20th Century Musical Geniuses...
Sir Yehudi Menuhin (1916-1999) was a Jewish American-born violinist, violist, and conductor who spent most of his adult life in the United Kingdom. He began playing the violin at age three, and his first public performance, with the San Francisco Symphony, occurred when he was only seven. During World War II, he performed more than 500 concerts for the Armed Forces, which earned him the French Legion of Honor and Croix de Lorraine, the Belgium Order of the Crown and Order of Leopold, the Order of Merit from West Germany, and the Order of the Phoenix from Greece. He also received more than fifty additional honors, including an honorary knighthood from Queen Elizabeth II (England's highest honor for a non-British subject).
Due to ailments he experienced from the strain of performing and traveling, he began practicing yoga and meditation and using homeopathic medicines. He became the honorary president of the Hahnemann Society, a leading British homeopathic organization.
In early 1988, I sent him a copy of a book I had written on homeopathy. He responded:
Homeopathy attracted me because it is so subtle, so discreet and so effective in approach to the whole human being, and I have certainly met some remarkable people who practice it. For me it is a personal preference as I try to steer clear of all doctors, as few have this commitment, and it is because I find that the world deals these days so much in terms of size and mass and volume and is always striving for bigger mass and bigger volume. The mentality that seems to dominate is meeting one mass with a greater one in order to overcome the lesser. This is, of course, nonsense, as any thinking human being knows, for it does not apply to human life. Many people close to me have benefited from homeopathy. (July 5, 1988)
More publicly, he asserted with great succinctness: "Homeopathy is one of the rare medical approaches which carries no penalties--only benefits." Sir Yehudi further acknowledged that homeopathy's survival has not been easy as it has had to "withstand the assaults of established medical practice for over 100 years" (Kindred Spirits, 1989).
Dizzy Gillespie (1917-1993) was an American jazz trumpeter, bandleader, singer, and composer. Along with Charlie Parker, Gillespie was a major figure in the development of bebop and modern jazz, and played a major role in defining Afro-Cuban jazz. After being introduced to homeopathic medicine by his protégé, Jon Faddis, Dizzy had such remarkable experiences that he once told Faddis: "I've had two revelations in my life. The first was bebop; the second was homeopathy."
Ravi Shankar (1920-) is a Bengali-Indian master musician of the sitar. He played a seminal role in the introduction of classical Indian music to Western culture. Ravi Shankar was another appreciator of homeopathy who not only sought homeopathic treatment wherever he lived but also on the road doing concerts. One Boston homeopath who treated him after a concert remarked how open he was with all around him about his strong preference for homeopathic treatment over all other forms of medicine.
Tina Turner (1939-), often called the queen of rock & roll, is an American pop, rock, and soul singer who has won seven Grammies. She has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
It is hard to imagine, but during the early 1970s this powerful woman was literally brought to her knees by a diagnosis of tuberculosis. She initially sought conventional medical treatment, but continued to suffer, until she sought care from Chandra Sharma, MD, a homeopathic doctor in England. Tina considered him her doctor and her friend. He passed away in 1986, and she wrote in her autobiography: "I miss him more than I can say." Tina also noted: "Fortunately, his son, Rajandra, was his protege and is carrying on his work" (Turner, 1986, 156).
In 1985, Vogue magazine reported on Tina's longtime interest in homeopathy and Buddhism: "Tina Turner looks about thirty-six, and her skin is flawless. She does not deprive herself. She sips wine at dinner, does not diet, does not take vitamins. If she's feeling particularly stressed, she consults a homeopathic doctor" (Orth, 1985).
In her autobiography, she wrote: "Life in the fast lane wore me down, changes in my diet and homeopathy saved me. Thanks to my Homeopathic physician, for bringing me back to health and always being available for me" (Turner, 1986).
Paul McCartney (1942-), formally known as Sir James Paul McCartney, MBE, is best known as a member of the Beatles, and later, as leader of Wings. He is a British singer, musician, and songwriter who the Guiness Book of World Records lists as the most successful composer in popular music history. He has written or co-written more than fifty top-ten hits, and innumerable other music artists and orchestras have recorded his songs.
