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Yeah Unions!

Posted: 03/ 4/11 02:46 PM ET

If you are wondering why the right to collective bargaining is so important for union workers here is a story about my father.

My dad, Aldo, was a Longshoreman in Brooklyn from 1955 to 2001. In 1978 when the shippers wanted to containerize the docks they were going to save lot of money and a lot of union jobs were going to be lost. That is the way it would have gone down had it not been for my father's union, local 1814 of the International Longshoreman's Union (ILA). Led by Anthony Scotto the union organized bitter strikes and got a guarantee from the shippers that every man working gets 2080 hours of work a year (that's 40 hours a week) until they reached retirement age. Read Story. Before containerization it took 100 men a week of backbreaking work (e.g. carrying 100 pound bags of coffee beans off the ships). With the containers 45 men could do it over night.

Instead of losing his job my dad got guaranteed paid till the day he would have normally retired whether he worked or not. One condition was that he had to shape up every day. In other words show up and report to be ready to work. What happened is that the guys with the least amount of seniority got called to work first. Because he'd been there for over 20 years he had AAA seniority. By ten AM if he wasn't needed - and he rarely was - he got to go home and still get paid for the days work. Till 10 AM he hung out playing cards with his pals in the shape up hall. After 10AM he went to the diner in Brooklyn to continue playing cards and to flirt with Emelia, a beautiful waitress, who ended up as my dad's late life girlfriend.

What advantage then was containerization to the shippers if they still had to pay the workers for 40 hours a week? The ships got unloaded in one day rather than a week. Also there was no loss of products. Though a container here or there might disappear the content was pretty much safe locked up in the containers. Theft was a big loss item in the old days.

This was a great example about how the right of collective bargaining caused productivity gains to get shared by the workers and the employers. Normally what happens is the employers get richer and the workers get no gains or worse, lose jobs.

Also thanks to the union, wealth disparity was abated. Rather than the shippers making a lot more money because of the savings they only made more money while my father and his co-workers kept the income they had from their jobs. Over time as my father and his co-workers retired they were not replaced benefiting the shippers even more.

Finally my dad gave or lent his kids all the money he made in his senior years from that guaranteed job and my siblings and I started our businesses, bought our houses, or send his grandchildren to school. While I'm on the subject of my father he said to me when I was running for President of the USA: "Always remember, it's the working man who is keeping this country where it is. Not the guy who has two billion dollars and is telling everyone what to do. Have a little patience and the working man will take care of himself and you." Read more from my father in my book Raising Eyebrows, A Failed Entrepreneur Finally Gets It Right.

Yeah Unions!

 

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06:10 AM on 03/08/2011
It is my pleasure to read your blog which very good. For my comment I can't blame the public but it is sometime depend into the economic is. We need we know the country economic are improving or going down.
02:06 PM on 03/07/2011
Dal,

Read your Blog. In this modern day and time, people should not be coaxed to go to and to work for their living. Maybe, in the past, in our earlier years, but, not now. We must think in the present, and move on.

Colleges, higher education, online, and construction schools, all make it possible to function in a respectable and productive manner. It's up to people to find the right company to work for, or to go in business for themselves; hopefully, with good work ethics. People, from outside our country, are coming in and cashing in on our jobs- it's not the same anymore.

Read your book- lent it to a friend; she's a staunch Republican with an Independent mind.

Still would like for you to put me on the Ballot for President - Independent (Unenrolled). I know you can do it!

Take care,

Mary
06:54 PM on 03/06/2011
Public sector unions have far too much power, and too much sway in our political process. They have far, far, more power than any one corporation. Like most arguments liberals take the debate to rediculous ends that nobody is actually advocating. nobody wants to eliminate unions. We want public sector unions to have less power so that their pay and benefits are once again in line with the REAL middle class.
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
05:45 PM on 03/06/2011
Most of these people who are against unions BENEFITTED DIRECTLY from unions...Their parents could afford to help them thru college, their parents have decent pensions (so they are not moving in with the children) and they had decent affordable healthcare (so they did not have the foreclosure problem that this generation has......
03:01 PM on 03/06/2011
After reading the comments here I wonder why the public sector workers are not good enough to have fair pay? Why because one works for the government they should not be paid a good wage? Why should their pay be lower than non governemnt work?? Work is work.
If you don't get the kind of pay and recognition you think you are entitled to Organize ... form a Union(OMG) where you work and bargin. It is your right.
Don't cut down those who have unions. Get into your own. Make your own jobs better.
Most of the problems we have in the states and governments is because people who don't make good wages can't pay the taxes that they should and states governments are afraid to tax businesses. If the states stuck together...formed a UNION (OMG). They could keep the businesses from moving to states who lure them with less taxes.
01:47 PM on 03/06/2011
On May 11, 1894, workers of the Pullman Palace Car Company in Chicago struck to protest wage cuts and the firing of union representatives. They sought support from their union, the American Railway Union (ARU), led by Eugene V. Debs, and on June 26 the ARU called a boycott of all Pullman railway cars.
Within days, 50,000 rail workers complied and railroad traffic out of Chicago came to a halt. When the railroad owners asked the Federal government to intervene, Attorney General Richard Olney, a director of the Burlington and Santa Fe railroads, (no conflict of interest here; comment mine) obtained (July 2) a court injunction. On July 4, President Cleveland dispatched troops to Chicago.

