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A Toddler Is Kicked Off a Plane... Why Is This Headline News?

Posted: 03/15/2012 2:51 pm

Last week a 2-year-old girl had a tantrum. Why is this headline news? Well, because, that 2-year-old girl and her family got thrown off a JetBlue flight as a result of her tantrum. Is this headline news because toddlers delaying flights is a real issue facing the airline industry, causing frequent disruptions and threatening the safety of flight crews? Well, according to this ABC News report, it has happened at least three times since 2007. Hmm. Is it headline news because stories like this garner hundreds of heated comments resulting in lots of page views for the news websites? Ding ding ding -- bingo.

In this most recent case, the Vieau Family was returning to Boston from the Turks & Caicos islands. With no other flight options that night, booking new airfares and an extra night in a hotel cost them $2,000. Turks & Caicos can be a pricey island, but because it's so safe and clean, it's very popular with families. When I flew home from there with my daughter, there were 15 babies on the plane. And you know what? One or two of them might have cried a little. Somehow we all survived.

That same ABC News Travel section had an article about alcohol on planes less than six months ago. In it, the author gives seven examples of passengers acting inappropriately on airplanes -- in some cases assaulting flight attendants -- and mentions that he "could go on and on." That article received a grand total of 17 comments, most agreeing with the author. I recall the series Airline on A&E a few years back, and while I don't remember any misbehaving toddlers or negligent parents, I think the drama, for most episodes, was a response to people drinking too much.

It's my guess that alcohol is the cause of frequent delays and threatens the safety of flight crews. Research by Britain's Civil Aviation Authority found that almost half of air rage incidents were connected to alcohol abuse. And yet there is never talk of banning booze on airplanes or at airports. (Thank goodness, since I do enjoy an inflight Bloody Mary once my children are safely ensconced in their toddler headphone and iPad coma.)

Here's what's really alarming about all the news headlines about babies on planes: It frightens new parents and may prevent them from seeing the world with their children. Truthfully, in all our flights, we've never had anyone be outwardly rude to us -- even on my solo flight to Florida where both kids threw up all over me. Our kind seat mate kept offering tissues, although there wasn't much I could do with them. I wrote about my first experience with a toddler on a plane over four years ago, and sadly the public's attitude seems to be getting worse.

The Internet is a far crueler place than most airplanes, and no one would dare to be as rude in person as they are behind the anonymity of a computer. But this piece in Jezebel fairly accurately details all the online vitriol towards those traveling with kids in tow.

And is it ironic that most of those most vocal against travel with babies claim their love of travel began in infancy?

 

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09:40 AM on 04/25/2012
At the risk of stirring up the "anti-drug" people, I think for children whom parents have pretty good idea are going to scream and have tantrums during a flight, a little benadryl/dramamine may be beneficial for all. Sometimes I myself have motion sickness/allergy smell issues when travelling and flying, and a half-tablet/1 tablet takes just enough of the sickness edge off that I can still function and enjoy the trip without being sick/miserable/grouchy at my fellow passengers. When I have travelled long distance with my cat, the vet will prescribe some kind of tranquilizer for her so that she is not "caterwauling" the whole trip, getting upset and making both of us miserable.
I know lots of parents think "drugging" a child is bad, but there has to be medications that would take the edge off of things and make life easier for the child, parent and other passengers
11:09 AM on 04/23/2012
I used to travel frequently but never had the courage to try once I had kids. After reading your article and the comments, I’m intimidated but at the same time uplifted. I may have to plan a lot and even practice, but I’m confident I can handle whatever my kids throw at me, without sacrificing other passengers. My parents live two hours away so when we drive to see them, I bring my tablet for the kids. I will definitely be doing the same when we go to see my husband’s parents via airplane; it’s much less messy than a coloring book and there’s almost nothing else I need to pack. It’s loaded with some kids’ games, interactive books, and the Remote Access app from my employer, Dish. The app lets them watch kids’ shows and movies and when they fall asleep, I get to watch my shows.
11:46 PM on 03/27/2012
Last year when I was flying fromWashington DC to SanDiego CA I had to make a connection in Atlanta GA. On the flight from DC to Atlanta I sat next to a woman who had an infant and a five year old boy with her. I had no problems with them. Both kids were well behaved. I don't mind sitting next to someone with children on a plane. Babies do what babies do, that is to cry. It is a fact of life and other people need to learn how to deal with it. I had rather sit next to a mother and her children that some yuppie jerk.
09:13 PM on 03/26/2012
I took my 3yr old to the Nutcracker. Weeks before we went we watched the ballet on youtube, talked about the storyline, characters, etc. She knew the plot, the music and the expected behavior. I took her to a matinee, made sure she had pottied, eaten, and was wearing comfortable clothes all before we took our seats. She behaved beautifully. The two 5 year olds and their mothers sitting in front of us were terrible. The kids whined/pitched fits about not being able to see, not knowing the story, being tired, hungry, etc. Their mothers were practically yelling at them to be quiet. FINALLY, the mom took one girl out, but just to the back of the theater, where we could still hear her screaming.

