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A Buddhist Vision of Life Beyond Consumerism

Posted: 10/25/10 07:16 PM ET

Are there alternatives to consumerism? Other than a dreary alternative such as loss of a job, a prolonged economic downturn or the stealth tax of inflation?

What is it, this consumerism? It's the assiduous promotion of cravings which our economic system, at least until recently, has somewhat satisfied: "Your neighbor has it. You will be happy when you get it. You can have it now on easy credit." The amping up of desire for stuff is so normal here that it's hard to imagine another approach to life.

Recently, I came across an old box with photos of my maternal grandfather and some clippings from his youth. There were already ads when he was young, but they seem so naive, displaying an object for its own sake, not associating it with sexy women, power, speed or species that vehicles are named after.

My grandfather had much less materially than my parents, but as I know from taking long walks with him, telling stories, playing games, helping him build a boat, he was happy. How was that?

I thought of him when reading the new book by Stephen Batchelor, author of the wildly popular Buddhism Without Beliefs. Buddhist practice teaches that life is full of suffering and suffering comes from cravings. The trouble with cravings is that they often can't be satisfied and, when they are, the objects may vanish or degrade. And, in any case, they usually don't "make us happy," or, if so, not for long.

In this view, a system of implanting cravings by sellers who hope to profit by them, of exacerbating desire, would be crazy. The question is, why would you do that? Of course, people need the basics such as shelter, clean air and water, food, clothing, education, health care, the ability to work. But as Joe Dominguez and Vicki Robin asked in their classic, Your Money Or Your Life, to what extent does it serve you to mortgage your life to get more and then more?

The service offered by Batchelor is to get to what he regards as the core of Buddhist practice, free of "accretions" imposed by various Asian traditions. Of course, some westerners are attracted to Buddhism in part by the rich Baroque trappings of the Tibetans, the subtle Theravada traditions of southeast Asia or the spare paradoxes in Zen cultures. But other westerners want a practice they feel is more suitable for a scientific and democratic society.

Having been a monk in two of three Asian traditions (Tibetan and Korean), Batchelor sought what he regards as Buddha's basic realization. In his writing, he even set aside such crucial elements of traditional Buddhism as rebirth and karma, not denying that the founder taught these doctrines, but attributing them to the Hindu world in which he'd grown up and arguing that they aren't necessary to Buddha's genius as expressed in the "four noble truths."

Within Buddhism, Bachelor's heresy is not to do without the concept of divinity (the founder was agnostic about metaphysics), but rather to set aside any realm other than our life on earth and to accept the possibility of death as oblivion. This is a delicate point because the prestige of Tibetan religious leaders, starting with the Dalai Lama, depends in part on the claim to be reincarnations and because the finality of death is almost unimaginable to most of us.

What a waste to obtain the necessities of life, guard against danger, form attachments to other humans and accumulate knowledge, and then poof, it's all gone like photo albums when a house burns down. This would be almost as unthinkable as a process of evolution. What human would design so slow, wasteful and unfair a process? Batchelor's point here would be that the gist of Buddhist dharma practice is being aware of what's here, now, rather than placing hope, without evidence, in a happier life after death.

Insofar as we can see the situation of Gautama, he had been living the life of a prince. His house was not in foreclosure, he was not forced into the life of a wandering ascetic. The "middle way" that he eventually found was not forced on him by the global peak of oil production, by global warming or by economic breakdown. He felt his realization or awakening was superior to the affluent life of his time.

In the phrase of the brilliant British journalist George Monbiot, "nobody ever rioted for austerity." Monbiot acknowledges this political fact in a book called Heat, about a painstaking and ambitious plan for reducing carbon emissions enough to avoid the worst ravages of global warming. A masterpiece of understatement, his phrase conjures the unlikelihood of a parade with placards calling for less affluence; it fails to mention the widespread phenomenon of denial.

I don't know whether the Buddha ever rioted for austerity, but he certainly counseled against arousing rampant desire, especially as a way of life. But what can we do instead? Change comes eventually less from just a critique of a prevailing system than from the building of a new system, of something that doubters can jump to and help in the next stage of building.

In his new book, Batchelor tells his personal story, reaffirms his understanding of dharma practice and offers speculation about challenges that Buddha faced in creating a new way of thinking and acting. This last task is especially tricky, because the writings called the Pali Canon are roughly as far in time from the founder as we from Shakespeare. (Imagine if we had the plays only through an oral tradition.) But Batchelor asks himself, given what we do know, how would a man with Buddha's basic awakening proceed in the world of his time? We'll never know for sure, but a coherent account at least provides an armature on which to build.

