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Smoking Causes Cancer; Carbon Pollution Causes Extreme Weather

Posted: 07/16/2012 4:46 pm

Smoking causes cancer. Carbon pollution causes extreme weather.

It really doesn’t have to be more complicated than that.

We dump billions of tons of carbon pollution into the atmosphere each year. As a result, the concentration of carbon dioxide has increased by 40 percent. Excess carbon dioxide traps excess heat in the atmosphere. Excess heat causes extreme heat waves, droughts and storms.

And that’s what we have been seeing. In June alone, 170 all-time high temperature records were broken or tied in the United States, and more than 24,000 daily high temperature records have been broke so far this year. If the climate weren’t changing, we would expect to see about the same number of record highs and record lows set each year due to random fluctuations. That’s what we were seeing 50 years ago, but during the last decade there were twice as many record highs as record lows. So far this year the ratio has been 10 to 1.

This year’s extreme weather follows last year’s. The last 12 months were the hottest on record for the United States. Texas saw its hottest and driest summer on record in 2011 by a wide margin, and research published this week shows that carbon pollution dramatically increased the probability of such extreme heat and drought.

Faced with similar information about the carcinogens in cigarette smoke, the mechanism by which these carcinogens cause genetic mutations, and the statistical relationship between smoking and cancer, the Surgeon General says that smoking causes cancer. Of course that doesn’t mean that every individual case of cancer experienced by a smoker can be definitively attributed to smoking. But the Surgeon General does not feel compelled to say that every time she says that smoking causes cancer. And journalists don’t feel compelled to include that caveat every time they write an article about the health toll of smoking.

The Surgeon General’s warning hasn’t always been this clear. In 1966, when cigarette packages were first required to carry a warning, the package said “Cigarette Smoking May be Hazardous to Your Health.” A few years ago a similarly tepid warning may have been appropriate for carbon pollution. Not anymore.

The data are in. It’s time for scientists and journalists to just say it: Carbon pollution causes extreme weather.

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This post was first published on NRDC's Switchboard blog.

 
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12:16 AM on 07/18/2012
Your points are well taken. In fact it is time for the Surgeon General to declare carbon pollution causes extreme weather.
Joyce Lashof,MD
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GEOENGINEERINGWATCH DOT ORG
03:21 PM on 07/17/2012
One of the causes of extreme weather is polar ice mixing with the salted water causes extreme currents. Russia is salting the arctic water to reduce this effect (GEO-ENGINERING). We should be too.
01:28 PM on 07/20/2012
Oh right, figured out how much salt that would take? And we should of course learn from Russia, I mean, they are so advanced right? They haven't even figured that Asaad is doomed in Syria, yet they know how to geo-engineer the planet out of catastrophic climate change. Yep, sounds likely...
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cavemanjim
11:56 AM on 07/17/2012
Don't look now but North Dakota oil fields are currently "flaring" billions of cubic feet of natural gas into the atmosphere. A full 1/3rd of the U.S. natural gas flaring comes out of this state. Flaring means it is simply either burned, or allowed to vent into the atmosphere. Natural gas prices are so low that this is considered "overburden" to the oil that lies below. We could run our homes and cars off this wasted natural gas if we had the infrastructure to pipe it to market. $10 billion in stimulus could supply this infrastructure, and give tens of thousands of Americans work.
01:29 PM on 07/20/2012
The UK is piping the North Sea gas field ashore for precisely that reason. America is still burning LPG on rigs? How backward can you get?
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Dazed not Confused
A peaceful place, or so it looks from space
11:41 AM on 07/17/2012
I'm with you Dan, but I suggest you replace 'Carbon' and 'Co2' with 'greenhouse gasses.' In particular, methane, which according to some experts is equally to blame for climate change, and, like Co2, its dramatic rise in concentration over the past 100 years is mainly due to human activity. Methane levels are at record highs due to the increase in global meat consumption coupled with the advent of industrial, large-scale livestock & poultry production.
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Roosevelt Democrat
09:37 AM on 07/17/2012
The NRDC is the Henny Penny of climate change. Only the sky is only falling here! They are the ultimate NIMBY environmentalist.

http://discovermagazine.com/2011/apr/18-made-in-china-our-toxic-imported-air-pollution/

They have not learned that, "There is no place called away!" it's a quote from the article.