Paul's first wife, Linda Eastman (1941-1998), introduced her husband to vegetarianism in 1975, and she authored several best-selling vegetarian cookbooks. In a 1992 interview, Linda McCartney asserted: "We never go anywhere without our homeopathic remedies. We often make use of them--and that goes for Paul too" (Glew, 1992).
Linda's interest in homeopathy began when a friend broke her arm, and Linda was duly impressed at how fast the injury healed with homeopathic treatment. But it wasn't until she had her own case of tonsillitis that she actually tried homeopathy herself. She was prescribed a round of antibiotics that worked but only temporarily. She then went to a homeopathic doctor. Not only did her symptoms go away rapidly, they never returned. She said, "We couldn't cope without homeopathy."
Sadly, Linda McCartney died in 1998 due to breast cancer.
Roger Daltrey (1944- ) is the lead singer for The Who. In May, 2008, Daltrey revealed to the Times of London that homeopathic medicine saved his infant son (Naith, 2008). Daltrey revealed, "I had a very, very dramatic experience with my son when he was nine months old. He had gastro difficulties, started throwing up, could not keep any food down and turned into skin and bone. At the hospital, they did every test to him, and in the end they just handed him back to me. My wife and I were in bits. My poor baby. The kid was dying. It was terrifying. I thought, there's got to be something. I'd heard of homeopathy, so I found a local guy in the Yellow Pages and took my boy there. He gave him some powders. Within two weeks he was putting weight on, keeping the food down. The trouble recurred periodically for a couple of years, but he's now 27, a fit and healthy young man."
Daltrey further explained that he has seen other miraculous results from homeopathic treatment, "The bizarre thing is that I've got a chiropractor friend in LA whose baby landed up in exactly the same state. He thought he was about to lose him. But I recommended homoeopathic remedies, and he recovered too. That's God's honest truth. Now I bet doctors would say, 'Oh they'd have got better anyway'. But I can't believe that."
Pete Townshend (1945-) is an influential English rock guitarist and songwriter who is best known as guitarist for The Who. Townshend has authored more than 100 songs, and the rock opera Tommy. Townshend suffers from partial deafness and tinnitus due to exposure to loud music during concerts and through the use of headphones. His condition is attributed in part to an infamous 1967 television appearance during which fellow Who musician, Keith Moon, set off a large amount of explosives inside his drums while Townshend was standing in front of them.
In 2000, Pete told a magazine reporter: "I've had some treatment for it. I found a homeopathic practitioner who has really helped reduce it tremendously" (Wilkerson, 2006, Chapter 18, note six).
Cher (1946-) is a total entertainer and has won a Grammy (1999), an Oscar (1989), three Golden Globe awards (1974, 1984, and 1989), and an Emmy (2003). In 1987 Cher was struck by a debilitating viral illness that manifested in chronic fatigue and bouts of pneumonia. She was disabled from working for two years: "I tried regular medicine and it just didn't work. Doctors said any illness was all in my head. People thought I was crazy."
Then she decided to do something different: "I turned to a Sikh homeopathic doctor, almost in desperation. He started doing homeopathic stuff with herbs and vitamin therapy. Many doctors didn't believe in all that back then. Within four months, he'd got me up and back on the road again."
In addition to seeking care from this unnamed Sikh doctor, Cher sought treatment from a French homeopathic doctor, Dr. Marcel Dinnet. According to famed gossip columnist Liz Smith, Dr. Dinnet is reported to have 10,000 devoted patients in Los Angeles, including Sarah Ferguson (the Duchess of York) and Elizabeth Taylor (Smith, 1988).
