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Social Media Experts With 5-7 Years of Experience?

Posted: 05/24/2012 11:08 am

The other day I was looking through job postings for fun and I came across several ads that ended up leaving me with a nagging question in the corner of my mind... At what point do we consider a person an expert? Most of us would expect an expert to have grey hair and a big Dr. in front of their name. However, this particular job title makes me rethink that idea -- Social Media Expert. The experience needed for this position seems fair at first: five to seven years. Five to seven years of experience in a field that doesn't really have five to seven years of existence.

When you think about it though, social media is still in its childhood. It was only born around the 2003-2004 time period. Not only that, but many people did not start using it as a place to find any kind of business until about 2009. So how many people exactly could be experienced in social media for five to seven years? Sounds like a pretty small job pool to me.

Actually the whole idea of determining expertise by time spent is a little presumptuous in the first place. This may be one job where time is not the best determination of expertise. An expert is usually someone who is very knowledgeable in their area. This is not always quantified by time, but by the accuracy and familiarity with a subject. An important piece to developing a social media presence is to make up a team that knows how to use social media as it works right now, and can forecast developing trends in the near and future.

Let's see... I guess I could say I have been messing around with LinkedIn, Myspace (hey a lot of people used it back then), Facebook and Twitter for five years. Does that make me an expert? I don't think five years of tweeting should be considered proof positive that I am qualified to lead an effective social campaign.

How about this? Instead of focusing on time spent in the field, it would make better sense to find someone who is well informed, has researched the area, can give a good presentation, has gotten to know the business's needs (after being given access to the necessary information), and who can adapt their strategy according to changing needs of the target groups.

The need for expertise in the area of social media is becoming more and more important to businesses and organizations of all sizes. They can guide the use of these sites to improve visibility and image. They breech the gap between physical and Internet images and follow new methods of 'word-of-mouth' referrals.

How a company intends to fill those positions with a requirement of five to seven years of experience is quite beyond my understanding. This is another area where businesses wishing to get into current trends and become effective will need to do a little more research on the subject to come up with new criteria that will more effectively draw in applicants who are qualified and have knowledge and direction to offer.

 
 
 

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The other day I was looking through job postings for fun and I came across several ads that ended up leaving me with a nagging question in the corner of my mind... At what point do we consider a pers...
The other day I was looking through job postings for fun and I came across several ads that ended up leaving me with a nagging question in the corner of my mind... At what point do we consider a pers...
 
 
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Ty2010
04:32 PM on 05/30/2012
They're basically anyone that's experienced success within their social circle. Greens, Gamers, Corporate, Professional, Parents of young children, Marketers, they're all going to respond differently and will take different approaches to reach them. If someone has experience in all, I'd doubt their effectiveness in specific campaigns. Maybe qualifiers as to audience types would be more useful than tacking on years of experience.
07:47 PM on 05/27/2012
Craig, first great article. Second, it'd be fantastic to now what ultimately drove you to the listings in a very cynical perspective (many great people are looking for work).

Anyway, you bring up some wonderful perspectives. The frustrating point is in the job description itself, not those who claim SM Expert status. Due to how the work/status is somehow achieved, companies still look for people to "do social". When business finally wakes up to realize we're at the integration of media and not the production of "social" content, they'll approach things correctly.

We've been providing clients with social content (Facebook, then Twitter) integrated with their entire presence since January 2008, have a number of significant clients in our space, I've been on LinkedIn since 2005, Facebook 2007, Naymz, Flickr and Twitter 2008, Foursquare 2010, YouTube, Pinterest, EmpireAvenue, Klout, etc. mostly since new. Never called an expert. And we don't "do" social media. We help companies win with the benefits it brings.

Most companies in our space pull the wool over clients' eyes daily, producing significantly less than promised. A game that's easily played since most don't read analytics or understand following versus impact. However many continue to fail clients miserably due to inexperience and ego while smaller companies get overlooked by status requirements. Endorsements and client lists don't deliver results.

I'll say it, however I'm not the first to.....I'd like to punch the next social media expert. But I'll wait until after they get the job.
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ideabloke
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12:44 PM on 05/27/2012
I still cringe when I hear the term 'expert' and 'social media' in the same sentence. To me, the term expert should not be used in a persons title. It's an adjective that, at best, is bestowed by a client/customer to a service provider. Not something a professional would use to describe himself. For example, an expert on brains might hold the title 'brain surgeon', but you can bet his business card won't say 'brain expert', regardless if he's been practicing for 40+ years.