We could cut our coal usage in the U.S. to zero and have these gains wiped out in less than 5 years!

http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=4390

Watch the change in the EIA animation.
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08:50 AM on 07/17/2012
Yes co2 causes change. This is why we need to be building more nuclear power plants as there is no other source of energy that will produce that much power while producing absolutly no co2 emissions. By switching to nuclear, the co2 output of the us will be reduced 50%.
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cavemanjim
11:58 AM on 07/17/2012
Nuclear Power is not "clean". It requires mining of uranium, processing of uranium ore, and shipping it to market. It then requires waste uranium disposal. There is no free lunch here.
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12:10 PM on 07/17/2012
Solar panels are not green either as they require toxic chemicals, mining raw material, factories, trucking, power, and so on.  Same for wind turbines.
01:36 PM on 07/20/2012
Excuse me? You're totally wrong. There are plenty of zero carbon energy generation methods; wind, solar, heat exchange, natural gas, tidal power, riverine power... all zero. Nuclear uses fossil fuel, uranium, a finite material which will run out unlike all the zero carbon methods, it also takes huge amounts of carbon to mine [big machinery carbing out rock], then more to transport to ports, then more to ship round the planet, more to refine it, then more to get it to nuclear power plants, and finally more to dispose of it, although the exact method of that disposal has so far eluded the brains who think nuclear is the answer. I didn't mention that most nuclear plants are situated on the coast as they need huge amounts of sea water for cooling [more heat going into the oceans] and with sea level rise these are going to face increasing likelihood of flooding. Any more bright ideas?
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05:13 PM on 07/20/2012
How do you think they get the raw materials for solar cells or wind mills?  Grow them?  Everything pollutes to some point, however nuclear is the only source of 24/7/356 energy avaiable. Nuclear is safe.  It's proven science.  Don't be a skeptic and someone that can;t accept science.
06:42 AM on 07/17/2012
"Smoking causes cancer. Carbon pollution causes extreme weather."

This comparison can not be made so easily. Smoking, breathing in smoke, is not the natural way for people to breath.
However, CO2 in the air is part of the circle of life. We breath in O2 and breath out CO2, plants use the CO2 in the air to grow and 'breath out' O2.

So, while it's obvious that breathing in smoke (something that makes you cough) is bad for you, it is not that obvious that putting more of a substance in the air that's naturally already there is bad for the earth's climate.
If climate scientists say the current warming must be caused by CO2, since we can not find any other reason for the current warming, than that's quite a weak way of reasoning. Of course, there's more behind the idea that CO2 is the cause, but it all seems a bit too much focussed on one possible cause.
The climate is such a complex system influenced by what happens on earth as well as inside the earth and in space around us. However great scientists we have, I think it's likely that the real cause of the current warming has not been found yet.
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chrisd3
Excelsior!
08:51 AM on 07/17/2012
[CO2 in the air is part of the circle of life.]

There's nothing in the least natural about the amount of carbon we're adding to the atmosphere. We're taking carbon that was accumulated over millions of years and releasing it in a century or two. It is overwhelming the planet's ability to deal with the stuff. That's not natural.

[If climate scientists say the current warming must be caused by CO2, since we can not find any other reason for the current warming, than that's quite a weak way of reasoning.]

It would be, if that were actually the reasoning. But it isn't. CO2-based warming was PREDICTED by physics long before the warming was actually observed. Subsequent observations supported the hypothesis. It was positive reasoning, not negative as you claim.

[it all seems a bit too much focussed on one possible cause]

There's plenty of research on other possible causes. They've been dismissed because the empirical evidence doesn't support them. The empirical evidence DOES support CO2-based warming in virtually every respect. This is precisely how science is supposed to work.
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jimboy71
Hen Diapheron Heautoi
08:55 AM on 07/17/2012
Since when are your lungs the climate?

Here is the analogy (which I am not surprised you missed, because you guys NEVER get analogies).

Smoking is to your lungs and cancer as CO2 is to the planet's climate and AGW. Not, as you have put it, smoking is to your lungs and cancer as CO2 is to your lungs and breathing.

That is absurd. And pointless. From there, you construct a lovely straw man. I am here to tell you it got blown over.

So rather than blather about "real causes", why not propose what novel mechanism YOU think is to blame that SOMEHOW over a century of research has missed. You don't understand the research that has been done, so you're not asking the right questions.
11:39 AM on 07/17/2012
"Smoking is to your lungs and cancer as CO2 is to the planet's climate and AGW. Not, as you have put it, smoking is to your lungs and cancer as CO2 is to your lungs and breathing."

