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Posted: 01/24/11 12:23 PM ET

So we've had the big visit with Chinese leaders and the triumphant tour in Schenectady with the newly-appointed job creation czar -- General Electric's CEO Jeffrey R. Immelt. But with all the talk of trade deals and jobs last week, what's gotten scant notice is the fact that increasing U.S. trade with emerging economic powers is not only creating, but also costing American jobs.

An investigation of recent trade dealings with India by Dan Rather Reports found little evidence to support the prevailing wisdom among Washington policy makers that helping U.S. business giants drum up new customers necessarily translates into new jobs for American workers at home -- at least in the short-to-medium term.

Like China, India has been dominating the attention of America's multinationals, and many are building operations in South Asia that are nothing short of stunning. And with companies refocusing on India, good jobs once held by Americans are disappearing by the tens of thousands.

Industry estimates indicate that the U.S. lost more than 250,000 information technology jobs over the past two years. Meanwhile, the hi-tech outsourcing industry in India -- where the typical starting salary for an IT worker is less than $9,000 a year -- hired more than 850,000 people.

Bangalore, which is often called the Silicon Valley of India, is the center of the country's exploding hi-tech outsourcing industry. Driving around the sprawling city today, you see all sorts of familiar logos -- from General Motors to General Electric, Microsoft to Hewlett Packard.

Over the past three years, American companies operating in India have increased production seven-fold, according to a survey by India's IT Outsourcing industry association. The bulk of those operations, the survey found, involve research and development. We're not just creating overseas jobs at an astounding rate, we're off-shoring the innovation and the know-how that we need to lay the groundwork for the future of the American economy.

During our investigative team's work in India during November, President Obama arrived in Mumbai for his first state visit to the country. Just three days after the Democrats' historic midterm defeat, the president gave the keynote address at a summit co-hosted by a branch of the U.S Chamber of Commerce and allayed concerns among the business community that the U.S. would succumb to a protectionist panic.

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"Trade between our countries is not just a one-way street of American jobs and companies moving to India," the president said. "It is a dynamic, two-way relationship that is creating jobs, growth, and higher living standards in both our countries."

To prove the point, he announced with great fanfare that the White House had helped broker a host of trade deals, billions of dollars of contracts for American companies like General Electric and Boeing. President Obama said the deals with India would "lead to more than 50,000 jobs in the United States."

But when we asked Francisco J. Sanchez --the Undersecretary of Commerce for International Trade -- whether the trade agreements included any provisions requiring the American companies do the work in U.S, he said that was not how trade deals worked.

"No, there were no government requirement that they be in place," Sanchez said:

What I can tell you, though, is that those companies that sign those contracts have very substantial investments in factories, in people in the United States. And so in order to make good on the contracts that they've signed they just can't up and leave and fulfill those. So I'm pretty confident that the contracts that were signed will create American jobs.


That confidence, it seems, remains intact despite the fact that over the past decade, the U.S. has suffered from two jobless recoveries. And over that time, annual exports from India's hi-tech outsourcing business has exploded from nearly $6 billion to over $50 billion. And of course, that doesn't even count all the work American companies have off-shored to other low-wage countries -- including the big kahuna, China.

On Friday morning, when President Obama toured the GE facility in Schenectady -- where some of turbines for India are manufactured -- according to the Albany Times-Union, Immelt noted that the Capital Region of New York was the birthplace of GE and home to 7,000 employees. "I know that this team can compete with anyone," he said.

What wasn't mentioned is that 7,000 is a small percentage of the 40,000 workers that GE once had in the region. Or the fact that GE has 5,000 researchers and scientists in Bangalore and plans for new Indian manufacturing facilities in India that are slated to begin operations soon.

In 2000, GE's annual report indicated that the company had 131,000 employees in the U.S. and 92,000 across the rest of the world. By 2009, the company's U.S. headcount had increased only modestly to 134,000 while GE's foreign payroll had climbed 154,000 -- up by more than 45 percent.

When it comes to expanding trade and creating jobs, the argument from Washington, Wall Street and most economists remains, "have patience, wait and see, and you'll see that's it's all truly 'win-win.'" Maybe, but in the meantime working people across America have good reason to be skeptical.

Dan Rather Reports airs Tuesdays on HDNet at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET. This episode is also available on iTunes.

 
So we've had the big visit with Chinese leaders and the triumphant tour in Schenectady with the newly-appointed job creation czar -- General Electric's CEO Jeffrey R. Immelt. But with all the talk of ...
So we've had the big visit with Chinese leaders and the triumphant tour in Schenectady with the newly-appointed job creation czar -- General Electric's CEO Jeffrey R. Immelt. But with all the talk of ...
 
 
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08:08 PM on 03/08/2011
13 years and still waiting. How long are Americans supposed to wait? Their entire lives?
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08:34 PM on 02/14/2011
GE - Generally Evil? Obama made a horrible choice in picking Jeffrey R. Immelt. It just means even more outsourced jobs. Ultimately, when the last manufacturer packs up and leaves the United States, the knowledge necessary to restart American manufacturing will be lost forever. Greed has completely blinded American business...
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Debbie Niemeyer
02:14 PM on 02/05/2011
you would think something like this would be reported and repeatedly by now since the ninties. Americans as consumers are the problem in that we have allowed ourselves to buy these products and services. it's our fault don't blame greed on others..we're all greedy, and we tend to act in the same manner given the chance.
02:04 PM on 01/28/2011
It is all about the money!! Lower employee wage rates; that is where the companies will go. Companies care about profits not people period. American's need to stop crying and realize this reality. IT job paying $100,000+ in America and in India the same type of job or better paying $9000 or less. Smell the coffee America. We and our American Dream (creed) is over priced when compared to the rest of the world. Affluence is now hitting us in the butt (wallets). It is not about American jobs; it is all about the money. Go where the same thing or better can be done for less. More profits at the end of the day looks better for the stock owners/CEO (more money baby). Laws, Treatees, or Agreements it is all BULL. GREEN (money) is KING!!!
12:33 PM on 01/28/2011
Why should we try and compete with the pollution standards of the third world. Is that how Jeff Immelt believes American can "win". The scorched Earth policy? We should have harsh punitive tariffs on any nations that don't match our environmental standards and some of our worker protections. If they want access to American consumer dollars, they will then need to adopt a humanistic approach. We can then create many more jobs, both by reopening much outsourced work here (as foreign countries will lose most of their "competitive" advantage), and overseeing and licensing work being done over there.
08:54 PM on 01/26/2011
WTO type agreements screw the US - see NAFTA - indeed see the new Korean agreements "protection of investment" clause that allows companies to veto on those changes just passed in the financial reform bill.