Cher pledged her support for the Glasgow Homeopathic Hospital after seeing a TV news report that the government was slashing the city's health budget by 58 million pounds (around $100 million). She intended her donation of $24,000 to encourage others to pledge cash to help keep the hospital open. The hospital treats 500 in-patients a year. The hospital's staff and patients have sharply criticized the budget reduction for both medical and economic reasons. They asserted that closing this important natural medicine hospital could lead to higher health care costs for the Greater Glasgow Health Board. Cher further asserted: "I'm not quite sure exactly what that will mean but I'd be prepared to do anything I can to help." (Sloan, 2004).
(NOTE: The purpose of the above article is not to discuss or provide details about the scientific evidence for homeopathy. For readers who want references to scientific research on homeopathy, I encourage you to visit my other blogs on clinical subjects (especially my blog on "Respiratory Allergies" and "Medical Child Abuse"). People with a serious interest in homeopathic clinical research will benefit from subscribing to my eBook, Homeopathic Family Medicine: Evidence Based Nanopharmacology, which provides reference to and description of almost 200 clinical trials. People who want references to and descriptions of several hundred basic science studies (including research on plants, animals, in vitro, and physics and chemistry studies), go to: http://avilian.co.uk/. Clearly, people who assume that there is "no research that confirms the biological activity or the clinical efficacy of homeopathic medicines" are simply showing their ignorance of the body of scientific evidence.)
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Tim Vawter never got an injunction from a New Jersey Federal District Court to prevent mandatory vaccination of any kind, including H1N1. I don't think he ever tried to mislead anyone himself. But neither did he seem to do anything to correct the error of others.
A look at the actual documents makes obvious how much confirmation bias was needed for anyone to believe that an injunction had been filed, issued or even breathed near.
In fact, during the time when the anti-vaccination community latched on to the story in Natural News and www.naturalnews.com until after it was retracted on August 11, 2009, there wasn't even a law suit issued from the District Court.
You can read the whole sad and bizarre story, including the court docket and documents and the retraction by naturalnews.com including a possible attempt to bribe a judge starting from http://vaccineswork.blogspot.com/2010/01/no-new-jersey-district-court-injunction.html
Null versus FDA
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I've read the court docket and the documents from Vawter. It is bizarre. I'll put them up on the web with some redactions to provide some privacy for Mr. Vawter. Vawter's It was dismissed.
I've read the court docket, the complaint and the reasons for judgment in the Gary Null case. This was put forward by lawyers. I'll put these documents up on the web. It too is bizarre. There was a hearing and it was dismissed on the grounds that the issues it was concerned with had become moot by the time of the hearing. If the issues hadn't become moot, the judge speculated that he just couldn't understand why this complaint was being made in federal court and against Federal agencies. I agree.
Both cases were bizarre. Both cases were dismissed.
Can you respond to the information I posted below, I am reposting it:
http://www.safetylawsuits.com/index.html
The safetylawsuits website is run by Tim Vawter, the person seeking the injunction. I will quote, in his own words:
"A message from Tim; On Oct 2, 2009 the judge ruled against the Injunction to prevent forced flu vaccinations. I am now amending the Injunction, adding in more evidence, and refiling it in a better form. I am appealing everything possible."
If the filer of the injunction is stating that it was, in fact, rejected and ruled against, how can you possibly continue to post the same misinformation. Continuing to reject the facts of this situation will not help your case any further whatsoever.
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Thanks cable1977 for the link to http://www.safetylawsuits.com/index.html. It explains the mistake.
Judges are busy. They want the lawyers to do a lot of the work. So lawyers file materials that make it easier for the judges to finish a case.
The rules of the court determine what the lawyers should file. If you read the link, Vawter filed the text of a suggested preliminary injunction. Vawter probably included in materials he handed out to his sycophants.
Quote:
"Preliminary Injunction ( the Injunction is readied for the judge to sign, however, the judge denied this Injunction on Oct 2, 2009)."
Unquote
The author of the naturalnews.com story that started the nonsense didn't understand that this was a suggested text --- not an unnatural mistake under the circumstances for a writer at naturalnews.com.
Natural news retracted the erroneous article very quickly. They failed to cover the denial of the injunction on October 2nd assuming that date is correct. That's wrong.
