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Jeff Macke Is Wrong: You Can't Time the Market

Posted: 09/13/11 09:12 PM ET

Jeff Macke is the host of Yahoo's financial news program, Breakout. His recent column is titled: 'Why Every Investor Needs to Time the Market." Macke's initial premise is that it is a "mathematical fact" that those who have bought stocks over the last 3, 5 or 10 years have lost money "either on an absolute basis or relative to inflation." He believes investors would have been well served by "stepping aside" and that "buying and holding forever, putting Blue Chips in a drawer forever, or dollar-cost averaging have been tantamount to financial self-abuse." Each of these assumptions is incorrect. The potential damage to investors who follow this wrong-headed advice is substantial.

Well-Advised Investors Had a Fine Decade

Well-advised investors hold a globally diversified portfolio of low management fee stock and bond index funds in an asset allocation suitable for them. In The Smartest Portfolio You'll Ever Own, I give investors portfolios they can implement themselves, using readily available index funds and exchange traded funds. For the decade ending 2010, these portfolios had annualized returns ranging from 5.17 percent to 6.85 percent, depending on amount of exposure to stock market risk. Traders and gamblers have portfolios consisting solely of stocks. Investors determine their asset allocation and do not engage in stock picking or market timing.

Market Timing is a Loser's Game

Mr. Macke, who noted that "trading markets is what I do for a living," opined that you can time the market. According to him, it's really simple. All you have to do is use "rudimentary tools like purple crayons and rulers." That's good to know. He must be a very wealthy man. If an investor with his skill was able to forecast all the months that the NYSE outperformed T-Bills (which should not be very difficult for a skilled market timer) from 1927 through 1978, an investment of only $1000 would have grown to $5.36 billion!

Market timing newsletters must have run out of purple crayons. A study (PDF) of over 15,000 predictions by 237 market timing investment newsletters over a twelve year period found that almost 95 percent of them had gone out of business. The authors concluded: "There is no evidence that newsletters can time the markets." Another study featured an interview with Mark Hulbert, who monitors market timing newsletters. Hulbert found that, for the ten year period ending in 1997, all twenty-five newsletters tracked underperformed the S&P 500 index.

Mr. Macke provides no support for his market timing recommendations, which is typical of many in the financial media. There is a lot of data on investing. Before you follow the advice of self-styled investment savants, you should act responsibly and take the time to review it. If you do, you will be persuaded by this observation from legendary investor, Benjamin Graham: "If I have noticed anything over these 60 years on Wall Street, it is that people do not succeed in forecasting what's going to happen to the stock market."


Dan Solin is a Senior Vice President of Index Funds Advisors (ifa.com). He is the author of the New York Times best sellers The Smartest Investment Book You'll Ever Read, The Smartest 401(k) Book You'll Ever Read, and The Smartest Retirement Book You'll Ever Read. His new book, The Smartest Portfolio You'll Ever Own, was released in September, 2011.The views set forth in this blog are the opinions of the author alone and may not represent the views of any firm or entity with whom he is affiliated. The data, information, and content on this blog are for information, education, and non-commercial purposes only. Returns from index funds do not represent the performance of any investment advisory firm. The information on this blog does not involve the rendering of personalized investment advice and is limited to the dissemination of opinions on investing. No reader should construe these opinions as an offer of advisory services. Readers who require investment advice should retain the services of a competent investment professional. The information on this blog is not an offer to buy or sell, or a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell any securities or class of securities mentioned herein. Furthermore, the information on this blog should not be construed as an offer of advisory services. Please note that the author does not recommend specific securities nor is he responsible for comments made by persons posting on this blog.

 
 
 

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05:24 PM on 09/14/2011
I manage my parents retirement accounts - and I do time the markets. It's not a strategy I recommend for anyone but the most seasoned traders. First of all, I buy what I know and it's generally high-growth high quality like Amazon or stocks like Apple with no debt. Second, I look for sectors that are in favor.

Why be diversified if it means investing in a sector that's expected to under perform? It makes no sense to me. Even if investors sold in May and bought back in late October every year, they'd outperform the markets or professionals. Seriously.

Over the last 6-years since I took over management of my parents accounts, they've averaged an annual 38% return with no losses in any year. Managing accounts like this is time consuming and takes a lot of due diligence and it's not what I'd recommend for the average investor.
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Warren Yuill
Jesus Built My Hot-Rod
12:19 PM on 09/14/2011
I bought in Mid march 2009 when I thought we had reached the bottom.
I sold in mid march 2010 after QE1 was tapering off.
I got liquid, payed the vig and payed down on some debt.
Got some breathing room.
All timing.
12:13 PM on 09/14/2011
Well, I sure haven't made anything with buy and hold equity index funds over the last 15 years especially after inflation so Macke is partly right. I don't think any of the historical rules apply much anymore. The executives and Wall St types have figured out how to capture most of the wealth companies create at most places - those gains don't go to stockholders much any more. Now I just buy high dividend "safe" large caps when panic seems to be in the air, sell half when there's no more panic and repeat. Someday a nuclear power plant will probably blow up or a new drug will turn out to have fatal side effects and the profits I made from that will disappear too... No easy money.
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10:50 AM on 09/14/2011
"Know what you own, and know why you own it." If you're investing in a fund, know what They own and know why They own it and "trust, but verify" that Their beliefs and interests do in fact align with yours as they employ their greater buying-power on your behalf.