I have flown across the country, by myself, with a 2 and a 3 year old. I packed snacks and toys for every 1/2 of the trip, bought tickets that overlapped with what would be "quiet time" and pre-emptivly apologized to my neighbors for any discomforts they might experience. I made a point of talking to them about safety and the captain and we looked at the emergency plans and talked about the plane rules.

I train my children before I do something involving adult situations, and then try very hard to minimize drama, maximize success, and make the experience an enjoyable one.

With all things that go smoothly, there is required a great amount of time and preparation to be invested.
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Teri Springer
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02:31 PM on 03/25/2012
Corinne, read what you wrote again: "One or two of them might have cried a little. Somehow we all survived."

This should have been your BIG CLUE that this kid was not just "crying a little." No pilot is going to turn a plane around and taxi BACK to the gate for a kid who is crying. This kid obviously was out of control. Refusing to sit in her seat (I don't understand why her parents didn't bring a car seat), screaming, etc.

It's a safety and liability issue. Siting on mommy's lap during takeoff is not an option. If that plane had to abort the takeoff they would have been scraping the kid off the ceiling or walls....not to mention other passengers could have been hurt when she went flying. It's also really difficult to listen to the safety instructions when a kid is SCREAMING.

Why should the other 100+ people on the plane be put at risk and/or have to listen to a SCREAMING kid all the way back to Boston (a 4 hour flight from Provo)? Those other passengers have rights too.

I understand that not all kids, even with good parenting have issues from time-to-time but that is the parents problem....it should not be the problem of the flight crew and 100+ other people.
02:51 AM on 03/28/2012
Thank you Teri for putting it into words. I have had the not so good luck of being on many flights with screaming children of all ages. As well as the kick the seat behind me kids, with the oblivious parents who are pissed the minute you ask the child to refrain from kicking your seat. I wholeheartedly concur that Corinne may have forgotten I paid for my seat and have no plans to scream and cry for the next 4 hours (if I did, I would expect to be kicked off the flight too) and expect the same courtesy. Maybe airlines should try setting up "kids" flights and see if they can fill up a plane or adult only flights. It is no different than a person's choice to select an airline which provides more legroom or a direct flight. As far as other adult aspects, airlines could do a better job of solving them. For instance, the seat you are assigned has the corresponding overhead bin and that is it. If airlines don't want to deal with the cell phone issues, have the signal blockers placed on planes and so on and so forth.
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Teri Springer
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09:22 AM on 03/28/2012
Love the overhead bin idea.

I was thinking it would actually be good business to have designated "Disney" flights. I am pretty sure they could fill a charter to Orlando from major hubs such as Chicago, NY (including my least favourite airport, Newark) and it would be easy to make clear that these flights were family friendly.

Considering that I already pay extra for extra legroom, I would be willing to pay a bit more for kid-free flights and I don't think the airlines would have any difficulty filling these.

