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About Ghosts

Posted: 10/20/09 03:37 PM ET

People are coming up to me lately to say how much they enjoy playing the new Atari Ghostbusters video game and expressing hope that a third movie might be made.

Sometimes they ask me, an entertainer, if I think ghosts really could exist. Are ghosts real? And if so what are they made of?

Doctor Hans Holzer, probably the world's most credible and respected ghostbuster, writes in his Travel Guide to Haunted Houses (Black Dog and Leventhal Publishers): "A ghost appears to be a surviving emotional memory of someone who died traumatically... but is unaware of his or her death."

Wait! So ghosts are just our memories of those who have lived before?

"Sudden death comes as a shock... and human personalities stay on the spot where emotional attachment existed prior to their physical deaths.", says Holzer. He posits that ghosts are electromagnetic fields encased in the physical body. At death the outer layer dissolves leaving this energy free to move forward and back in space and time interacting with the other waves which comprise our plane of existence.

Have I personally ever seen a ghost? Not one. Have I ever felt an unseen presence near me? Damn right. In my bed no less when we lived in Mama Cass's Hollywood estate.

Hard-line skeptics such as my writing partner on Ghostbusters, Harold Ramis, believe that the invisible world can not reasonably encompass these lingering presences, their occasional appearances to us and their subsequent actions. However it is reported that General George Patton who fervently believed that he was a Roman Legionary in a previous life, appeared to one of his sisters in New York at the exact moment he died in an American military hospital in Germany. She described him as sitting casually inside her apartment window sill in full uniform. His other sister said that the General telephoned her in Boston as well to say good-bye at the time of his passing.

Surely genuine is humankind's fascination with the subject. Books, movies, documentaries, TV dramas and comedies interpreting these matters have proliferated since the first ghost stories were told.

The most believable contemporary account to me is the Ghost of Flight 401. There are several books on Eastern Airlines Lockheed L-10-11 flight engineer Donald Repo and his haunting of the salvaged galley elevator from the Florida plane crash which killed him and most others aboard 401.

At the turn of the century there was an inquisitive frenzy on the possibilities for survival of the spirit in an after life.

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sir Oliver Lodge, Dr. Schrenk-Notzing, Charles Richet (who coined the word ectoplasm) plus numerous other investigators worldwide spent extensive time and money analyzing the exploits of many channellers and mediums.

These were individuals such as Daniel Dunglas Hume, a professional psychic whom witnesses said could levitate and elongate his body and limbs several feet like Plasticman. Eusapio Paladino, a simple adolescent girl was seen to disgorge real ectoplasm.

My father Peter points out in his new book A History of Ghosts (Rodale Press) that although Hume, Paladino and others were certified often for genuine phenomena they were also all caught in cheating the investigators from time to time.

As Pop Aykroyd and I hit the road soon to get the word out on his book, a definitive and exciting analysis of spiritualism as a movement, discipline and indeed a quasi-religion, the question of ghosts and the possibility of their existence will no doubt be brought up repeatedly. Believers and skeptics alike will be in on the debate and in my view it is a most worthwhile and moreover thoroughly entertaining one.

 
People are coming up to me lately to say how much they enjoy playing the new Atari Ghostbusters video game and expressing hope that a third movie might be made. Sometimes they ask me, an entertai...
People are coming up to me lately to say how much they enjoy playing the new Atari Ghostbusters video game and expressing hope that a third movie might be made. Sometimes they ask me, an entertai...
 
 
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06:52 AM on 01/12/2010
Holzer: A ghost appears to be a surviving emotional memory of someone who died traumatically... but is unaware of his or her death.

Aykroyd: Wait! So ghosts are just our memories of those who have lived before?

No, Danny. Said memories are from the GHOSTS, not you! Which is why over the years thousands of people have reported the paranormal activity of ghosts that they of course never knew in life.

You should already known that, after all your UFO/space alien research, which yields similar report patterns. After all, if everyone was visited by every alien - and ghost - that ever existed, then this planet would be flooded with millions of 'em on a daily basis! But of course that ain't the case.
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12:07 PM on 11/12/2009
Dan: So the ghost you felt in bed at Mama Cass' ex-estate. Are you saying the ghost of Mama Cass sat on you? And you survived?

