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Barney Rubble2468
Reality has a liberal bias.
06:05 PM on 09/19/2011
He absolutely WON'T lose the middle by being tough. His only chance of gaining/keeping independents is to be tough and presidential; present a plan with some forward vision, hammer on it day after day, take it to the people at every opportunity, and paint the right as the naysayers and obstructionists they are.

He should have been working like this since day one. If you try to please everyone, you will lose every time.
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06:02 PM on 09/19/2011
Aparrently no. (Any other questions?)
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ronkw
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06:02 PM on 09/19/2011
Here's the revealing exchange with a persistent host Candy Crowley on CNN's "State of the Union:"

CROWLEY: When is the bill going to get on the floor?

DURBIN: The bill is on the calendar. Majority leader Reid moved it to the calendar. It is ready and poised. There are a couple other items we may get into this week not on the bill and some related issues that may create jobs. But we're going to move forward on the president's bill. There will be a healthy debate. I hope the Republicans will come to...

CROWLEY: After the recess, so next month? Or when will it actually begin to act on?

DURBIN: I think that's more realistic it would be next month.

So, as of right now, "right now" uttered on Sept. 8 really means sometime at least one month later.

Good thing the president's own Democratic party controls the Senate. Because, otherwise, there might be some kind of silly, unnecessary delays in deliberating Obama's urgent jobs bill that he says will surely help the nation's unemployed millions if only those Republicans don't connive to slow things down.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/09/obama-jobs-speech-right-now-dick-durbin.html
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Boomer in Itasca
Why are you whizzing in my water bowl?
02:00 AM on 09/20/2011
I'm guessing you don't have a full understanding of the legislative process. It's kind of interesting in its complexity. Full of rules that might seem to us outside that circle as not making any sense. It's worked pretty well for 200 years, though, so there must be something of value in it.
RealistBC
Micro-bios must pass muster. Mine won't.
05:58 PM on 09/19/2011
"Can Barack Obama be the tough guy?" No.
Norm
Read think read analyze read comment
06:05 PM on 09/19/2011
My sense is that he would have been the tough guy in budget and deficit fights if he could have been one. He can't, so now it is electioneering, not action.
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Dhammi
Veritas Vincit!
06:10 PM on 09/19/2011
In my opinion he can. He has given that 'other' party or parties a chance to put the interest of their constituents first. Since they have not I believe we will see a brand new way of doing 'things' by President Obama.
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05:57 PM on 09/19/2011
WE have no "ruling" federal government. The executive and legislative branches have abdicated their responsibilities, and the judicial branch enables more of the same with right-wing decisions that give control to the corporatocracy. No one is seriously attempting to govern or to restore prosperity to the people.

Obama talks tough. So what? Will he follow up effectively? As has been famously said, "The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior."

Besides, what does Obama want? A small tax increase and a huge giveaway in tax and spending cuts and the security net for our plunging middle class and the desperate poor.

I'm not even convinced that he gets it, when he keeps citing inability to save for college as a prime illustration of hardship.

Saving for college hardly concerns 1/6 of us who are hungry, 40+ percent with no medical care (some of them dying), and millions who lost or are losing their jobs and homes - while Republicans remain determined to take more from the middle to send to the upper class.

If a president understood the heinous nature of Republicans' Hard-Hearted Hannah attitude toward the American people, the bottomless pit of their (and their paymasters' greed) or that of their paymasters, and the depth of pain millions upon millions are experiencing, wouldn't outrage propel him to reject Republicans' failed policies, not adopt them? Wouldn't outrage propel him to action, not just words?

I don't expect any more from him in 2013 than before.
06:33 PM on 09/19/2011
The POTUS understands full well,.... the grim reaper has arrived dressed as a lamb! Do not forget for one minute he has his, its up to you to get yours.