To return to the original question: Is there an alternative to consumerism? If the future will be less affluent than the past, for whatever reasons -- we don't know -- will we cling to a system that is failing, or will we have adopted new basic premises? If the latter, what are values that don't depend on having a growing amount of stuff?

 
 
 
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09:13 PM on 10/31/2010
As a practitioner of the Nyingma tradition of Tibetan Buddhism while also familiar with other traditions (including the Kagyu & Geluk within the Tibetan lineages as well as Zen & Theravada among the wider traditions of the Buddhadharma) as well as Eastern Orthodox Christianity fueled by an upbringing by a rational atheist father and a graduate education in Cultural Anthropology, I find the key to all of these discussions to come back to actual experience of the Dharma supported by not only a formal practice but by living it in relation to those around us. The tradition depicts the Buddha as refusing to answer metaphysical questions because they are a distraction from plucking the arrow of suffering from our chest. Words & concepts, dogmas and categories can confuse as well as clarify, it all depends on our spiritual maturity. Don't confuse the menu for the meal, the finger pointing at the moon for the moon itself. Remain true to clarity of mind & practicing kindness in the world, and don't worry so much about the conflicting claims of the various traditions.
01:53 PM on 10/31/2010
'Change comes eventually less from just a critique of a prevailing system than from the building of a new system, of something that doubters can jump to and help in the next stage of building. "
...Cradle to Cradle addresses this squarely and much more scientifically than austerity vs. consumerism. It is in terms of spiral dynamics a view from a higher place on the spiral.
08:49 PM on 10/28/2010
"What a waste to obtain the necessities of life, guard against danger, form attachments to other humans and accumulate knowledge, and then poof, it's all gone like photo albums when a house burns down. This would be almost as unthinkable as a process of evolution. What human would design so slow, wasteful and unfair a process? Batchelor's point here would be that the gist of Buddhist dharma practice is being aware of what's here, now, rather than placing hope, without evidence, in a happier life after death. " -- "What human would design so slow, wasteful and unfair a process?" Isn't the point that humans aren't the designer? Nor is the imaginary god of the Abrahamic tradition. It is what it is. Buddhism seems to be about recognizing that suffering comes from our attachments to the stuff and to the constructs we make to explain our existence. Peace comes from within, from the acceptance of our condition, and from taking "right action" within that context.
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09:38 PM on 10/28/2010
I just got the book today and started it. So far I like what I see. Being an Alan Watts follower , Batchelor may be too "mainstream" though.
I think our attachments come from our fear of the future.
If I can pile up enough food ,gold,STUFF, I'll be safe tomorrow. If some stuff is good a lot of stuff must mean I'm successfull and safe.
I picture the last human being, a man standing amid the wreck and ruin of Mother Earth proudly proclaiming " All the toys belong to me now. I'm the Winner !!

Ohh! Let me be wrong.
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06:24 AM on 10/29/2010
ignorance prevents right action therefore the origin of suffering is ignorance.

find a buddhist that understands that simple statement. ie a few do.

now suppose there were no ignorance. not a drop.

reflection is a must here.

there would be no individualized entities as a unique self, just isness and call isness anything you want. no us just is and every is would be identical.

we owe our soul to our ignorance and that ignorance came from the process known as involution from oneness to many.

the combination of ignorance and intelligence (not smarts but intellignece, world of difference) develops each and every soul unique. not two souls have ever been alike.

