Time after time, Troys requests for a new trial have been denied and I find the only viable explanation to be emotional or racist. I cannot explain it any other logical way when the facts are so crystal clear. Maybe it is because he allegedly murdered a police officer that the prosecutors are so married to the verdict and Troy's conviction. If he is executed, he will be a martyr against the death penalty; one man who was put to death and was not proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I sure it hope it doesn't come to that though; for Troy and his family's sake because it is just too high a price to pay in this fight when so many have already died, such as Cameron Todd Willingham.
11:12 AM on 09/14/2011
A question from a foreigner who has spent a long time in the US: Why do most US conservati­ves want today, at the same time, to limit the power of government drastically and to give government the power to kill their fellow citizens? Why don't they want the government to administer health and education or to distribute wealth, but they want it to administer capital punishment and distribute death sentences? It's beyond my comprehension. End the death penalty! It's a shame for the US!
04:48 PM on 09/14/2011
you are probably here illegally, and your theory on distributing wealth shows u know nothing about government. look at all the dictators who leave their country in tatters and leave with a few billion dollars of redistributed wealth. two very different subjects, free enterprise and the death penalty. if this guy is innocent, the execution will not happen. if u r so ashamed of the USA, go back to the forsaken place u escaped from.
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Deaconess
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05:54 PM on 09/14/2011
vrosen---light up!
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Deaconess
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05:56 PM on 09/14/2011
vrosen---Lighten up!
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threnodymarch
Art is long, life is short.
05:04 PM on 09/14/2011
I have to apologize for vrosen's comment above. It was shameful and makes the rest of us look bad. You ask a lot of hard questions that do not have easy, or for that matter, short answers. I wish I could answer them. There are a lot of inconsistencies in political doctrine, and Conservatives are no exception. I suppose it's easier to take a life than to sustain one, in the end.
07:33 PM on 09/14/2011
Thank you, threnodymarch! You don't need to apologize. I know that there are many, many people like you in the US... My comment, actually, came from my admiration towards the US. It surprises me that the death penalty has such a big support in a nation so admirable in so many different ways. And I've never been able to understand that the same people that vehemently supports the ultimate empowering of government (giving it the power to decide over life and death) dislikes government so much in almost everything else.
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JimNast
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11:04 AM on 09/14/2011
I was opposed to the death penalty years ago, before a girlfriend was kidnapped, raped, and murdered. We have the technology today to guarantee that only the guilty suffer that punishment. The death penalty should never be applied in cases where only witness testimony, which has proven so unreliable through the years, is available. After one violent crime a perpetrator should be sentenced to life in prison. A second violent crime should result in the death penalty. It should be administered more quickly than the 20 years it currently takes in many cases. Following a policy similar to this would prevent the tragedy that might be Troy Davis, and almost certainly is Cameron Todd Willingham.
10:45 AM on 09/15/2011
you don't understand how the technology affects evidence.

What about crimes that the perp is not violent, but causes violence indirectly? Do you suppose that a con like Bernie Madoff might have caused a lot of violence?

Do you realize the usual effect of the felony murder rule?
11:04 AM on 09/14/2011
Has Al contacted the Governor of Georgia?
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theatregrove
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10:51 AM on 09/14/2011
I am 48, I am white and I do tire of the overly use, "It's because I'm (name your issue)," but I've lived in Texas for 17 years and I'm here to say, if the man were white, this would not be happening. Why? I saw it myself. I am a big band singer and I performed, ONCE, at the Dallas Country Club in the 1990s. Who frequents establishments such as this? Who can afford it? The same people who make our laws. Corrupt Capitalists and dirty politicians. At the time, who could not be a member of this exclusive club? Why, I discovered that in this day and age, African Americans were still prohibited. To confirm this, a week after, it was published in the Dallas Morning News that they had allowed their first Jewish member!!! This is the mind set. A gay male was murdered in a park and the judge ruled that he shouldn't have been there in the first place and the murderer went free. I was once pulled over by a policeman who thought my passenger was Mexican when, in fact, he was my American Indian friend visiting from New York. The officer admitted this!!! No, Don't Mess With Texas. They get irate if you interrupt their cleansing. The sane people of the state need to find another Anne Richards.
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laureenholt
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04:19 PM on 09/14/2011
What in the world does this diatribe have to do w/the impending execution of one Troy Davis in GA, pray tell?
12:21 PM on 09/15/2011
Experience says it all. I'm glad that their prejudice has not turned you away from people of color. It's easy to be a follower..but it is the truth that stands strong. Thank you for, "truth." Troy Davis deserves due process. People's rights are being violated every day. What happened to enforcing our constitutional rights? I don't believe in the death penalty. We should enforce solitary confinement until death, instead of the death penalty.
10:50 AM on 09/14/2011
Rev Sharpton, I know this is not the topic you are speaking of, but we all want to know what Perry did with that stimulus money he took after he was so against the stimulus bill. Where did the money go? Did it help to create jobs that he brags about? Finally, Where are these jobs, Texans can't seem to find them? Please bring that up on your show Politicsnation...we love your show!