Its those "hard-hearted" republicans that put you to work and food on your table. Not so heartless as you'd like to claim. It's funny when there is full or near full employment all these claims of the "inequity" of the system become mute. It's only when the disadvantaged are unemployed that the great injustice of our system becomes the cry of the day.
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12:26 AM on 09/20/2011
How presumptuous rightwingers are about people about whom they know absolutely nothing. There is no one as confident and self-righteous as those self-impressed know-it-alls who actually don't know what they are talking about.

No Republican puts me to work or food on my table. I own two businesses and manage quite a nice table all by myself. And provide for other tables, too. Amazing, isn't it?

Why would you think I worked for a Republican or any group of Republicans, even if I were a wage slave? You read tea leaves?

Why are Republicans, the majority of whom are not well-to-do, let alone rich, but rather lower working class wanna-bes with no understanding of history, economics, or government, so eager to make judgments with a complete absence of fact? Makes no sense, but It's apparently a party pre-requisite.

Democrats (I'm not one) have never been mute about inequity. If they had been, we would have no child labor, labor, overtime, EEO, or workplace safety laws; no Social Security or Medicare to keep the elderly from destitution; no medical or financial help for the very poor and very ill; no food inspection; no consumer protection laws; no unemployment insurance; no worker's compensation; no civil rights; no striving for equal opportunity for all; and the list goes on and on.

You might consider making judgments and forming opinions based on facts, not your prejudices and preconceived and inevitably wrong notions.
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jsgaetano
"Conservative" is not a political party, genius.
05:53 PM on 09/19/2011
When you understand Obama is a conservative, you realize he's been very tough. It's been very difficult for him to ram through 100% pure conservative ideology with Democratic support. His ConservaDems and Rahmpublicans were a great help, but then they almost all lost in 2010, and very few Blue Lapdogs will be running for reelection, seeing how Democratic voters are now refusing to vote for conservative candidates, even if it means losing the election. Now Obama's going to have to face his worst nightmare- a Democratic majority without any of his beloved conservative Democrats to help enable his Heritage Foundation plans.
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MidwestMomma
Just a Pilgrim on the Mayflower of Life!
06:05 PM on 09/19/2011
That just isn't true but it is another good conspiracy theory for the so inclined.
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jsgaetano
"Conservative" is not a political party, genius.
07:20 PM on 09/19/2011
What part isn't true?
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jsgaetano
"Conservative" is not a political party, genius.
01:14 AM on 09/22/2011
Nothing to say, huh?
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David Russo
05:53 PM on 09/19/2011
That is true to a point. Unfortunately, when we didn't see instant results and gratification, we went to the polls in 2010 and returned to power the crazies who got us here in the first place. The American voter careens from one end of the spectrum to the other and has the totally insane habit of rewarding obstructionism. By thwarting the mandate given the Democrats in 2008, the GOP has managed to be gifted, by the voters, the House. And next year they will be rewarded with the White House. US voters never seem to learn their lessons.
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pciorlandosales
have come to chew bubble gum and kick ash
06:11 PM on 09/19/2011
VERY WELL PUT!
06:58 PM on 09/19/2011
Well David, all I can say to you is, you're entitled to your opinion..
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rolor
'round and 'round we go
05:51 PM on 09/19/2011
Unless this article is intended to rally people toward supporting Obama's "tough talk", I don't see any point being made with it. Are you trying to scare people, Howard, or are you trying to provide some persepective on the seemingly insurmountability of the challenge he has? Claiming "he engaged in a little, well, class warfare" seems a little hypocritical when considering that "raising one's weapons in self-defence" carries far different implications than "engaging in a war". That "war" has long been declared and fought by the same Republicans who have steadily been gaining ground over decades and you're suggesting what?... for Obama to roll over because the "enemy" is overwhelming or for progressives to unite in common purpose?
05:50 PM on 09/19/2011
Mark Penn:

"Barack Obama is careening down the wrong path towards re-election.

He should be working as a president, not a candidate.

He should be claiming the vital center, not abandoning it.