Seriously, I applaud your courage to talk about this taboo -- most frightening to Americans, who've convinced themselves that death happens only to smokers.

I'm just now writing about spirits and what happens after we croak. One story: the green lights that flew off the wall, chasing a guy -- a mobster, I'd just learned-- from my apartment. I mostly know Friendly Ghosts: unseen hands that won't let me walk into the intersection, just when a van races through a red light, unseen hands that yank me back when I'm mid-fall, nose millimeters above sidewalk.

I too know about invisible bedmates: in Cadaques, a hauntingly beautiful Spanish hilltown made famous by surrealist Salvador Dali, while I worked on a book with the man who'd made Dali household name status, I felt someone in bed AND leaning over my shoulder -- reading as I wrote; pictures often moved. I discovered that in the village infamous for pirates and witches my charged cottage was built atop a graveyard; but I always thought it was Dali.

Thanks for piercing the veil that's cloaked ghosts -- and death, that upcoming state about which we've long preferred to stay in the dark. Let's shed more light!
12:36 AM on 10/26/2009
I believe there's more to this life because I've read Huxley, Hesse, Whitman. That's enough for me. Of course, many fine atheists, christians, and so forth have probably read the same books. and that's cool. But you'll rarely find me trying to push my views on others. When it comes to ghosts, I have no idea, but I find it interesting.
09:01 PM on 10/25/2009
didn't a ghost get mary pregnant

how much prove do you people need ?
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11:20 PM on 10/25/2009
Good point! That settles it. End of discussion folks ;)
08:44 PM on 10/25/2009
I know a lot of people aren't gonna like this, but...

Until some real evidence comes forward, I simply cannot subscribe to the claim that ghosts exist. The "evidence" that people so often claim for ghostly encounters (appliances turning on or off, things falling, supposedly unexplainable coincidences, etc.) can be explained though other possible - and more likely - causes. The important point is that as long as even one reasonable, non-supernatural explanation can be posited for a supposedly supernatural happening, there is no reason other than personal belief or emotional desperation to assume a supernatural causation.

Is it possible? Of course. It hasn't been DISproven, so it must remain in the realm of could-bes. But for me, no evidence, no belief.
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11:23 PM on 10/25/2009
Nicely stated ... and love your nick! Reason must must be our guiding light.
12:08 AM on 10/26/2009
But remember, just because there could be a logical explanation, doesn't mean there is a logical explanation, or that the possible explanation is correct. In the end, many of the 'it could have been this' may not have been at all, and it could have been a ghost all along!
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12:30 AM on 10/26/2009
This cannot be, Daffey! Haven't you ever watched Scooby-Doo before? You just have to pull the mask off the phantom to see who it was all along!
08:43 PM on 10/25/2009
In 1993, I was as skeptical as one could get. Oh, I liked a good ghost story as much as the next person, and I saw Ghostbusters a hundred times in 1984. But that was as far as my beliefs went, especially through college when I was a proud secularist. Ghosts were no different to me in my younger days than a person with religious beliefs! Then, in March of 1993 - history buff that I was - I strolled through a ruined fort from Colonial America. My wife was with me. The stone foundations of buildings were all that was left. We walked back and forth, zig-zag, from one plaque to another across what would have been the main thoroughfare of the village. Suddenly, a strange feeling hit me - a feeling like being pressed upon by a large, noisy crowd. I stopped and looked at my wife who looked at me and almost at the same moment, we asked each other if we felt that. We went on. Nothing happened. Then we traced our path the same way again and felt the same, almost stifling feeling. After that, nothing. It’s never happened since. I’ve gone everywhere, including there, and nothing. But after almost 17 years of trying to explain it, I have nothing to say except I can’t explain it. And that has opened me up to the possibility that there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in our philosophies, or our science
06:38 PM on 10/25/2009
In reading all of the experiences that people have had with "ghosts" it makes me wonder why more people haven't experienced it. My husband died unexpectedly a year ago. At the time he was the skeptic, and I believed that "something" survived the physical body. I've caught a few glimpses, but nothing very conclusive. We weren't just married - we were truly and deeply in love. One morning I woke up to find he had passed away...no messages, no visits or anything. And I desperately want to believe that someone is still waiting for me. So, now I've just refiled this whole subject in the "I don't know" section, which is quite large. But I do find myself wondering why some people experience this, when others who are open to it (but not already believers) don't have any such reassurance.
06:56 PM on 10/25/2009
I am sorry about the loss of your husband. I have lost more than one person that I loved more than I will ever be able to express, and I (like you) keep waiting for something that let me know our relationship was more than what we could see, and that it carries on in some form. Like you, I feel desperate for it, but (also like you) I have not seen or felt anything conclusive. And as more time passes from the time of their death, the less I believe I will ever see anything.

