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Obama Sidelined?

Posted: 07/25/11 04:33 AM ET

It's no surprise that Republicans, led by House Speaker John Boehner, went out of their way to insult the president, but remarkably Democrats also went forward over the weekend with Capitol Hill debt talks that did not even include a symbolic emissary from the White House.

After a perfunctory meeting with Barack Obama on Saturday -- a session he had hurriedly called to maintain at least the appearance of leverage -- Democrats and Republicans returned to their caves on the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue for the real talks, without anyone from the White House included.

This served to reinforce Boehner's vow to exclude Obama from the discussions. The internal logic of Washington's byzantine protocol indicates a bipartisan snub of the president.

While the GOP obviously would savor a solution to the debt-ceiling crisis that gives Obama no credit, why are Democratic leaders so willing to cut him out?

The answer might be found in growing concerns among veteran Capitol Hill Democrats that their president is a lousy negotiator.

Although they see him as a talented public communicator, his short time as a senator and painfully slow learning curve as president leads congressional Democrats to think it best to take over and provide cover for him once the deal is done.

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It's no surprise that Republicans, led by House Speaker John Boehner, went out of their way to insult the president, but remarkably Democrats also went forward over the weekend with Capitol Hill debt ...
It's no surprise that Republicans, led by House Speaker John Boehner, went out of their way to insult the president, but remarkably Democrats also went forward over the weekend with Capitol Hill debt ...
 
 
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RusStyles
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01:42 AM on 07/28/2011
It's not possible to negotiate in a vacuum. A negotiation by its definition is a give and take between at least two opposing parties. And if one side refuses to give up anything, what do you do? The repubs are intentionally refusing to negotiate...to sabotage the economy. If Dems had a clear majority in the house, this current drama wouldn't be happening.
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12:09 AM on 07/28/2011
Whatever Warbama is doing, it is not what most would call "negotiating" -- capitulating, triangulating, waffling, positioning, delegating even, ..., but not negotiating -- most especially from a position of power, or at least equal power. It's called the Veto; some bright guys built it in to our federal system a long time ago ;-)

I'd submit the Dems are scared of something else: they see pretty clearly that Obama is really out for 1 thing in 2012: his own re-election. That's IT!

Problem is, if he keeps trying to triangulate towards some purely imagined center, and appearing weak and indecisive in the process, or all words and no beef, then he'll get blown out in 2012, and the Dems are scared witless he'll take them with him!

they've got good reason to worry!!
11:05 PM on 07/27/2011
Obama breaks EVERY negotiating rule there is.

Look closely at his negotiations and you'll see either, A) he sucks at it, or B) he wants the rich and powerful to win.

It's one or the other. And it's there for any non-cheerleading progressive to see. Clearly.
RealistBC
Micro-bios must pass muster.
09:38 PM on 07/27/2011
Why are Democratic leaders so willing to cut him out? It's because he can't close the deal. He has never closed the deal. And now that the entire world economic security is at stake, the tardy adults in the Democratic Party know they can't let Obama play at being the president anymore. Someone has to act before next Tuesday, which will be Doomsday no matter what based on all the publicity that date got.

This isn't to say that the Democrats are the answer to the question. But to paraphrase an infamous quote, one has to deal with the economic crisis with the leaders on has, not with the leaders one wishes one has.
06:45 PM on 07/27/2011
I saw right through Mr. Obama when he was campaigning ... what was this stupid concept of "compromise" when we live in a country where the arrogant, greedy, and ruthless rule the citizenry. It isn't just experience in Congress where Mr. Obama lacks background. He should have been a history major not a "political scientist". Poly sci puts almost no emphasis on the historical background of political studies and that level of study misses a lot that should be considered in running a national government and economy. It's also suspect that Mr. Obama was given an "adjunct" Constitutional law professorship without prior preparation. If "congressional Democrats ... think it best to take over and provide cover for him once the deal is done", what good is having such a president or a party leader and, worse, one they have to hide the reality of his insufficient stewardship. He didn't seem like a true Democrat to me, back in 2008, but then what kind of a Democrat was the "New Democrat" Bill Clinton? Real Democrats don't focus on the Wall Street Fantasyland and ignore the vast majority of Americans, the citizens who actually work and produce the riches of the economy. Is there any way to nominate someone else (a real Democrat, in other words) in 2012? There is precedence for this, remember LBJ? Or are you all too young or even too fearful?
RealistBC
Micro-bios must pass muster.
09:53 PM on 07/27/2011
There is a way, but marching in the streets only provides a reason to invoke the Patriot Act. Obama can be toppled from the nomination as LBJ was, which will happen if this budget crisis isn't solved in a satisfactory manner. If it is not, with more people out of work, or losing their homes, or unable to pay for medical care anymore, he's toast and the party leaders will have to push him aside to avoid returning the nation to Republican rule. I hope they are already working on this.
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kateslate
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04:11 PM on 07/27/2011
I just do not know how anybody can vote for the Republicans. They are in bed with those who want to destroy the middle class and turn us into serfs v royalty, much like long-ago Europe. We must support measures that provide us with an educated population and a strong middle class. The rich will always stay rich....they make sure they can afford lawyers for that. It is the middle class that needs support. I simply cannot fathom why anybody votes for a Republican these days. Too many ties to Big Corporations that want to amass unprecedented wealth in the name of ......what? Just so you can say you win? Why? Why does the right want to bamboozle their constituents, most of them admittedly not wealthy? They bamboozle them by introducing God and morality and fire and brimstone into a discussion that should only be about the health of our country. What is best for our citizens? Education, healthcare, good infrastructure, opportunity and mental health. Taking care of those issues explicitly will raise the standard of living in each and every population where their politicians take stands and make them a priority. It will not only raise the standard of living, but create wealth besides. Republicans just don't get that. Jesus did. Jesus would be ashamed of what Republicans are doing in His name today. It is shocking. Simply shocking.
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Moonspirit48
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01:21 AM on 07/28/2011
Fanned and faved. Well stated.
11:07 AM on 07/27/2011
lol, "talented public communicator"
His approval ratings dropped the more he appeared on TV this week!