Every other country - contrary to the media - does not do free trade - they do managed trade with internal restrictions and rules that keep trade imbalances down to small numbers. Tariffs are not evil - and as Paul Sameulson showed in 2004, trade agreements that get GE to set up research labs in other countries are agreements that destroy this countries "competitive advantage" - We do not need the WTO or any more such agreements - we need jobs. But Corporate profit likes these agreements, and they control Obama.
07:24 PM on 01/26/2011
Solar panels are a good example. One of the largest manufacturer's in America consiolidated to a state that offered them a special tax deal. When that deal was up... they closed up the manufacturing shop and moved to China. They still push paper here, but make nothing here.

It's not that we need to end the EPA here, we need to force all products sold here to be at a competitive price to what could be made here by ur standards. The top 2% appreciate their tax cuts and are creating jobs... just not here. Until people realize that free trade equals lower costs for products here, but a loss of jobs... It's one of two ways... adhere to our standards, or the US will have to accept less and less for wages/workers/etc until the equalizatoin point hits. It's conservative philosophy at it's finest with the rising tide theory, with the exception that the tide is going out in America at the moment.
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If I can make it here, I'll make it anywhere
08:02 AM on 01/28/2011
Sadly, an American company, Evergreen in Massachusetts is moving to Wuhan, China for precisely the reasons you stated. This is a big loss for us, because surely other companies will follow suit.
07:05 PM on 01/26/2011
Yeah, we also need to make our executives "competitive" with overseas executives - why don't we start by paying them 10% of what they are now being paid?
06:18 PM on 01/26/2011
This is kind of old news, 60-Minutes covered this exact same thing over 10 years ago.
07:21 PM on 02/27/2011
More old news: Back in the late 1980s, a 60-Minutes type program exposed AMERICAN workers--mostly Black--suffering from an abusive work environment and debilitating work-related injuries at a chicken processing plant in the South or the Mid-West. In the last year or so, I experienced deja vu watching a "news" piece about the same industry but the workers were not American they were illegal immigrants. Moral of this American story: When Americans ask for better working conditions, benefits and/or higher wages, the company's response was to close the factory, dismantle it and ship it to Mexico, India or China; or continue the practice utilizing illegal immigrants--both options seemingly used with the blessing and/or economic support of our American govermental agencies.
At the rate my country's going, we might as well rename it because it is not American, it is not "United" and its society today no longer reflects the mentatlity of the people who made this country great. Reagan promoted greed at the individual level and that's what we have now.
I keep hearing and reading "grow a business" "emerging (whatever)". To what point? Until all American water, soil, plant life and air are poisoned?
For the people/corporations that have millions/billions of dollars, it's never enough and never will be--read your American or world history.
For those who don't approve, stop spending your money on undesirable products or services. Support your fellow-American laborers. United we stand, divided we fall.
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12:05 PM on 01/26/2011
China has 1.4 billion people, India has 1.2 billion people and USA has only 300 million. Naturally, companies going to China and India want to make money out of the rising living standards there. In order to conduct businesses in those countries, it is natural that MNC increase their employee coun there. Simple. If jobs increase exponentially (or greatly) by servicing or selling to people in those countries, then it only points to an unnatural growth pattern.
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I'm just here for the sideboob...
05:34 PM on 01/25/2011
The "Cold War" is now between us, and our corporate masters.
04:31 PM on 01/25/2011
BRAVO Dan Rather!!! Thank you for FINALLY giving voice to the plight of the American IT worker!
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Debbie Niemeyer
02:10 PM on 02/05/2011
ditto...i miss people like dan rather in the news
04:23 PM on 01/25/2011
WOW! What shocked me most was how I felt when reading an honest to goodness, journalism piece. It has been a while!
04:16 PM on 01/25/2011
There is so much "Catch 22" to our predicament. If the jobs keep flowing overseas, the U.S. employment picture will remain bleak. Less workers employed and making a good wage diminishes the tax base and undercuts consumption. Less tax revenues coming in because of the high unemployment creates tax deficits, not only at the federal level, but also at the state level.

Is it so hard to understand that we need a vibrant, employed, middle class to insure not only our wealth but national security.
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04:07 PM on 01/25/2011
Wha...? Real journalism...? It's been so long!
Nice. And, Yes, both parties have promoted this pro-multinational corporate scheme to further concentrate wealth by milking the once bountiful U.S. domestic market dry. They are already moving on to the next mark: Asian markets. We've been convinced that it is a sign of competitive weakness in American labor to protect ourselves against cheap, foreign labor markets...and their low standard of living, lack of infrastructure, and wildly different exchange rates. Why ever would we want to keep all that money here? Wouldn't want government to interfere with "free markets" and intercede on behalf of the best interests of the nation.