Once again, the actual proof that the injunction was denied can be easily found by someone who (typically a lawyer) has a PACER account. But the information I supplied plus a sanity check was sufficient.
I do find it hilarious but sad that ChristyRed and others on the woo-woo side can't admit that they're wrong. My advice to those advocate who reason and science is to always quickly admit an error and move on.
You are also correct that it is sad that individuals are unable to admit mistakes even when the evidence is overwhelmingly against them, even to the point of accusing the opposing side of having confirmation bias on the issue, when all, not just some, of the data points to their arguments being entirely incorrect.
Its a good example of why you should corroborate sources and get different sources of information. And by different sources I mean independent verification, not simply the same story referenced over and over by multiple websites. As I was searching for the actual outcome of the cases, there were numerable sites that had the original naturalnews article verbatim and I"m sure those sites did not change their websites once the retraction was issued.
Having an open internet is very important, however, it also requires vigorous fact-checking and corroboration of any information found, especially on very random websites.
This will be uncomfortable as suggest research will require you to read opinions, facts and a world view that you disagree with.
Just a suggestion to cut down on your cognitive dissonance.
No one ever said flu vaccinations were mandatory for the general population, so I would not expect that you would hear of anyone saying that they were mandated to get a flu shot. The only people who they were ever mandatory for in any state were healthcare workers. The only people claiming they were mandatory for the general population or would be made mandatory for the general population are the anti-vaccine folks.
Even in the face of being totally wrong about what you posted, several times over I might add, you cannot admit that you were wrong about this particular story and instead continue to spin the truth. Obviously your comments have softened a bit so it seems that you may be understanding that your initial statements were wrong.
Regardless of what you know about making flu vaccines mandatory, you posted a link and made comments suggesting that a court had ruled in favor of an injunction when it clearly has not made any such ruling whatsoever. Obviously your comments have softened a bit so it seems that you may be understanding that your initial statements were wrong.
"A preliminary injunction to stop mandatory vaccinations has been issued in the US District Court of New Jersey." "US court issues an injunction to stop it AND TO HOLD THE GOVERNMENT AND DRUG COMPANIES RESPONSIBLE FOR REACTIONS." This is as of 9/29/09 as reported at:
www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-335421?ref=feeds/latest-also
This report also notes that the flu vacs were tested on homeless people in the UK and that 21 of them died as a result.
Also see www.blissplan.com/wellness-fitness/vaccinations-risks/
Sorry, sheldon, but it doesn't get much clearer than that. No matter how you try to manipulate the words of the case and the order, these are the facts. Like it or not.
It's the same with their stance against truth concerning vaccinations. They choose to ignore all the evidence which includes the many people who have seen first hand the truth about homeopathy working & vaccination damage.
Most of these naysayers are not skeptics, at all, when it come to homeopathy. Not the ones who post repeatedly here aren't. Homeopathy is a threat to big pharma & they're here to benefit them, not "We The People"
They work for the corporate big boys, evidently, who want "US" to remain their peasants & under their control. There's no other explanation because these people are not stupid.
They're not crazy either as some have called them because they know exactly what they're doing.
They know what truth is & what's not & it's their mission to confuse & deceive as many as possible.
The dis-service they do to their fellow man is an atrocity & someday, each will pay for the evil stance they have taken against the health & well being of mankind.
These people have no shame & whether they believe in Karma or not, it will get them all eventually.
What goes around does come around & we who have hearts & care about our people can count on that.
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One of the problems with responding to homeopathic believers is that they have such a fixed world view that the facts just slide right by them.
For example, I've explained to ChristyRed that no US Federal Court in New Jersy ever granted an injunction against H1N1 vaccination, backed it up with some logic and some links, including one that apparently copied an apology from naturalnews.com.
To which I get the following reply.
ChristyRed writes:
"What a ridiculous bunch of nonsense! The US District Court certainly did find that the vacs weren't thoroughly investigated for safety. As a result they are NOT mandatory in NJ and, even further, this decision affects the legality of making them mandatory across the entire US."