Right before the implosion of 1929, the most popular stock symbol was: "AOT = Any Old Thing." And that's how I think that "market timers" still view the situation. They're watching a horse-race made up of three- and four-letter symbols, and they're betting on them. But they know nothing, and profess to care less, about what any of those horses had to eat this morning. They have abstracted their ignorance.

And do the stock markets care? No. Stock markets ultimately sell one thing: Transactions. When it comes right down to it, the owners of that for-profit business view the results of every day's trading as:

"The markets BLAH BLAH by BLAH BLAH points today on a volume of THE ONE AND ONLY NUMBER THEY CARE ABOUT," because that number, multiplied by their Commission, is the amount of revenue they booked that day. The only customer they love more than a market-timer is a day-trader.
10:32 AM on 09/14/2011
Investing in good companies is not that hard. However, if you buy mutual funds, you are basically hiring someone to gamble on your behalf.

I buy good companies at reasonable multiples that pay good dividends, and hold them. If a company is trading at 8 times earnings and pays a 4% dividend, and is a good solid company that keeps its eye on its products and customers, then you can buy it. You'll need only 4% growth a year to make your 8%. That will double your money every 7 years, good enough for me.
09:55 AM on 09/14/2011
NEVER keep more than 25 percent of your portfolio in equities and reduce that exposure to 10 percent or zero if you see excessive valuations and unwrranted rampage.

You do have to be smart and active or you will get burned. Markets aren't an easy street autopilot path to enrichment.
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10:55 AM on 09/14/2011
... yes, and every single equity that you own: know what business they're in, read their annual reports from the last page backward, and know exactly how they intend to profitably repay your investment in the money that you have =loaned= to them by the act of purchasing shares of their stock. Only casinos are in the business of gambling, and even they don't gamble on their business. Just like the stock market, they don't care whether you win or you lose; only the number of times a minute that you pull that little handle. The only two words they ever needed to hear in Psychology class were: "conditioned response." There's absolutely nothing wrong with being in a transaction-based business ... whether it's running a casino or running a stock exchange ... but you're investing in the horses, not the track.
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frank day
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09:31 AM on 09/14/2011
Dan's books are a great resource for anyone planning their retirement.

They are easy to read and follow.

The advice is solid.
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
09:29 AM on 09/14/2011
I saw the same commentary by Jeff, it seems to me he was focussing more on people who trade regularly.

Market Timing isn;t a precise thing at all I understand, however Ball Park timing does work on anticipated major moves in the markets. For example, in the Spring (mid April) of 2008 I got out of the market completlely..and stayed out until the dow went under 8,500, then stepped back in with Blue Chips, Apple etc..you would have been an idiot to stay in after June of '08 the collapse was comming and everyone knew it...in the latest mess, which was anticipated since late last year, we pulled out 80% by early April again this year, at the lows we slowly bought back in about 50%. So currently we are around 50% cash..

No market timing on a monthly basis is not a good idea, however when its quite obvious that things are going to tank, the BIG moves down, get out..and come back when the seas are a bit calmer..
09:49 AM on 09/14/2011
I agree, having watched ECRI's macro calls and the general market for over a decade. They have brief related article, "WHEN to Put Your Money Under Your Mattress" on their website.

http://www.businesscycle.com/business_cycles/ecri_insights

"Buying (selling) stocks before recessions (recoveries) based on ECRI's real-time calls would have doubled the returns from a buy-and-hold strategy, beating the S&P by more than eight percentage points a year over the past decade."
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
06:10 PM on 09/14/2011
The point most fund managers make is a good ones, as most people would lose their shirts trading today with the HFT's and the Market Makers fooling with Buy Orders and Sell Orders...they do drive the market..you just have to know when its your turn to ride..
12:05 AM on 09/14/2011
The person who can predict the future hasn't been born yet.

Great message, Mr. Solin!! Keep sending it out there!!!
Javalation
Laughing in a Daydream
11:54 PM on 09/13/2011
Actually, members of Congress beat the market bad all the time. But then, it's probably not really because they are so good at market timing is it?
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jeffp26
10:23 PM on 09/13/2011
I like Dan, but this is pure nonsense. I retired in my late 40s, and make my living -- nicely investing, which includes getting more exposed at bottoms and less so at tops. If an investor truly understands valuation he/she buys when the stock represents a cheap way to buy the productive assets the business owns, and vice versa.

I sold my row-house in NYC in July 2005. That was not accidental.
08:58 PM on 09/13/2011
Dan thank you for your great advice. I wish you were publishing when I started my retirement account 22 years ago. It would of made my investing career so much easier and so much less like gambling.