we are expressions of the infinite and unique expressions, even every snowflake is unique. how is that for infinite doing its thing.
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I'm in the art world, for Pete's sake.
05:55 PM on 10/28/2010
I'm glad Comstock's intro didn't include "writer." This article is a rambling mess. There is really no reason to refer so many times to Stephen Bachelor. Is he trying to promote his books? Was Bachelor the first student of Buddhism to realize that suffering comes of craving? He doesn't need to introduce "Bachelor's wildly popular book," to talk about craving causing suffering-- its pretty basic to the teachings. Things and even ideas are not important-- even karma and rebirth-- but especially fine possessions, clothing and such.
One gets the impression that Comstock's entire knowledge of buddhism comes from reading Stephen Bachelor.
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09:49 PM on 10/28/2010
It is basic to we who have been reading for years. Hopefully this book will be attractive to Americans who might not want all the Asian trappings. I'm not against Asian, I do Bonsai, read Haiku and Buddhist books, but Buddha's message should fit into any culture from Inuit to Wall Street.
If it was his first Buddhist book He must have been impressed.
I just realized this is not a "Chan/Zen Buddhist book , but it reminds me of one so far.
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04:19 PM on 10/29/2010
I guess I take exception to the implication that only through an atheist or stripped down version of Buddhism a la Bachelor does one get the idea that there is another way besides consumerism. Central to Buddhist teaching of any ilk is that one needs to find contentment within. Whether you have shabby stuff or the fanciest stuff--you are content. Not only is Re-birth not necessary for this but Bachelor is very unnecessary for this revelation.
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08:44 PM on 11/03/2010
The reason the article refers many times to Batchelor is that it takes off from his work, or more particularly, from one aspect of his understanding of Buddhism (a vision that can be rejected, but not on the ground that it’s exotic). The commenter is obviously right that the relation between craving and suffering is basic to Buddhism, but as the headline makes clear, the article was focused on “a vision†of Buddha’s thought, not “the†vision. I know one meditation teacher who’d be surprised by the “impression†that the writer’s knowledge of the dharma comes exclusively from reading Batchelor.
04:26 PM on 10/28/2010
Mr. Comstock, I've read your article twice and I'm still not sure what Bachelor found as Buddha's basic insight. Look at what Buddha tried that didn't work. The basic finding, likely, is that the BODY can be used as an instrument which responds to all that the universe is--same as the Christian idea that man is made in God's image. The universe is change and vibration, and so is life in the body. 'Sitting' is to quiet the mind with its false input about its own needs and wants, such as reincarnation and eternal life. There are a lot of meditators who think that Buddhism, etc, is about peace and forgiveness, but that is their own subtle wishes bouncing off the inside of their skull. If this body and all that it is in touch with is all that is, then we don't need any more experience elsewhere, or 'again'. However, some raja yoga (psychology) is needed to put into order and to use the information which comes from the body--some of it is scary and deceptive. After the basics are worked through, the universe 'helps'. "No consciousness without form"--the body must be healthy for the mind to get good info. Some, following the post-Socratic and Western philosophers, believe that a person can ‘forgive’ with their mind, and all is well—tell that to a heart attack victim who has denied (wished, forgiven) that he is mad at his boss and his job.
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10:44 AM on 10/29/2010
I don't think Mr. Comstock is going to be able to explain fully what Bachelor is teaching.
So far I'm finding Bachler is ,except for one term, using western terms to explain the teachings of Buddha . I've read so many books in English that use Eastern Terminology I find myself "missing" the Indian terms when I read them in Bachelor's English.
12:21 PM on 11/01/2010
olmossy, thanks for the info and 'warning' that Bachelor is fuzzy :)
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01:07 PM on 10/28/2010
I no longer buy China if I can help it. I shop good will,savers, salvation army and garage sales. I always find treasures and i don't feel guilty about benifitting from marxist slave labor . For food I go to farmers markets. It is fresher and chemical free. It is my protest against the corporate takeover of our government. I try to simplifiy Christmas and do more family oriented events rather than buy things.
03:51 AM on 10/28/2010
Although I agree with the basic observation of the writer I have to take issue with the one-sided way he addresses consumerism. Of course there are negative drawbacks to our throw away culture, however, there are many advantages as well.

Could you imagine living without the internet, flight, computers, cell phones, and cars? Well if you can great, but I certainly would not want too. All of these products are a RESULT of 500 + years of money. (search Medici)

If you are not a materialist, congratulations. You are a focused person. However, could you imagine not having modern medicine, also a direct result of the evolution of the world economy since Medici. Imagine another bubonic plague wiping out 40-60% of the population. Progress is good, and progress is DUE TO manufacturing and consumerism.
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03:48 PM on 10/28/2010
Technology is neutral, not good or bad. I can't think of any particular benefit cell phones have had on society. The impact of cars has been predominately negative, as we are seeing with global warming. The internet has the potential to be a great innovation leading to a more global community and more independent thought, but its potential has not yet been fully realized.

The only progress comes from increasing awareness and compassion, not technology, which is neutral. Right now we need to buy fewer things, drive fewer cars, have smaller houses, etc. Otherwise, we will cause our extinction through environmental calamity.
07:48 AM on 10/29/2010
Not downplaying the importance of increasing awareness, it's an undercurrent of events. The cumulative advances made by industry directly result in the progress that has allowed us to reach 6 billion. Has there been difficulty, of course. Moderation in consumption has been occuring and will continue to occur. Technological advance will continue to be upwardly parabolic. These advances over time will easily overcome the negatives, like environmental calamity.