It is a cynical view, to be sure, but I think if the afterlife and ghosts exist whatever evidence of them will appear regardless of the audience--and that it must be that way. Notwithstanding some very reasonable conclusions on a quantum level, I still think that reality exists apart from our perception of it, and that our loved ones would appear to us post-mortem whether we thought it was possible or not.
09:33 PM on 10/25/2009
After my husband died in 1999. I found out that 3 different people felt him pass. A friend woke from a nap with a terrible pain in her midsection & thought "I wonder how Johnny is?" for no apparent reason. A nephew of his felt something cold pass right through his body when he was sitting in a parked car with the windows rolled up. My own great-uncle sat down & burst into tears-when my great-aunt asked him what was wrong he said "Someone just died."
I prayed for a sign. There were several manifestations in our house after his death-objects falling off shelves or flying across the room & several people felt someone touching them when there was no one else there. But I experienced nothing.
The signs seemed centered around our 16-yr-old daughter who was devastated by his death, & around her friends. She was daddy's favorite girl & I think he knew that I would be okay but was concerned about her. He seemed to want to show her that he was still there for her & thinking of her & to give her some comfort in her grief.
I wish I had an answer for you, ntellya. I never got my own sign but enough other people did to help me keep my own faith that this man will be waiting for me when I die.
Don't give up your belief that "something" survives, ntellya. If nothing else, your love does. Bless you dear.
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06:26 PM on 10/25/2009
Those who have experienced the phenomena believe. Those who haven't, don't and there's not much you can say to convince them.
05:29 PM on 10/25/2009
Whenever people are willing to substitute subjective feelings (like feeling a presence,) and their interpretations of them, for any kind of evidence, they can convince themselves to believe anything they want. In the 1970's there were strange lights and sounds over Ireland. Thousands of people from around the world gathered to observe. All the Christians were "absolutely certain" that they saw the virgin Mary, or Jesus, or a giant cross. UFOlogists (is there such a thing?) were "absolutely certain" that they saw evidence of alien ships. Every person's vision subjected itself to that person's previously held beliefs. People should realize that they are not passive observers of phenomena, but active interpreters and projectors. The mind even acts as a filter, allowing one to accept only that which corresponds to one's belief system. If we step back and objectively evaluate our experiences, it's much harder to jump to conclusions. "I felt something," or "I felt a warm sensation," are much more honest than "I felt my dead grandmother." How did you come to the conclusion that what you felt was your dead grandmother? What does the ghost of your dead grandmother feel like? The conclusion in this case is an interpretation of an experience, not the experience itself.
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04:38 PM on 10/25/2009
I know ghosts are real. After my partner died in July of 2008 there were a series of odd happenings that haven't repeated since then. A fan that we lost the remote for suddenly turned itself off - twice. A brand new flat screen TV turned itself off in the middle of a program for no reason. And a printer test page printed with our initials "P&K" in a line across the page. He always referred to us as "P&K."

I believe. And it gives me comfort to know that we go on after death. While death is still life's greatest mystery, at least it doesn't scare me as much now.
07:13 PM on 10/25/2009
Kevin,

I am sorry to hear of your partner's passing. I don't know that the phenomena you describe cannot be explained fairly easily--but I understand your desire to know that your partner and your relationship with him survives, and I find your increased comfort with death reassuring. I lost a close friend five years ago, and until that time death absolutely terrified me. Yet as awful as it was to bury someone so close, my fear of death subsided a great deal knowing that he was able to make the journey at such a young age (we were both 29). It doesn't scare me as much now either.
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04:26 PM on 10/25/2009
"A ghost appears to be a surviving emotional memory of someone"

Yes, but the memory is NOT in the place, but rather in the head of the person who sees the ghost.
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03:22 PM on 10/25/2009
If ghosts have no physical presences then how can we possible claim they exist? And if they do have a physical presence then why isn't there any physical evidence for it (provide links to published studies if you claim otherwise)?
04:10 PM on 10/25/2009
Couldn't we make the same argument for the mind? Does it really exist if its not physical?
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Marlyn
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04:30 PM on 10/25/2009
The mind is physical. The mind is the state of the brain.