Maybe to Senate Democrats the ability to read is a "talent"
04:55 AM on 07/27/2011
"his short time as a senator and painfully slow learning curve as president"

Being President of the United States is probably not the easiest job to have as evidenced by so few of the senators and representatives vying for the job. What I find interesting is that most of the really great Presidents (at least according to historical accounts) did not come to be President by way of the Senate.
RealistBC
Micro-bios must pass muster.
09:54 PM on 07/27/2011
"What I find interestin­g is that most of the really great Presidents (at least according to historical accounts) did not come to be President by way of the Senate. "

What I find interesting is that some of the worst did.
01:45 AM on 07/27/2011
You can't negotiate with debt ceiling extremists, Craig. You are mistaken about who is sidelined. Obama now owns the compromise field which in fact is the high ground. Others have retreated to the sidelines. It was always encumbent on congress to provide a bill he could sign. If they fail to do so he will invoke the 14th amendment provision for government debt guarantee and send all of congress to the locker room. In so doing he would increase his presidential authority and weaken congressional authority. He would have no choice. Debt default would collapse the economy. If he fails to hold the high ground and caves to tea party demands, he would lose all credibility as a presidential leader and have no chance of re-election. Failing to reach a compromise weakens congress not the president.
06:57 AM on 07/27/2011
He has already lost credibility! The only way he can lead is to strong-arm members of his own party into doing what HE wants, not what the people want! As in the health care plan (yea, yea, I know, who am I to speak for you... but over 86% of the other Americans DID NOT WHAT that HEALTH CARE PLAN)! And where did it get the democrats when he did that!

OH, and you do not think printing more money will not collapse the economy?
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09:40 PM on 07/26/2011
He only sidelines himself.

He is afraid to stand against them.
07:46 PM on 07/26/2011
NO one here gets it. You are all too busy blaming the party you do not like. Fact is Congress spends the money such as each Senator having a limo with driver that we pay for also the House, all 435 members, has rental cars @ $1000 a month per. Wanna figure up the cost of that? Want to fix the problem? Next election drop all 535 members of Congress and start over!! Republicans do not want to raise taxes on the rich because they are the party of the rich. After the Gulf oil spill BP rang up $5 billion in earnings last quarter & still gets gov. subsidies. That is a Rep gift, not from the pres. Demos have to raise taxes to cover Republician butts with the give-a-ways to their rich friends!!! Show me a poor Repub & I'll show you a 1st term Congressman. Get real people!!
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cb55
11:26 AM on 07/27/2011
I agree with you...unfortunately I believe this country lacks the will to go to the voting polls and exercise accountability in removing "public servants" in the legislature who have failed us.

All the wailing and whining accomplishes nothing without tangible action on our parts.