Sure, the way you describe it the comparison can be made.
However, I wonder if you understand what I try to point out. And that is, smoking is NOT a natural thing to the breathing of human beings. However, CO2 in the air IS a natural thing (and to the plants using it).

Anyways, it's not really important whether the analogy is right or wrong. Any comparison is flawed in a way, so that doesn't really matter.

"So rather than blather about "real causes", why not propose what novel mechanism YOU think is to blame that SOMEHOW over a century of research has missed."

Glad you asked. My theory is that the earth's climate is influenced a lot by processes within the earth. These processes emit heat from within the earth and sometimes they emit more heat and sometimes less.
The heat coming from the sun alone can not explain the current temperatures on earth. If it was the sun alone that heated the earth's atmosphere then it should be much colder. Therefore, heat must be coming from within the earth to create the current climate.

Anyways, it's not because I don't believe the CO2-hype that I should have the complete answer/explanation. Some things we can just explain (yet).
zinxeb
Empathy ends cruelty
11:48 PM on 07/16/2012
But just like a cigarette addict who can't quit, the warning is ignored.

The world is addicted to fossil fuels, and chooses to ignore the "warning on the pack", since quitting would be very uncomfortable for most people.

But just like the cancer diagnosis will produce hand-wringing regrets of "Why didn't I quit before this happened?" or "Why did I start smoking in the first place?" , people will be wringing their hands and crying "Why didn't we do something when we had the chance?", or "Why didn't we heed the warnings?"...but the damage will be done.

In this poor economy, with so many people out of work, we should have an environmental "New Deal", with a huge push to develop and implement alternative energies...a win/win for both the environment and the economy. It's now or never!
08:32 PM on 07/16/2012
When it is 90 °F and you are 300 miles from the Arctic Ocean: is it time to think that this is a little abnormal? That temperature is 10 degrees above the previous high and about 25 degrees above normal. Or it is 90 °F and you can see the Hudson Bay: is it time to think that this is a little abnormal?
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
04:52 AM on 07/17/2012
Odd can happen, but you're right - a huge hike in the record is too odd to be `summer'.
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jimboy71
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08:57 AM on 07/17/2012
It is fairly regular for parts of the NWT to get into the high 20's and even the 30's as of late. However, this year, much of the North experienced these temperatures in SPRING (never before) and over a much wider area. The trend continues. It is alarming, to say the least.
08:33 PM on 07/17/2012
I should make clear to American readers that jimboy is speaking in Celsius.

20 C = 68 F
30 C = 86 F
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07:48 PM on 07/16/2012
Carbon pollution has given Mother Nature cancer.
06:17 PM on 07/16/2012
What are they saying if have notice that people notice climate change and smoking causes caner. Why don't they understand that smoking causes your body to stop the regular electoral impulse that is regularly there. CO2 in the air does the something.
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hardycross
05:27 PM on 07/16/2012
Name one study that links CO2 to global warming. The key word is "global."

And recent peer reviewed studies confirm it was much warmer in the past, for example, the MWP, before CO2 was demonized.
06:15 PM on 07/16/2012
I didn't feel like looking too hard, so I found one that is in regards to methane and warming. (Methane is another important greenhouse gas, working similarly to CO2, and methane tends to break down into CO2 in the atmosphere anyways relatively quickly)
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v484/n7392/full/nature10929.html
"Past extreme warming events linked to massive carbon release from thawing permafrost"
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hardycross
08:01 PM on 07/16/2012
Ice cores show temp rising and THEN temps rise. Even Al Gore's movie shows that.
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chrisd3
Excelsior!
08:59 PM on 07/16/2012
[And recent peer reviewed studies confirm it was much warmer in the past, for example, the MWP, before CO2 was demonized]

That is NOT what the Esper paper said. It's what a British tabloid said. The tab was wrong.
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hardycross
10:35 PM on 07/16/2012
Graphs in Esper show 2000 years of cooling and much warmer periods than today. CO2 theory is dead.
05:27 PM on 07/16/2012
And, interestingly, the bogus "30,000 scientists" list is quite similar to a similar list, put out by the SAME PEOPLE, in the smoking debate!
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
04:58 AM on 07/17/2012
Scientists, and especially engineers who work in middle-management at arms companies, can be really dumb.
09:13 AM on 07/17/2012
I talked to a PhD physics candidate once who actually believed that homeopathy works, despite the fact that it is physically impossible.

She still got her PhD.

Orly Taitz got through dental school, too.
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jimboy71
Hen Diapheron Heautoi
09:07 AM on 07/17/2012
TASSC, by any other name.