PS: Anyone that claps for execution or the execution of an innocent man, needs their head examined as well as the person who is accepting the applause.
03:53 PM on 09/14/2011
GOOD POINT!
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laureenholt
TheConservativeCurmudgeon
04:20 PM on 09/14/2011
Can we stick to the topic @ hand here? Like the execution of Troy Davis in GA?

Thanks.
10:07 AM on 09/14/2011
What does any of this have to do with Texas? This was a murder of a Georgia police officer in Georgia. And the last time I checked, Georgia is not a part of Texas and has it's own state laws in regards to this matter.
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09:30 AM on 09/14/2011
This is one case, where if the facts presented are correct, I agree with Rev. Al.
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wbearl
09:24 AM on 09/14/2011
I'm not aware of this case and know absolutely nothing about it. I would like to know if Sharpton would have involved himself if the individual hadn't been a minority? I have also found it interesting how when an obviously guilty person is found innocent because of a legal snafu, the lawyer and advocates always say the accused was found innocent by a jury of their pears, but when those same pears find them guilty, it is such a miscarriage of justice. My last observation is how often the person demonstrating for Abortion Rights will the next day demonstrate against Capital Punishment. It's okay to kill the innocent but not the guilty. After seeing innocent potentially productive people slaughtered in a couple wars, it's real hard to get excited about guilty mentally defective ones being put to death for capital crimes against humanity.
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Deaconess
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06:26 PM on 09/14/2011
When you criminalize the women seeking abortion, you do not stop abortion---you create a black market. The best way to end abortion is to follow the recommendations from all the studies---which show why people seek abortion and how to reduce those numbers---which include greater access to family planning, helping to stop sexual abuse of children etc, etc. etc. I get so sick and tired of Lifers who do not really give a darn about anyone and do not really want to do the hard work it would take to stop abortions--they just love to be right. And what does abortion have to do with this poor man who has been in jail since 1991 and is facing death?
02:14 AM on 09/15/2011
Who would have thought fruit could deliver verdicts.
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09:02 AM on 09/14/2011
The death penalty gives an end more painless than most of us will experience. I say, let them rot in prison - it's worse. (And if we made a mistake, we can fix it , well, sort of - as if money would ever make up for those lost years and misery).
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laureenholt
TheConservativeCurmudgeon
04:24 PM on 09/14/2011
Rotting away in prison is also WAAAAYY! cheaper for the taxpayer, to boot.

Am all 4 that!
08:56 AM on 09/14/2011
1. as someone who has worked in the criminal court system--I do not want monsters to live out their sentences in prison- there is always a chance someone will champion their case, the mores of society will change and they will be released to hurt/kill someone again. 2. reading this post if the witinesses recanted their testimonies of their own accord and with due conscience then yes this man should have a new day in court-his- 3. however, if this is just a bunch of confusion stirring the pot to set a killer free-hmm head on to the execution. There are so many other countries with old testament law that have less crime that it kinda makes you wonder. And I do not advocate the old testament law, I do however give a thumbs up to the death penalty in heinous crimes such as this- so I pray if Mr. Davis is innocent that God will step in and put a stay in place for the execution and give Mr. Davis a new trial. For it sounds like there must be something in the evidence that still points a heavy finger at Mr. Davis for all the appeals to fall through.
02:22 AM on 09/15/2011
Heinous? While I do agree that the death penalty should be used in extreme cases and with lots of oversight, I don't see how this case is any more heinous than a person killing a child or another person? I have nothing against police but let's just face it, a life is a life. People have committed horrible acts of violence to "regular" human beings and gotten far less punishment for it. It seems the punishment for allegedly killing a cop, or actually killing the cop, is much worse and more consistent.
08:55 AM on 09/14/2011
The problem in criminal (and civil) investigations is the institutional interests of the investigative agencies. The reviewing agencies are slow and logical because they are relatively cheap; but digging up facts and interpreting them objectively is expensive, difficult and hard to review.

The vast majority are handled routinely and acceptably, but there are always people making wrong calls from ignorance, laziness, spite, or plain overwork. Systems need to have fail-safes built in, starting with honest people willing to speak up when something is wrong.
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laureenholt
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04:25 PM on 09/14/2011
Huh?
06:18 PM on 09/14/2011
lol...I agree
10:47 AM on 09/15/2011
Sorry if I went over your head. You're not obliged to think about this or anything.