Follow the money, folks...look at campaign contributions, lobbyists (I read an article recently that stated the many of the Republican representative staffers are now former lobbyists -- foxes guarding the hen house????) voting records and bills passed to support corporations and the top 2%. A little research goes a long way to inform the voter who then needs to take action -- calling or writing your congressmen/women, writing op-ed pieces, attending community political action meetings and informed voting with accountability.
02:41 PM on 07/26/2011
"The answer might be found in growing concerns among veteran Capitol Hill Democrats that their president is a lousy negotiator". Finally someone said it. He was giving up way too much. Fortunately his plan got rejected.
08:57 PM on 07/26/2011
He had no plan.... Still doesn't.
06:37 AM on 07/27/2011
He is not giving ANYTHING UP and that is why his plan was rejected!!
When are you going to get it? The US budget is stretched as far as it can go!
We are sick of the endless spending, and WE are NOT ALL REPUBLICIANS!
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Moonspirit48
Happy to be alive ...
01:46 PM on 07/26/2011
I am appalled at many of the comments on this article. It seems to be a place for all the malcontents to mouth off against our President, a reasonable, articulate, intelligent man. Too bad they don't appreciate what they have. Perhaps they would prefer the Tea Party win the presidency next year.
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01:56 PM on 07/26/2011
Hey friend :) I just don't think they would prefer but are sweating over doing that.
12:41 AM on 07/27/2011
hey friend the president has a 57percent approval over the 21 % for the gop thats tell yous what they think of the new gop members and there riduclous old and say it anyway you want the gop is for the rich and nothing else and of course trickle down economics which has never worked there will less of thegop in 2012 and the gop has no one that metaally capable of the job of president and 2012 will surprize many especially the gop!
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OtayPanky
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02:11 PM on 07/26/2011
I agree that he is reasonable, articulate and intelligent. I think he is also a good man, morally speaking.

But I am afraid he is just not showing himself to be an effective chief executive.

Supporters of Obama decry the fiercely partisan nature of politics today. But if you know anything about American history, you know that fiercely partisan politics have been the rule in Washington, rather than the exception.

To be an effective president, you have to have a certain sort of political instinct. FDR had it. Eisenhower had it. LBJ had it. Reagan had it. Clinton had it. Carter did not, and (apparently) neither does Obama.

That's what the "malcontents" are upset about. We had an incredible feeling of "hope and change" in the 2008 election, and we're getting the sinking sense that we picked a bad pony.
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ok-johne
03:18 PM on 07/26/2011
I think it's funny when those on the left are so up-set at Obama for not delivering as promissed. Hope and change was silly to many of us back then. Now some of you get that as well.

The left, if they opened their eyes would see that the government and it's debt should have naturally gotten smaller in the last few years. Thanks to Obama evrything grew at a historic pace. Amazing really.
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twfslc
01:41 PM on 07/26/2011
Say what you want about Ronald Reagan, but he could lead. He understood the concept of "horsetrading" and hard negotiating. He also knew how to appeal to the voters and encourage them to light up the Congressional switchboard and swamp the Congressional office buildings with mail.

Barack Obama, having been a lawyer, doesn't seem skilled in the art of negotiating. You would think that as a lawyer, he would know how to have an objective in terms of legislative deals, then negotiate to get something that meets or exceeds the objective.

Remember that during the debate on health care, Obama actually took a back seat, simply encouraging Congress to send a bill that he could either sign or veto.

That is not the Reagan method to pass a political agenda. During the debate on the 1981 tax cut, Reagan invited many members of Congress to the White House for discussions and then worked out a compromise that he felt was acceptable to both the Republican leadership and his voting base. Instead of 3 consecutive cuts of 10%, it went 10-10-5.
06:06 PM on 07/27/2011
Problem is he *taught* law. You gotta know how to 'throw a punch,' and he just can't.
10:24 AM on 07/26/2011
I never understood why the president got so deeply involved in the debt ceiling issue so early on. It is a matter for congress first, since congress has the power of the purse, not the president. All the president needed to do in the early stages was send a note to congress requesting the debt ceiling increase by the deadline. Then he could have been focusing the media's attention on other things that required his direct involvment. Once the congressional negotiations got too close for comfort, say three days from the deadline, the president could then step in as the savior of the day, since whatever compromise he proposed would have to be accepted at such a late hour. The president is correct in stating that the debt ceiling deals with expenditures already authorized, so congress cannot turn around and say that it wasn't raised in time because the president refused to get involved early in the negotiations, if he had chosen to keep a lower profile. This is the worst advised president in history. Time and again we see him jumping on a publicity bandwagon that all the world can see is only reducing his stature, when his advisors should have been urging him to hold back, to protect the dignity of his office and use it sparingly.
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06:36 PM on 07/26/2011
Sorry but I disagree,the Pres has the BULLY PULPIT and should have used it with HEALTH CARE
and the DEBT CEILING. He should use it early and often. He is a great orator for petes sake.
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Moonspirit48
Happy to be alive ...
12:28 AM on 07/27/2011
#3.
08:09 AM on 07/27/2011
You are right, the "pres" is a bully (that is the only way he got the health care passed) and he is a pretty good orator ... when the telepromts are working!
But I totally agree with mcmchlsmth!