Debs and three other union officials were jailed for disobeying the injunction.

The nation's newspapers, were objective as always. Chicago Tribune headlines from June 31,1894 described the events of the Pullman Strike thusly:

"Debs Strikers Begin Work Of Destruction, Guns Awe Them Not, Drunken Stockyard Rioters Defy Uncle Sam's Troops, Mobs Invite Death"

The New York Times, never one to side with business rather than labor, in an 1894 editorial called Eugene Debs

"A lawbreaker & an enemy to the human race."

The Pullman Railroad Strike, largest industrial strike to date in U.S. history, eventually broken by federal government troops, resulted in at least 24 strikers killed, & President Grover Cleveland suspended the constitutional right to assembly (the ability of any two or more people to meet in public) in seven states.
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02:51 PM on 03/06/2011
May 11, 1894? Almost 117 years ago...I find that union sympathizers keep calling on examples that are bumping 100 years old. Is that all you got? I concede the need for unions up until about 1940. Today there are so many built in federal protections, and safeguards, that the relevancy of unions is nil. They mainly exist to see how much money, and other benefits, they can legally extort from the employers... and all of this talk about unionism being a "right". I don't think so..especially in the public sector where collective bargaining is a "privilege" granted by the state or city. A privilege that they have the "right" to take away.
01:28 PM on 03/06/2011
11. Robber Barons And Rebels

* 1880s
* 1890s
* class struggle

In the year 1877, the signals were given for the rest of the century: the blacks would be put back; the strikes of white workers would not be tolerated; the industrial and political elites of North and South would take hold of the country and organize the greatest march of economic growth in human history. They would do it with the aid of, and at the expense of, black labor, white labor, Chinese labor, European immigrant labor, female labor, rewarding them differently by race, sex, national origin, and social class, in such a way as to create separate levels of oppression-a skillful terracing to stabilize the pyramid of wealth.
While some multimillionaires started in poverty, most did not. A study of the origins of 303 textile, railroad, and steel executives of the 1870s showed that 90 percent came from middle- or upper-class families. The Horatio Alger stories of "rags to riches" were true for a few men, but mostly a myth, and a useful myth for control.
Most of the fortune building was done legally, with the collaboration of the government and the courts. Sometimes the collaboration had to be paid for. Thomas Edison promised New Jersey politicians $1,000 each in return for favorable legislation. Daniel Drew and Jay Gould spent $1 million to bribe the New York legislature to legalize their issue of $8 million in "watered stock" on the Erie Railroad.
How we got here.
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11:04 PM on 03/06/2011
You are living in the past.....yes, things were bad in the late 1800's and early 1900's...that was over 100 years ago....GET OVER IT. Your pitiful attempts at justifying the "legalized extortion" that collective bargaining has become, especially in the public sector, are falling on deaf ears. Start living in the 21st century Steelwheels..and by the way, I have negotiated more union contracts, than you have fingers and toes.
01:08 AM on 03/07/2011
That's the first thing we've been able to agree on, 'things were bad in the late 1800's and early 1900's'. Also what goes around comes around. I cannot believe that when two sides sit at the table you could possibly think that somehow, as Mr 'so be it' Boehner states the unions with their CBA held a machine g@n to their head and forced them to acquiesce. They AGREED to these contracts and now with the cost of living growing by the day, their not negotiating, their DEMANDING through fiat legislation no less, for workers to just suck it up and take what you get and your lucky to get that. Sounds to me as though things aren't so great in your 21st century for the working stiff.
BTW, it's funny you should bring up your experience as a negotiator as I queried about that in a rebuttal post that has somehow been held up in limbo, but yours got through.
If you don't mind my asking, with whom were you negotiating?
And since we're going there, was it money, fame or both; that turned you to the dark side? Just curious.
01:20 PM on 03/06/2011
That year there came a series of tumultuous strikes by railway workers in a dozen cities; they shook the nation as no labour conflict in its history had done.