The world had a chance to destroy itself (nuclear), it chose not too. We're cool man.
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09:03 PM on 10/27/2010
Well, I've found Buddhist-type ideas helpful on my own journey away from consumerism. Over the past 5 years, I've increasingly focused on "right speech" (being honest and authentic) and "right action" (becoming vegan and abstaining from physical violence). I have honed my ability to stay focused on the present and recognize the impermanence of all form. I've practiced mindfulness.

And corollary to this, I've started to feel less attached to physical objects. I see through commercials more easily now, and I crave less the thrill of spending money and accumilating possessions. I've had insight into how many of my so-called "desires" are actually not intrisic to who I am but merely thought and emotional patterns I picked up from my social environment. This self-awareness has allowed me to focus more deeply on what actually interests me.
03:42 AM on 10/28/2010
While I GREATLY admire your evolution towards what can be described as modest behavior I have to take issue with your practical nature.

Maybe your situation allows you to be and grow in that selfless direction but I would argue that most people are surrounded by the realities of modern life, with no way out. Consciously choosing to be less aggressive, and less consumptious could be misinterpreted as weakness and timidness. This misrepresented observation from others could have all kinds of negative results, none of which were intentional.
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01:20 PM on 10/28/2010
And yet If we would have the world change The only way to change it is to become the change we seek. I can't ask Unerrante and other people to do the changing. Quite possibley some act of unattachement may be seen and someone else tries it and likes the freedom. And others and others and it snow balls into an avallanche of simplicity. You never know... It could happen.
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03:41 PM on 10/28/2010
My situation has allowed me to grow in this direction, which is fortunate. Circumstances such as heavy financial debt, a high-stress job, or an oppressive family situation can really trap and blind people; and I am lucky to not have any of those problems right now.

I disagree, however, that becoming less aggressive and less consumptious would have bad results for most people. They only believe it would have bad results for them. You seem to place undue importance on how people interpret one's behavior. If you are trying to rise in the social hierarchy, trying to control other people's perceptions of you can be important. Trying to rise in the social hierarchy, however, leads to unhappiness--exactly because it causes you to care more about other people's perceptions of you than your own perceptions, cutting you off from your own experiences.
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04:34 PM on 10/27/2010
“For discussions of human will and realityâ€

The term free will as it is being taught by the masses (i.e. religion) is a fallacy. The word free in front of term free will in my mind makes it an erroneous belief. We do have a will to choose but it is not free of our unawareness of our divine reality that we did not create. We did not create our ignorance i.e. our unawareness. I.e. the involution process.

We do have choices but those choices have boundaries and again those boundaries are our created/manifested ignorance. Ignorance is always the culprit even in the case of a Hitler type. As we become more aware of our oneness with all that is, which is the Real, we make better choices based in love and divine intelligence.

When people respond they should have known better they fail to understand if they knew better they would not have made that destructive choice. A whole host of misguided desires or attachments or cravings can overwhelm the mind. Misguided desires, attachments and cravings have one thing in common: ignorance of our divine reality.

A study of the involution and evolution of consciousness process is a worthwhile study for any sincere seeker into these mysteries of life. We are advancing towards greater and greater awareness of reality i.e. the Real. At a snails pace but Infinite is in no hurry as time is not an issue.
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04:18 PM on 10/27/2010
I view the term unawareness as a synonym for ignorance for this reason: I believe that consciousness is a flow of thoughts and awareness as the ability to see the underlying reality of phenomena, which is temporal and transient but not an illusion as Sri Aurobindo rightly teaches in his quote below:

‘The world is a manifestation of the Real and therefore is itself real.â€

That infinite awareness/consciousness is the creative principle beyond matter and the (transcendent observer); that is observing these “flow of thoughtsâ€. I have discovered that consciousness is the creative expression and manifestation of this infinite awareness and dynamic potential that most call “Godâ€.

The only way Isness can express its infinite oneness is through relative phenomenal expressions; hence we have a relative phenomenal world, indeed worlds or dimensions. I.e. light dimensions. We are Beings of light so to speak.