You would think that someone would read the linked articles before giving such a positive response -- especially to me, because I'm pretty careful about what I write.
In the absence of an active PACER account to look at the court docket http://www.rense.com/general87/mislead.htm , let's do a site search at naturalnews.com. Google site:naturalnews.com new jersey injunction vaccine OR vaccination
Wow, there is an apology from naturalnews.com.
So that's the August story. The absence of a newer story means that either an injunction wasn't granted or it was granted and naturalnews.com someone missed the story. Guess which I'd bet my life on.
Such unbelievable confirmation bias isn't limited to ChristyRed.
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Denial of the facts, distortion of the facts and attempts to discredit anyone speaking for homeopathy and attempts to discredit the facts evidencing for homeopathic success. Yes, sheldon, you could add your own special brand of confirmation bias to this mix.
http://www.safetylawsuits.com/index.html
The safetylawsuits website is run by Tim Vawter, the person seeking the injunction. I will quote, in his own words:
"A message from Tim; On Oct 2, 2009 the judge ruled against the Injunction to prevent forced flu vaccinations. I am now amending the Injunction, adding in more evidence, and refiling it in a better form. I am appealing everything possible."
How is it distorting the facts when the litigant himself says that the injunction was denied? You are either intentionally misleading people or simply do not know the true facts of this situation. In the face of such evidence, how can you possibly continue to claim that the injunction was approved?
http://www.aidshealing.org/results.php
http://gateway.nlm.nih.gov/MeetingAbstracts/ma?f=102231175.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/025447.html
http://www.homeopathyworldcommunity.com/profiles/blogs/clinical-trial-of-homoeopathic
peter chappell the bloke who thinks he can cure almost anything including HIV with sound, pure quackery indeed.
an abstract from a conference and i am guessing its unpublished research. i wonder how many of the 61 people are still alive?
jeremey sherr the man who has disappeared after re-editing his blog and i hope he never reappears. http://www.layscience.net/node/470
finally a presentation from one of those sites where everyone gets a pat on the back everytime they post something.. i am guessing yet another unpublished piece of rambling including statements like "its difficult to make a conclusion" and then making conclusions.
Well, nobbler, if you're not sure, whyn't you say so?
I don't know if Jeremy got swallowed by a tiger, but he hasn't made a post about his adventures in Africa fighting AIDS with magicked water since February 22, 2009.
I just wish that those who support homeopathy would do the rest of us a favor and check out the sources they post. I realize that may leave them with nothing to say, but that is the risk they take.
"“Alternative medicine, the focus of a new critique titled Trick or Treatment? by the science writer Simon Singh and Edzard Ernst, ‘the world’s first professor of complementary medicine’, has become another target of the radical backlash. Following the spectacular success of a series of works promoting militant secularism, a spate of books and blogs now signals a new crusade against alternative medicine.”
“it is light on references”
“My reservations about Trick or Treatment? concern its uncritical endorsement of what the health policy expert Rudolph Klein has characterised as the ‘new scientism’ of ‘evidence-based medicine’ (1), its incoherent advice to doctors on telling the truth and its curiously paternalistic approach towards patients."
Do yourself a favor and do a google search on the term "what's the harm?".
Ernst is a professor of Complementary and Alternative medicine, so is he not in a unique position to have experience to comment on such matters? As someone who has done research for many years into alternative medicine, is his interpretation of the facts not worth listening to and considering?
http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/reviewofbooks_article/5209/
You should wear as a badge of honor the fact your articles have come to constitute a need for "all" these same naysayers to gather together to try to disrupt & clog your threads so regularly & consistently.
We, who are paying attention, know their goal is to see to it that fair discussion has no chance. I think any new people looking in should know this & I think it's up to us to remind them now & again so there's a decent chance for truth in this matter to have a serious say.
This is only fair.
The matter of Homeopathy is such a threat, they have to resort to great length to congest & discourage people from commenting. If there are new people commenting, they work very hard to see to it those comments get buried real quick in their repetitive, deceptive & incessant same rhetoric so further discussion is lost.