For one to bestow to oneself the title of expert, to me, just comes across as a bit suspect. An alternative might be the word 'specialist', as it denotes an area of focus.
11:29 AM on 05/25/2012
Craig

It's a grand observation! What resonates most is that a 'listing' for so many opportunities (such as they are) begin with '5-7 years of social media experience.' I completely agree with your observation that someone with traditional skills and reasonable experience with social media tools may be the best candidate. Brilliant!
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Craig Agranoff
CBS12 Tech Correspondent, Co-Founder Gripd.com
12:45 PM on 05/27/2012
Thanks Mark. Little things like this aggravate me, since we have such high unemployment and these HR departments don't even understand the job they are hiring for.
08:33 PM on 05/24/2012
I love it that someone else has noticed this trend. The best was, "5-7 years of mobile experience", well being that I was probably one of the only people in the United States working in mobile back in 2000, it was specifically for the Asian and European markets.. haha.. i didn't get the job.. I don't get that! ;)
01:32 PM on 05/24/2012
USENET, IRC, .plan files, web-based journals and other bulletin boards have been around since the mid-1990s or earlier. Some of us were using these online social media tools from a business perspective 15 years ago. Terry Pratchett was an online pioneer 15+ years ago as an author interacting online with his audience. There were MySpace entrepreneurs. LiveJournal revolutionized blogging into a community-driven social experience 13 years ago. It's obviously possible to have 5, 7, 10, or 15+ years of social media experience.

But I agree there's also the question of how relevant and important that experience is. Those of us who were blogging and chatting 10 years ago know just how much that experience has changed over time. Social media veterans have to stay relevant as well, but those who have done so have a rare perspective on how social media has shifted over the past decade and how it will continue to change.
11:40 AM on 05/24/2012
There are social media professionals with 7 years (and more) experience. I am one of them, having evolved with the genre while first working in AOL Community for 10 years. True, we are a rarity, and your article points out a problem I face every day. By and large we with 7+ years of experience were already in the workforce doing other things and so by now we're in our 40s and 50s. Yet, HR departments and hiring managers view social media as a young person's game so when we walk through the door they don't know how to react other than dismissing us in favor of the kids that "get it." So, we're out here, with tons of knowledge, ability and yes, experience to offer -- IF hiring managers care to look.
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Craig Agranoff
CBS12 Tech Correspondent, Co-Founder Gripd.com
04:05 PM on 05/24/2012
I just think many managers miss the point with years experience in this new field with a new term right?
04:18 PM on 05/24/2012
Agree - you're looking at someone over here with over a decade of social media experience and using social media to market products to people. I'm 30, and I've been using social for over half of my life in some capacity (blogging, chat, forums, etc.). We exist, and we're real! And not all of us have grey hair (yet)!!!!
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11:36 AM on 05/24/2012
A guy I knew in school touts himself as a social media guru. He has a book, gets interviews, gives entertaining presentations, etc. I'm sure he just jumped into it because he saw the opportunity, but I don't think he's been doing it for more than maybe three years. Somehow, he's an authority in the field.
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Craig Agranoff
CBS12 Tech Correspondent, Co-Founder Gripd.com
04:06 PM on 05/24/2012
As are all the others! I sometimes say that I used to wonder what happened to all the stock brokers from the 90's? They resurfaced as mortgage brokers, and now they are all social media experts
04:46 PM on 05/24/2012
First, nice name. Second, this is one of the issues in my field that is eternally frustrating. Before I started at my current company, there was a "Social Media consultant" working here who had about 2 years "experience." It's hard to explain, but to me, the extended years in the social media world give you a highly in-depth comprehension of the culture, kind of like being immersed in a foreign language and learning how to interact.
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Craig Agranoff
CBS12 Tech Correspondent, Co-Founder Gripd.com
09:39 PM on 05/24/2012
Exactly!
11:26 AM on 05/24/2012
I am a social media expert, having started with business social media profile creation and management in 2006. That's 6 years. "Playing around" with MySpace, Facebook, etc., does not an expert make. I do agree that judging an expert by time doing the job is more than a bit naiive. There are ways to use social media to increase business, which should not be confused with being able to generate a huge amount of "LIKEs" or "FOLLOWs", which can be meaningless. I agree that the pool for this kind of position should be small, there are hundreds of companies who claim to be "expert" in this field, but only a few who really know what they're doing.
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Craig Agranoff
CBS12 Tech Correspondent, Co-Founder Gripd.com
04:07 PM on 05/24/2012
Most people go around trying to get companies to hire them with nothing more than a facebook account and tweets. Experience comes by thinking outside the box and showing a successful campaign. Doesn't matter if it was 1 year or 5 right?