We are not illusions or nothingness as some teach and the Real cannot be seen except in its expressions but the Real can be realized and we can become aware of this Isness. Now emptiness is not nothingness, it is the real. I.e. infinite awareness, where consciousness is that that is expressing itself, which is necessity.
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10:09 PM on 10/28/2010
Good Job Researcher. Seriously
Now , please say the same thing in about 12 words in three lines. And you will have a real hit.
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04:05 PM on 10/27/2010
"I'd say, Buddhism can be a religion, but it doesn't have to be. For me its main teachings are a profound revealing of the human psychology and condition in life."

but all religions dont have to be a "religion" we can take the teachings and find our unique path and benefit from those teachings.

by religion I dont mean the prophets words but how people tend to make those prophets teachings the only valid teachings and then they miss out on others teachings. their mind kind of shuts down.

this shut down mode is what I mean by the paradigm effect. I taught the paradigm effect in several seminars during my consulting career and it had an impact on my thoughts.

now I agree with you I need to explain myself better and say most and not imply that all that follow a religion have to be religious dogma and not be open to new teachings.

as I blog I have noticed that once a person identifies with a certain religion and as I dialog with them for some reason they cannot see outside their religion,s teachings.

there are always exceptions of course and it appears you may be one of those exceptions.

my writing style is harsh and it is not always so much what we say but how we say it.

I am a work in process, hopefully progress, as we all are. thanks for calling me on this. much needed. :-)
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02:30 PM on 10/27/2010
Great idea and article.

A good step would be defining this section as "Spirit" or "Spirituality" instead of "Religion".

The word 'religion' means re-ligare or re-connect, which unfortunately, but accurately, implies separation while spirit is always within. If we thought of being spiritual instead of religious there would be no implicit need for consumption.

Focused on self-knowledge instead of dogmatic consumption we could then evolve beyond consumerism on other levels.

Just an idea. Think about it, if your paradigm allows it. Or shift the paradigm!
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04:54 AM on 10/27/2010
15 centuries is not 25 centuries.

do you realize that all religions claim that their teachings are valid from their prophets words that he spoke.

this is religion defined and buddhism is a religion.

now that being said it is a worthwhile study but if you accept it as your religion then the mind shuts down and as much as I hate to say it again and again the paradigm effect takes over.

as I stated few in the world understand the true nature of the paradigm effect. cindbird is one of those.

religion and politics gives us daily example of this phenomenon.

we view the world through our paradigms. it is more than cherished beliefs because we admit to our cherished beliefs but paradigms are hidden from our view.

a whole library in memory for over three hundred years. this belief fails to understand the nature of the human mind. I might add: unaware human minds.

when we dont understand something we write it in our words of understanding or make it fit (here we go again) our cherished beliefs or paradigms. sorry. :-)

once we become religious any religion we no longer see the face of reality. we are blinded by you know what. even materialists are blinded by their you know what. and materialism is a religion.
08:29 AM on 10/27/2010
In his new book, Steven Hawking (and co-author), talk about the issue of free will. He concedes that scientifically there can be none, but also there is no way to understand what we are and do as a causal reality because the causal reality is far too complex. Free will is an "effective theory", like any scientific theory that works at the macro level even thought it's not what is really happening at the base level of reality. We can think scientifically, rationally, psychologically about our "will" and have it mean something.

I would go farther and say that the issue is not free will, but the "agent" that has the free will. It is the agent which is the "effective theory". The self agent or God agent is an effective theory of something else that exists but is far too complex to understand as the physical process that it is. But it's not a theory of our conscious reason, but rather a theory of the brain that is running the show. It's the way our brain represents the world to us in our experience in order that our body can survive and replicate. We don't have a choice of effective theories. We will never "see" the face of reality. Our experience is all a paradigm created by the brain. There is nothing in it that is "real". We can only think about what is real. And, as Hawking points out, what is real is incomprehensibly complex and determined.
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09:46 AM on 10/27/2010
For discussions of human will and reality, I find such views as described here unattractive. To say that nothing is real yet we can only think about what is real is gibberish. Further to say that was is real is determined is more gibberish, as is the distinction between the brain and conscious reason.

If you are going to try to do the job of philosophy, I suggest you read a philosopher. I recommend Ted Toadvine's MERLEAU-PONTY'S PHILOSOPOHY OF NATURE. He does not offer any easy answers, either. But at least he makes his philosophical assertions within the context of a learned philosopher. Hawking may be a great mathematician, but his philosophy reeks.
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03:33 PM on 10/27/2010
If as you say our brains will never see the face of reality. Where did the concept of "the face of reality" come from, if not from the same brain ? Somewhere other than our brains?
So our brains consieve a "face of reality" but can't really see it ?
One can see the world all his life with blinders on, when one day (possibly) they drop off ( even for a moment) the world is seen in a different way. Nothing changed except your way of seeing it. and the fading memory of that seeing.
We have nothing but our ordinary every day brain to see and describe the universe.
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02:52 PM on 10/27/2010
Enjoyed your comments and fanned you. Yet, here I must disagree slightly:

You state "do you realize that all religions claim that their teachings are valid from their prophets words that he spoke.
this is religion defined and buddhism is a religion."