This target you've become, Dana, to these people so repeatedly goes to show the importance of the matter in them having to all concentrate their efforts as a team to such an exaggerated degree as evidenced here.
Kudos to you & keep up the good work.
Someone has to keep these bad boys on their toes so they can earn their keep. ^smile^
"The Cartesian theory of 'body' quickly collapsed under the weight of Newtonian discoveries. We now no longer have a definite concept of the body. Rather the theory of body-or physics-is formulated in concepts of forces, waves, particles, etc."
"WE can no longer ask whether some phenomenon falls outside the range of "body". We can only ask whether our current concepts of body are adequate to account for some phenomena"
"If not, you must extend and modify your basic physics, just as (Newton) extended Cartesian Mechanics to account for the motion of the heavenly bodies"
Cool. The language-meister says that if we have a phenomenon (cancer, AIDS patients being cured through homoeopathy, for example) then we need to extend and modify our way of thinking to understand the phenomenon.
Works for me.
http://www.modernhomoeopathy.com/
http://www.modernhomoeopathy.com/studies_on_the_efficacy_of_homoe.htm
Just to whet your curiousity.
Or not.
That is what science does and has done for several centuries now. As new information becomes available, then current theories are modified. However, a phenomenon must be reproducible and consistent in order to be understood in order to change our understanding of the universe. As of yet, there has not been sufficient evidence of prove the existence of such phenomena (especially given that multiple reviews have stated that homeopathy is no better than placebo). If you want to discuss the evidence for homeopathy, you also must be willing to discuss and consider the evidence against it, especially in the light of publication bias (i.e. not publishing negative results). Only then can you make the conclusion that you have a novel and reproducible phenomena and that there is a necessity for modification of current scientific thought. There is certainly not an abundance, or even a preponderance, of evidence, whether in vitro, in vivo, or clinical supporting homeopathy and therefore is far too premature to consider changing scientific theories based on very small, methodologically poor studies.
from the makers of Vioxx.
But then you're arguing with a person (me) who if you say homeopathic efficacy was unproven, would reply that it wasn't disproven, or if you said "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof" I'd say, "Carl Sagan was a twit whose expertise in astronomy did not qualify him to pontificate on Astrology or even to shine Immanuel Velikovsky's shoes" but then frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grWfxsFWOFI&feature=SeriesPlayList&p=13C076E8CE7FCD4D
It is long, but well worth a listen.
Thank you for that link, it's priceless! I have read Dawkins but very rarely get to see any of his interviews. I thought it was intelligent, polite and insightful. I only got thru 2 of 6 but had to comment. A very good point was made at around 8 min. into the second flick about what homeopaths could contribute to modern medicine. I'm going to go back and watch the other 4.
Again Thanks
On one of the other segments Baum also discusses how simple and inexpensive it would be to set up some comprehensive controlled trials of individualized treatments (which is something I often see mentioned as to why RCT's don't work well for homeopathy).
Malzor concedes after listening to the whole clip, she is very convincing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOoXN5Oxdo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIaV8swc-fo&feature=related
Best quote:
"Science knows it doesn't know everything. If it did, it would stop. But just because science doesn't know everything doesn't mean you get to fill in the gaps."
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."
In particular, Doyle had a real appreciation for homeopathic ARNICA and did not think that there was anything better.
To learn about so many other "literary greats" who wrote about and/or advocate for homeopathy, see a sample chapter from my book, "The Homeopathic Revolution," at:
http://homeopathicrevolution.com/pages/excerpt.jsp
Believing is different than having evidence.
Homeopathy is shown to NOT work in ALL properly done blind studies.
http://www.amjmed.com/article/PIIS0002934309005336/fulltext
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1874503/?tool=pubmed
To quote him:
"My plea is simply for honesty. Let people buy what they want, but tell them the truth about what they are buying. These treatments are biologically implausible and the clinical tests have shown they don't do anything at all in human beings. The argument that this information is not relevant or important for customers is quite simply ridiculous."