The last couple of years I have rediscovered the fun of traveling by train when I am not in a hurry. I have long enjoyed going back and forth to Chicago by train and traveling in the business car. Then, last spring I took the Amtrak to Denver. Had a sleeper (that includes surprisingly good meals), met some very nice and interesting people, and got to see the landscape I have missed in the past. Next up, a trip from coast to coast (east to west) in Canada and then south to California and return on the Zephyr. Yes, there are kids on trains but I haven't found the noise to be an issue. Guess they are more entertained on the train.
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05:47 PM on 03/21/2012
I relate this topic to the misbehavior of toddlers and adolescents in stores. For example, it annoys me when the adult accompanying a child sends he/she off to the toy department, to keep them busy.

And, church. A notice in my church reads: "Parents ~ Please don't allow your children to run around inside the church. It is dangerous for everyone." The sign is ignored for the most part. I can't tell you how many times I and other parishioners have been blindsided and tripped!

An adorable little girl of maybe 3-years-old, was on the checkout line with her dad in a store. She was in the middle of a tantrum and her dad gently tapped her. She in turn, hauled off and belted him in the stomach! Ow!!! She was a stout little one! In response, he gave a half-hearted giggle.

Then, there's restaurants. Why do parents allow their toddlers to climb all over the seats in a restaurant? It's my guess, if the child falls and is injured, that parent will be the first to sue!

I remember seeing a sign in a laundromat a long time ago. It read: "If you can't control your children, LEAVE with them!" Wow!

Finally, to the parents who neglect doling out discipline I say this. Our government has created a fine line on this matter, to the point where you can no longer distinguish abuse from discipline. Take heart though, there IS a difference!
08:12 AM on 03/19/2012
Last summer I was on a train for 4 hours. The whole car was full of children of all ages, I guess there were about 1/3 of the passengers (I have no idea why there were so many).
Most kids were talking or playing quietly and there was nothing anyone could complain about. But next to me, there was a mother with 3 kids - one about 4 and twins around 6 -7 years old who yelled, jumped around, banged on everything and were annoying all the other passengers, while their mother occasionally asked them to sit still and stop yelling, but they didn't mind her. I can tell you, I had a throbbing headache by the time I got out of there, and I'm not prone to migraines. There is a limit of what people should be forced to accept from other people's children. You had a child ? Wonder of wonders ! So what ? So did we, but we don't ask you to sit through their tantrums or bad manners.
You can't control them ? Then keep them at home, where you can fully benefit from their "socialization", without abusing everyone around you .

2-years old throwing a tantrum ? No problem. Get the parents to calm her down in time and she can board. Otherwise, she's not "planebroken" and shouldn't fly.
05:42 AM on 03/19/2012
I am so glad that I have made the choice to raise my children in Italy. The climate of negativity in America these days is frightening. Kids are kids. Parents need to parent and strangers need to learn a little bit of basic, human, generosity of spirit. Horribly, it seems like the political climate really reflects the kindness and generosity of the general population. This is not the America that I grew up in.
02:23 PM on 04/30/2012
Did you see the today show interview with them? The kids are monsters and the parents don't know a thing about parenting. They are not normal kids.
10:02 AM on 03/17/2012
My issue is that parents don;t teach their kids how to behave and largely ignore them. I have had kids run into me i stores aas they run around unattended, sream and yell and act out in finwe dinaing restaurants in the evening while their parents ignore them and contnue talking, kids on airplanes screem and complain at the top of their lung because they have to sit in a seat for fifteen minuutes with a seat belt during take off and landing. You can tell the kids whose parents are ot parenting the, These people do not deserve to have kids and it is unfair to expect the rest of the planet to babysit their children. I have also seen children on flights who are well behaved, respectful and who do as they are told without argument or tantrums. They are still kids and have fun, but they are not acting out inappropriately. It is obvious that their parents set boundaries, teach loving discipline, and are well prepared for travel. I applaud these parents.
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08:14 PM on 03/19/2012
When I worked in a bank, there were some parents who walked in the door and immediately seemed to think that being aware of their children was no longer a requirement of parenting. I've had to tell toddlers to not hit the keys on the computer at the new accounts desk; stop a child from braining themselves when they tried sitting on a velvet rope used to delineate the waiting line; and keep one from potentially burning himself by reaching for a hot coffee pot that was made available as a courtesy for customers. When I politely pointed out the danger to the inattentive parent of one of these potential accidents-in-the-making, I got attitude... just like many of the parents posting here are giving.