He should be holding down taxes rather than raising them.

He should be mastering the global economy, not running away from it.

And most of all, he should be bringing the country together rather than dividing it through class warfare."
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MidwestMomma
Just a Pilgrim on the Mayflower of Life!
06:09 PM on 09/19/2011
I couldn't care less about Mark Penn or his ideas. We need jobs and teachers and safe bridges and the money to pay for them. The people want these things and we know who is working for us and against us. Nothing else matters!
07:00 PM on 09/19/2011
Good one Midwest, F&F
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pciorlandosales
have come to chew bubble gum and kick ash
06:25 PM on 09/19/2011
The same could be said about the repu. party :) They say no taxes but it worked for Regan (a Rep) who raised taxes 11 times while in office. To me that makes the repb. party two faced :) It was the Bush admin that spent us into this economic mess. Bush never failed to sign one spending bill put before him in his admin. Clinton raised taxes on the wealthy and it created a budget surpluss? Then your buddy Bush came along and spent that and alot more :) Bush passed his own health reform bill that passed trillions of debt onto the current admin. But you never heard cries of socialisim or marxisim then lol !! It was the Bush admin that passed the Patriot Act stripping americans of civil liberties and throwing the consititution out the window but no one was screaming socialisim or marxisim then? So get real higher taxes are inevitable. Ask yourself one question. If the ecomony improves who stands to benifit more? The middle class? Or the millionares?
05:48 PM on 09/19/2011
415 days until regime change.

Outta there!!!
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Voice of Reality
Right is right!
05:58 PM on 09/19/2011
01/20/2013 - End of an Error
Return to America
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Sundalecat
We love Obama!, by an angry White Man
05:59 PM on 09/19/2011
Go visit Karl he really needs you right now. Paid to be here!
05:48 PM on 09/19/2011
Sure, Obama can be tough. Not on Wall Street or the Pentagon, but on the people who believed in and voted for him? Any ol' day of the week, buster.
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05:44 PM on 09/19/2011
The answer to that question is, "how the heck would we know!!!" We would have to have seen him be tough here in America at least once before to know if he can or cannot be though.
crakrman79
Like broken clockwork he's right twice a day!
05:43 PM on 09/19/2011
"Can Obama be the tough guy?".

Sadly, no.
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Voice of Reality
Right is right!
05:59 PM on 09/19/2011
Quack Quack
05:42 PM on 09/19/2011
It's probably too late to play the tough guy for Obama. It is obvious to anyone not moribund that the repubs don't play nice and don't want consensus. Obama should have been a tough guy 2 years ago and consistently thereafter. For some reason the GOP wants only the already rich to do well but that's very few voters. Why would anyone not a millionaire vote republican anyway since every decision the GOP has made in the last 2 decades has been anti middle class.
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Voice of Reality
Right is right!
06:02 PM on 09/19/2011
It is not too late to stop being The Great Misleader. It is not too late to stop being an empty suit and absentee landlord.
Almost, but not too late.
05:42 PM on 09/19/2011
If 100% of the Democrats elected vote with the President on this, and we see no Blue Dogs, voting with republicans the President can stand strong. The Democrats must ensure that the message to the American People is clear and simple, to fight all the toxic mixture of disinformation produced by the right. If there are Democrats that defect, the President is no longer totally at fault, the defectors share in the blame for a clear lack of backbone and will to vote for the party they were elected to represent.
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Jan Rice
05:46 PM on 09/19/2011
Speaking of "toxic info"...how about misstating the Buffett situation....making believe that he's actually comparing payroll taxes to payroll taxes...he's NOT...and he knows he's not!...his taxes are capital gains, NOT payroll....why isn't THAT being reported on the HuffPo? this is merely campaigning on Obama's part...all smoke, no real substance...just sayin...
06:03 PM on 09/19/2011
You are exactly right. Tax Capitol Gains at the same rate as payroll. It is income. Both problems solved. I do love compromise.