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Craig Crawford

Craig Crawford

Posted: January 20, 2010 05:07 PM

What If Hillary Had Won?

What's Your Reaction:

Would it be different after exactly one year? 54% think we're on the wrong track. 40% say President Obama has done worse than expected (nearly one-in-five Democrats say so). Health "reform" is in shambles. Off-year obama_hillary.jpgelections have been disastrous for Democrats. Or maybe the question should be: Could things be any worse with Hillary Clinton as president? I suppose it's an unanswerable question, but just asking. (source: Zogby International)

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samjer
03:45 PM on 01/24/2010
Of course Hillary would have been the better pick for prez. Experience does matter.
Obamas bad showing in the primary debates should have been a clue to this.
Hopey changey isnt working. Never has. Obamas campaigne pledges were just fabrications to get into office and all of us are paying the price.
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02:32 PM on 01/30/2010
Hillary's Experience? Being Mrs. Bill Clinton doesn't qualify her to lead the nation and the world.

Btw, Obama now has a year of experince BEING president. He prevented a full blown economic drepression, has made more progress on health care reform that the Clintons ever did, is delivering on his commitment to end Bush and Hillary's War in Iraq by summer 2010.

Why continue to attack President Obama in bitter frustration over Hillary's failure as a candidate? Think about the nation, maybe? He is our president for three, and likely seven more years. Do you really think the Republicans offer better alternatives, or do are you judging him now so you can satisfying your desperate need to say a bitter "I told you so?
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07:22 AM on 01/24/2010
What if HIllary had won? We would likely be in the midst of a political Civil War, with other headlines focused on distortions, mis-statements, and internal backbiting, and of course the enternal Clinton soap opera marriage. Good we were spared all of that distraction.
07:08 PM on 01/23/2010
Hillary would have been an outstanding President.

She would not been afraid to confront Pelosi, Reid or the Republicans. She always said the republicans were strong, smart and relentless. She knew that they would not sing kumbiyah, hold hands, and pass legislation they fundamentally disagreed with just because Obama was full of hope and asking nice.

Obama was fantastic at campaigning but he had not been in the national office long enough to build a reputation. He has very little leverage and in DC that works against you. Many big insiders wanted Obama because they knew they could push him around, but the short-sightedness and disloyalty inside their own party is drawing negative karma.

But look at Hillary's forty year record to tell you what kind of President she would've been. Take a look at SCHIP, pell grants, foster Care, HIPPIE, her accomplished senate voting record and the millions of dollars worth of benefits she AND republicans fought and got for veterans.

Now we all must pay the price of hiring a President who needs on-the-job-training during war time in one of the worst recessions in American history.

Now we all know what Hillary supporters used chant at their rallies:

"Yes We Can" is not a plan!
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samjer
04:00 PM on 01/24/2010
Exactly! Fanned! The people who critisize Hillary are the ones who deserve most of the ridicule for buying into his BS in the primaries and are still buying into it now. I just dont know how many broken promises Obama has to make before they relize that HE made them, not her.
02:02 PM on 01/22/2010
If Hillary had been President:

-HealthCare would have truly been UNIVERSAL, with a strong Public Option put on the table as bargaining chip if not Single-Payer!

-Senate would have acted like a MAJORITY, not a bunch of wimpy, short-panted "What do we have to do to cave in the Republicans' way of doing things?" confused and misguided juniors!

-Wall Street would have strong regulations that would ensure their fiasco would not be repeated

-Medicare would not be robbed of 500 billion to support an Insurance-Reform Bill!

-Foreclosures would be negotiated and made part of legislative solution (remember her campaign?)

-US foreign policy would not be confused and no way she'd have sent 30,000 troops to Afghanistan--the money could be used for Health care at home

-She be working hard and not SLEPT IN SUMMER, dropping the ball on Health-Care Reform letting the Republicans pick it up and turn it to a Tea Bag Party phenom that keeps on growing

-She'd PART of the Democratic and Independents' Tea Bag Phenom!

-She'd have earned Respect for her Tough Efforts; and

--for rolling up her Sleeves and not playing Golf/basketball while the country burns!...

HRC would not have been a crybaby as evidenced from Barack's remarks during the campaign when it was evident he couldn't take the "heat", WHINING...

"Periodically, when she feels "down", Hillary starts launching attacks against (poor) me to boost her appeal"!~~~

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And we'd have a WORKHORSE, not a SHOWHORSE-IN-CHIEF!
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07:27 AM on 01/24/2010
Given that Hillary failed miserably to establish herself as honest and trusthworhty, to lead successful healthcare reform in 1992-94, and that Bill Clinton de-regulated Wall Street in 1999, Hillary supported the Iraq War and use of force against Iran, and could not lead a successful, solvent, strategic, unifed campaign..... your claims of what she could have accomplished as present seem wildly exaggerated.
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samjer
04:17 PM on 01/24/2010
Right on the money, Memi!
Some people try to beat up Hillary to puff up Obama. We know better. Somehow I dont see any acountability for his hollow retoric during the campaigne but we can hope for change or is it change for hope.
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02:38 PM on 01/30/2010
too funny. HillaryLand applauds HillaryLand. Do you share a desk at the State Department?
11:35 PM on 01/20/2010
wow I just left this comment in reply to another commentators question earlier today...