It began with wage cuts on railway after railway, in tense situations of already low wages ($ 1.75 a day for brakemen working twelve hours), scheming and profiteering by the rail companies, deaths and injuries among the workers—loss of hands, feet, fingers, the crushing of men between cars.
Six hundred freight trains now jammed the yards at Martinsburg. Saying the state militia was insufficient. In fact, the militia was not totally reliable, being composed of many railway workers. Congress had not appropriated money for the army yet, (h)ut J. P. Morgan, August Belmont, and other bankers now offered to lend money to pay army officers (but no enlisted men). Federal troops arrived in Martins(h)urg, and the freight cars began to move.
Strikes were occurring almost every hour. The great State of Pennsylvania was in an uproar; New Jersey was afflicted by a paralysing dread; New York was mustering an army of militia; Ohio was shaken from Lake Erie to the Ohio River; Indiana rested in a dreadful suspense. Illinois, and especially its great metropolis, Chicago, apparently hung on the verge of a vortex of confusion and tumult. St. Louis had already felt the effect of the premonitory shocks of the uprising.
libcom.org/history/articles/us-rail-strikes-1877
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10:52 PM on 03/06/2011
More ancient history...lets talk about today...stop living in the past...all of the inequities you people keep bringing up cannot happen today....get over it....this is the 21st century...not 1920
10:54 PM on 03/07/2011
I only bring up, as you call it 'ancient history', 90 years, really, because those who don't learn from history repeat it at their peril. Those labor disputes were over a 10% pay cut, then another 10% within 6mo (we're talking about $.20 also the rents they paid to the railroad remained unchanged) but more importantly the fact that after going to the labor board the Carriers would simply disregard it's decision and do as they pleased because rules are for the working man and not the hand with the whip.
The point with those stories was to correlate just our 21st century is becoming their 1920's. We've got a guy with a vegetable cart, who I'm sure didn't wake up that morning thinking to himself, "I'm gonna change the World today"
They on the other hand had a trainman who when told after suffering back to back 10% pay cuts they would be taking out a train double in size with no additional crewman, he said, "I'm just not going to do it".
"The strike," an anonymous Baltimore merchant wrote, "is not a revolution of fanatics willing to fight for an idea. It is a revolt of working men against low prices of labor, which have not been accomplished with corresponding low prices of food, clothing and house rent".
Sounds as relevant today as it did back then.
12:49 PM on 03/06/2011
So, the point is that unions are good because they ensure that consumers have to continue paying for costs of obsolete production and distribution practices long after these practices are displaced by efficiency?

Or maybe it was that unions are good because they allowed your father to get paid for doing nothing?

So we should all stand behind government employee unions and their "right" to collective bargaining in order to guarantee that their employers (the taxpayers) don't get rich by saving money through efficiency, and to protect these workers from worrying that they might have to actually do work in order to be compensated.

Please don't run for public office again, Mr. LaMagna.
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10:29 PM on 03/06/2011
Actually the only comment of yours that I agree with is to not run for public office. What an exasperating and frustrating position to be - a member of the U.S. Congress.
12:26 AM on 03/07/2011
With all due respect, I feel that each characterization I made in the above comment was only the slightest stretch from the observations in your story.

With union membership in private industry under 9% in the U.S., the majority of American workers (myself included) find it hard to feel sympathetic for those who fervently demand they retain such luxuries as you have described. We instead have to rely on our own abilities to prove our worth to our employers each and every day.
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05:51 AM on 03/06/2011
I'd support unions too if I could sit on my butt for 40 hours a week and get paid for it.

"This was a great example about how the right of collective bargaining caused productivity gains to get shared by the workers and the employers."

1) Collective bargaining isn't a "right". It is a privilege the unions have extorted from employers by striking.