An analogy with a computer is:
the brain is the hardware, and
the mind is the software, and
both are physical.
04:28 PM on 10/25/2009
Change "ghost" to "God" or "soul" and ask why our world is so willing to die over one non-physical apparition and willing to scoff at anyone who believes in the other as being a kook. Or even vice versa.
01:55 PM on 10/25/2009
Very odd coincidences in the Huffington Post blog that seemed germane to the purpose and sights of my LONG Mediterranean holiday.

Today I visited Casa Battlo in Barcelona (by Gaudi) at noon after a spectacular, unusual sunrise over the sea. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cambridge2000.com/gallery/images/PC1313006.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.cambridge2000.com/gallery/html/PC1313006.html&usg=__cKFv5u4OCLe0GgeE4lWb6FlG8R0=&h=600&w=800&sz=105&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=ojof1Yot_snICM:&tbnh=107&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbarcelona%2Barchitecture%2Bgaudi%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

I ditched the audio aid within 10 minutes--no need to be told what I was seeing.

Besides the incredible 5-floor skylit central atrium illumited at high noon--it IS the sea on a partly cloudy fall morning (just like today), I left with the overwhelming feeling that it was ALIVE. Gaudi died tragically--hit by street car--with this his residential masterpiece.

The final room of the tour was on the top floor. Plain white undulating walls and ceiling with dare I say ghostly illumination from small, oddly shaped windows that appeared and disappeared depending on your perspective. I knew this was a VERY special room even though very plain and likely used for storage. My partner who used the audio tour told me that this was Gaudi's favorite room in the house--what he would have used for his study/modeling workshop. As a renovation I suspect this might have been the first room finished--where he did study and model.

Perhaps ghosts do exist...
02:04 PM on 10/25/2009
Link too complex. Try:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casa_Batll%C3%B3

Does anyone else see the chimneys as two hands placed together with thumbs folded inward? Hands at prayer?
01:49 PM on 10/25/2009
Europe has more ghosts, probably because their buildings are much older. Persistence of memory, spiritual energy, manifestation of a transcendental moment out of time -- call it what you will, sometimes it will not be denied.

My favorite pet theory is a ghost is energy created in panic at the moment of death. It allows the dying to have a bit of closure.
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01:30 PM on 10/25/2009
Dan you're a gifted actor and writer. I love Ghostbusters! But as far as convincing people that ghosts actually exist well I have two wrods: Physical evidence

And personal stories don't count as physical evidence.
02:51 PM on 10/25/2009
I tend to agree: Show me the physical evidence.

Except: How do you find physical evidence of something that is not physical?

A thought can be considered physical if you really stretch the meaning as at least electrically it did exist for an instant and electrons are physical objects.

I say only for purpose of discussion: What if "ghosts" are collections of photons--things that act like things but cannot exist physically--images; reflections--non physical from without that evoke physical within?
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03:22 PM on 10/25/2009
If ghosts have no physical presences then how can we possible claim they exist? And if they do have a physical presence then why isn't there any physical evidence for it (provide links to published studies if you claim otherwise)?
03:53 PM on 10/25/2009
Thank you, Mike, for stating that fact. They lack substance so to provide physical evidence would prove difficult. They act independently so you have no control over them for experiments to gain evidence. Only under unusual conditions do they manifest for long periods. When they do manifest you are overwhelmed by the experience and fearful of what may happen. You see it, you hear it but your mind races trying to rationalize it in a logical format. I would love to have realistic answers to the phenomenon.
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04:17 PM on 10/25/2009
Spirit is not physical. It's ethereal. So -- no physical evidence.
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Marlyn
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04:36 PM on 10/25/2009
Spirit is attitude.