It's impossible to know, but for some reason I think we will find out from her own words if Obama doesn't get his act together.. The Republicans framed her as polarizing in the 90s IMO and certain Democratic haters who still buy into this are perfect examples at what last night showed about the electorate in this country. I voted for her because she's a fighter and the 90s proved it.
If she still is at 70% approval rating and doing a great job as SOS. If the progressive message is still a PR nightmare it wouldn't surprise me if she sees the opportunity to frame a "Teddy v Carter" primary to in '12.
Fact is the 18 mil who voted for her in the primary weren't all PUMAs. I know voters who were ridiculed and made to feel ashamed for the thought of supportering her instead of Obama. I'm not a PUMA but I am one of those voters and would vote for her again if she chose to run.
02:16 PM on 01/22/2010
Azurino

Well said! PUMAS were actually both disenchanted with the Obama Campaign's strong-arm tactics dictated by Axelrod and Rahm and the fraudulent caucuses and the ignominious push for delegates to push Hillary off the ring while she was winning the primaries! The PUMAS were hard-working white, black and latino Americans and men and women who wanted a workhorse, not a showhorse to work for them in Washington.

PUMAS left Obama due to these tactics of harassing women with Hillary signs on their cars, sexist remarks, even violence; they were tired of being treated like second-class citizens by the Democratic party (they put the "mock" in Democracy!) and voted en mass, whilst holding their Democratic nose, for McCain. If it weren't for the sudden economic meltdown and the media's apotheosis of the inexperienced Chicago senator, the PUMA movement would not have been born in the first place!

PUMAS were true Independents and dissafected, poorly understood Democratic voters. And they all wanted Hillary's Universal HealthCare --Public Option for All! They trusted Hillary's record. Barack, altho well-meaning and with excellent baritone voice and rhetoric delivery, had none other than 'present' votes in the Senate! He was a manufactured "brand" well orchestrated by huge corporate interests!

The populist was, and is, Hillary! But it's too late for lamenting what could have been, isn't it? We already know what hasn't happened that we were promised. Forget about HealthCare Reform. It's all about Insurance-Reform and no one needs this sham!
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02:40 PM on 01/30/2010
If you know history, and don't simply wallow in bitterness, progress often comes in smaller steps, not great leaps. Health Care reform is a marathon. At least Obama, unlike the arrogant my way or no way Clintons, has gotten it started. Perfect? no way Progress? oh yes.
08:30 PM on 01/20/2010
Fair question. I believe that Hillary knows full well what Repubs are. She surely would have taken a liberal approach. Conservatives are a relentless evil force and she understands that. Taking a centrist approach is a waste of time and energy. We need real reform not the PR insanity we see every day in this fascist country. Stop the lobbyists and corporate special interest and this country might survive. Leave it as is and more fascism is sure to come. I warned you...
07:07 PM on 01/20/2010
Don't just ask the question, Mr. Crawford, please provide us with some scenarios. You have me in suspense, and I'd like the opinion of a political analyst like yourself and a dozen more.
06:57 PM on 01/20/2010
And you are "just asking" because? With friends like you guys, who needs repubs?
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06:34 PM on 01/20/2010
Hillary understands how Washington works, and she's not afraid of anybody. She wouldn't be wasting time trying to negotiate with those who have no interest in negotiation. Therefore, I think she would have been more effective as President.
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07:30 AM on 01/24/2010
Hillary helped create "how Washington works, " and the Clintons are mega millionaires while the nation suffers because she has played the game well. If she was president, she would simply have more influence to sell, and be dependent on Bill for leadership.
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06:03 PM on 01/20/2010
You would be allowing Israel to kill even more Palestinians.
05:54 PM on 01/20/2010
Hillary Clinton would have appointed many of the same advisors adding of course such luminaries as Penn and Lannie Davis and come up with a health care bill almost identical to this terrible plan and her foreign policy would be like any right wing democrat with the added twist of her's being more influenced by the reactionary religious cult called the family with whom she prays regularly.
05:39 PM on 01/20/2010
If Hillary had won, the foreign policy would probably be identical but the domestic policies would have been completely different and we saw it during the primaries. She had a more progressive plan for healthcare reform and the housing market just to cite a couple of issues. Moreover, she's more of a fighter for her believes than the current president. As for the chronic CDS patients, what part of piece and prosperity did not you like in the 90's?
05:23 PM on 01/20/2010
No difference. He appointed all Bill's old advisors.
05:12 PM on 01/20/2010
We're WAY better off with Obama than we would be with any of the alternatives! I shudder to think about version 2.0 of Whitewater and Travelgate were Hillary in the oval office. Not to mention Bill on the prowl for all the interns he can eat. No, thank you.