To those parents, please accept the fact that you chose to have children and are responsible for managing them. Stop giving attitude to others who don't want to have to deal with out-of-control children while their parents are having a mental vacation.
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09:42 PM on 03/16/2012
I can't blame the kids, they're little and simply don't know any better. It's parents who just sit there and say/do nothing, hoping the problem will go away if ignored enough, who need a kick in the pants.
05:33 PM on 03/16/2012
Why would anyone want to take a two year old on any nice vacation? I've raised kids. I know. It is no vacation when a toddler comes along!
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09:39 PM on 03/16/2012
Talk about some of that online vitriol. Why shouldn't parents take their kids on vacation?
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12:19 PM on 03/17/2012
Personally, I wouldn't take wee ones on vacation any more than I would take my puppy to PetCo for socialization.

Small children and puppies don't yet have the antibodies bestowed by vaccinations, and thus are vulnerable to a whole host of nasty diseases. Yeah, take an unvaccinated baby to an airport. And then on a plane.

This is probably how the next pandemic will be spread; through people incubating contagion while traveling.

Feel free to expose your spawn to a global smorgasbord of disease. Darwin was right.
01:06 AM on 03/17/2012
Sadly, I'm sure your kids feel a vacation with you is no fun either. What a horrid thing to say about your children.
02:27 PM on 04/30/2012
Whatever. Children are annoying and vacations with them are a lot of work. Take a vacation for yourself and leave the kids at home. What is wrong with that?
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09:42 AM on 03/16/2012
I don't have children myself, but I remember how my mother raised me. If her child began to have a meltdown in public, we would immediately remove ourselves from that public place. I don't recall having that many tantrums on a plane, and we flew fairly often in those days, but I am sure mom would have at least taken me into the restroom.
09:49 PM on 03/16/2012
Yeah, but you can't do that when the fasten seat belt sign is on, you just have to grin and bear it 'til the tantrum runs it's course!
10:16 PM on 03/20/2012
Or you set expectationsfor your child. My toddler would never dare have a meltdown on a plane (and she is not always a perfect angel). And yes, we've done transatlantic flights.
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12:18 AM on 03/16/2012
Most people, myself included, love children, and don't mind them on flights. I have a problem with parents who do not make any effort to curb bad behavior, tantrums, and disrupting other passengers. If your child is incapable of sitting quietly for six hours, they have no business on a six hour flight. The parents who cannot make this distinction are the problem.
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Mary Poe
10:57 PM on 03/15/2012
Thank you for writing this article. I had some pretty negative comments when responding to this story from the standpoint of a parent. I think that to negatively stigmatize travel with youngsters is discriminatory! I have the same right to travel with my children as any other adult on a plane. Oh, and how about someone who is Autistic? Should we complain about their behavior, too? People need to show compassion for young children and (sigh) try to offer a helping hand.
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Teri Springer
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02:40 PM on 03/25/2012
While you have the right to travel with your children on a plane, that does NOT trump the flight crews right to maintain safety and the other 100+ passengers right to not listen to your kid screaming for 6 hours. Crying kids, no big deal. And no pilot would have turned a place around and gone back to the gate unless this kid was a SIGNIFICANT problem.

A question: these parents were out about $2000 because their child would not sit down, let them put a seatbelt on and stop screaming. The plane could not take off until she did. Say 50 people on that flight had connections to make. So, it's ok to delay the flight and make 50 people (or 10, or even 5) miss their connections all because one child can't behave?

I agree parents SHOULD take their kids on MOST vacations with them. However, if you know your child is prone to meltdowns you need to remember that the world doesn't revolve around you and your little darling....and stick to road trips until the child has the maturity to behave or until you have the maturity to take responsibility for your child and their behaviour.
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