I'd say, Buddhism can be a religion, but it doesn't have to be. For me its main teachings are a profound revealing of the human psychology and condition in life.

What I find more important is the measure in which I, or any other individual, can find truth, and therefore reason and logic, in what is being shared. Thereafter, the individual can discover for themselves the truth in their own spiritual experience -- independently of the religious dogma spewed by some voice.

Religions can respect some truth, but only individuals can experience it. Insofar individuals are free to live beyond dogma, they manifest spirit in the ever-changing now, without requiring suffering nor religion.
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04:13 AM on 10/27/2010
It is not about the rules. It is why th rules were there in the first place?
We stop at a red light not because it is against the rules or there may be cops around the corner.
We stop brecause if we don't we may cause an accient and suffering to other people.
If there are kids traveling with us it is also a good example to them.
It is the same with the Vinaya rules.
For those who already understand and practice morality like Sariputta and Mogallana they do not need the Vinaya to guide them because are already practicing them.
But for those who just joined the Sangha they need to break their bad habits and the Vinaya rules to them are important.
Eventually when one sees for one self the danger of attachment then one let go of everthing even the Dharma. You don't carry the boat around on your back once you have crosed to the other shore.
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02:31 AM on 10/27/2010
What Stephen Bachelor advocates is NOT Buddhism. It is no more true Buddhism than The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary is a true rendering of the Tibetan Book of the Dead. His Buddhism removes even Buddha. Or at least tries to re-work him into nothing more than another Indian Philosopher. He calls himself a "Buddhist Atheist". He became disillusioned with the strict rules of monastic life and decided that although Buddhism has been around for 2,500 years, we really don't need all that icky "Asian stuff" to be Buddhist. By his own admission, he would remove the Vinaya (rules for monks and nuns) from the Pali Canon. It forms 1/3 of the Canon. By removing the most basic tenets, i.e. karma and rebirth, Bachelor does nothing more than turn Buddhism into another cult or New Age pseudo-religion.
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03:26 AM on 10/27/2010
This blog has drawn so many comments worthy of being considered and elucidated. I just want to say a word about the two comments contributed by “cindbird,†who directly challenges Batchelor’s right to call himself a Buddhist and my reference to the Pali Canon. I’m familiar with the legend that “ALL the Buddha’s Teachings...remained unchanged†in the centuries between his death and the writing down that became the Pali Canon, which fills an entire bookcase. As for the assertion that “what Stephen Batchelor advocates is NOT Buddhism,†if this means “traditional†or “religious†Buddhism, the commenter is correst, as the blog makes clear. I’d encourtage any reader who is curious what Batchelor does offer to click on the link to his website, and make up his or her own mind
10:37 AM on 10/27/2010
I think Cindbird has a point. In fact, I posted something along these lines myself but, despite being somewhat more mild than what Cindbird says, it got eaten by Huffpost's moderators.

My point was threefold: 1) The Buddha himself classified the view that death is oblivion to be a species of nihilism and therefore an extreme view to be abandoned. 2) That's because, if death is final, then suffering ends with death. This undermines the need to walk the path to end suffering. Indeed, the 3rd noble truth, of nirvana, is moksha (liberation) precisely because it is liberation from the continuous cycle of birth and death. 3) All traditions of Buddhism, Theravadin, Tibetan and East Asian, affirm the centrality of karma and rebirth to the Buddhadharma. I must point out that "Buddhism" a fortiori means "traditional Buddhism." Buddhism is a tradition. It has always established its authenticity by tracing a lineage back to the Buddha himself, whose authority comes from his awakening under the bodhi tree. That awakening included knowledge of all his past lives. Indeed, especially in the Vajrayana, the subtlest mysteries of karma, rebirth, and continuity are thought to be intimately connected with the nature of reality itself. That's not to say that what Batchelor offers isn't valuable, but it's misleading to call it "Buddhism."
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08:35 PM on 10/27/2010
Maybe Bachelor is a Buddhist, maybe not.

One more point: not all Buddhists think--as you seem to--that ritual and "Asian stuff" is essential to becoming enlightened.

"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies. My brain and my heart are my temples. My philosophy is kindness."

--The Dalai Lama