2) The union did not create, implement or fund the improvement in productivity. They again used extortion ("Led by Anthony Scotto the union organized bitter strikes...") to force the shippers to share those gains with union workers who contributed nothing to the productivity improvement. In fact, the union workers were the cause of the low productivity the containerization was designed to improve upon.
11:45 AM on 03/06/2011
"RIGHT" yeap, your right, workers shouldn't have rights.....cracks me up this whole right wing B.S. talking point, rights vs. priviledge, corporations and wall street shouldn't have caps on profits, they also shouldn't have to pay taxes, but the middle class should be grateful for the crumbs.....
05:00 PM on 03/06/2011
Of course workers should have rights, but so should employers. They should not have to pay employees who are playing cards and going home.
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08:13 AM on 03/05/2011
An excellent article from CNN about Union History.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/03/04/unions.history/index.html?hpt=Sbin#
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05:07 AM on 03/05/2011
One thing these jealous door mats do not know, at least particularly from a woman oint of view, is that unions provided one of the best working environments anywhere. The seniority system ensures that you do not have to endure attacks from others that try to endear themselves to those in charge so they can by-pass others in getting better hours, days off, preferential treatment or higher wages based on purely personal opinions. A union job is not devoid of goals. In fact, it creates an atmosphere in which everyone works towards common goals and take great pride in making a business successful.
At Eastern Air Lines, before it was destroyed by the infamous President L0renz0, was a profitable company. The last contract negotiated by the IAM, brought company stock and wages commiserate with meeting goals for not just the union members, but also the noncontract members. An audit of the books, also written in the contract, found brazen irregularities. The management closed the books during the audit because the contract failed to denote how long the books could be examined. During the lead up to the strike, baggage handlers were timed with stopwatches to intimidate as they loaded bags critical to the safety of weights and balances of the aircraft. Aircraft that took hard landings were kept in service. Profit was everything. The union reported the wrongs to the FAA. It was about dignity and safety as much as anything else.
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05:25 AM on 03/05/2011
I forgot to mention, as the strike neared, there was EVIDENCE presented to members of congress of the transfer of assets, selling assets at a fraction of their worth (i.e.the state of the art computer reservation system of Eastern's) and then leased back to Eastern at a greatly inflated price, safety rules of the FAA not being followed, etc which resulted in a bill for a Blue Ribbon Commission panel to be created to investigate Eastern and the management. It passed the House, it passed the Senate and it arrived on President GHW Bush's desk where he denied justice by veto of the bill. The strike was a bitter one, even though it was honored by the Transportation Workers Union flight attendants, the Air Line Pilots Association pilots and the International Association of Machinists mechanics, fuelers, aircraft servicers and others in the unions. It was a strike about what was legal and right. Another carrier based in Atlanta, though it reaped a windfall from Easterns absence, declined to hire very experienced and well trained employees that were non-contract and former union members. I hope someday that will see the light of day.
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04:47 AM on 03/05/2011
Americans think the stalwart of being American is seeing just how far you can drive your health into the ground and have a barely tolerable life but in the end brag about how hard you worked to enrich someone else. The puritan ethics from prior to the industrial revolution, have a myopic limit on our standard of living. A standard of living is not gaged by how pricey of a car you drive, how many square feet you have under your roof, how many $400 pocketbooks you can acquire, how emblematic you child is to prove how smart his parents are or how many cruises you can fly to frantically only to find you need a vacation from your vacation. Americans have thrown away a golden time when they could have had a more balanced lifestyle. The healthcare enjoyed by other industrialized countries exceeds ours, in part because people confuse what the wealthiest get here with what they could have had if they could afford it. We don't get anywhere near as much vacation time as many European countries. We don't have a nice maternity leave that is mandatory as in France. We eat the sickening foods that are required with a driven lifestyle that limits your meal to a drive-thru. Unions afforded a tiny bit better life for its members, but the non-represented employees are mad they didn't get it so they must saw the legs from under the chair. We keep ourselves down.
01:30 AM on 03/05/2011
The big issue in Wisconsin today is whether or not public sector workers should have collective bargaining rights. In an Aug. 16, 1937 letter to Luther Steward, the president of the National Federation of Public Employees, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt had something to say about that:
[M]eticulous attention should be paid to the special relationships and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the Government.
All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters.
Vyslichajici
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08:50 AM on 03/05/2011
that is simply not true. collective bargaining by public sector workers with their management is helpful for everyone for the very same reasons it is helpful in the private sector. your claim that it is government versus government at the table is incorrct. it is political appointees versus salaried public sector workers. it is elitist puppets versus wage-supported individuals who actually do the work. the reasons for public sector collective bargaining are to ensure best standards and practices and to advocate for the most effective decisions regarding the job mission. workers know their work. management does not. management worries about cost and politics, workers worry about effectiveness and how to accomplish excellence given available resources. you are wrong.
08:32 PM on 03/05/2011
Sorry Vysl. There is no one looking out for the taxpayer hen public sector unions have collective bargaining. Unions pay off the politicians who reward them with cushy deals, all paid for by the poor taxpayer. Both FDR and George Meany recognized that public sector employment is fundamentally incompatible with collective bargaining.
11:46 AM on 03/06/2011
Part of the reason unions were created in the first place was to share in the profits made off the backs of the workers. Back when people worked the same job for years and years and never saw more money for their efforts, unions made sense, and even today in the private sector they make some sense. But in the public sector there are no profits to be made.
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01:00 PM on 03/05/2011
You quote only part of the letter. Quote the other half which shows that FDR supported collective bargaining in the public sector. Anyone can cherry-pick quotations.
08:29 PM on 03/05/2011
INCORRECT. FDR supported PRIVATE SECTOR unions, while recognizing the impossibility of public sector unions.