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The Disinformation Campaign Against Homeopathy

Posted: 09/14/11 12:14 PM ET

Homeopathic medicine is at present one of the leading alternative therapies practiced by physicians in Europe (particularly France, Germany, UK and Italy) and Asia, especially on the Indian subcontinent (EU Commission, 1997; Prasad, 2007). Since homeopathy's development as a medical specialty in the early 1800s, it has been a leading alternative to orthodox medicine internationally, and it has posed an ongoing threat to the scientific, philosophical and economics of conventional medical care.

The homeopathic approach to healing maintains a deep respect for symptoms of illness as important defenses of a person's immune and defense system. While conventional medicine often tends to assume that symptoms are something "wrong" with the person that need to be treated, inhibited, suppressed or biochemically manipulated, homeopaths tend to assume that symptoms are important defenses of the organism that are most effectively resolved when treatments nurture, nourish or mimic the symptoms in order to initiate a healing process. Ultimately, these two different approaches to healing people have led to various conflicts.

It is common, for instance, for homeopaths to question the alleged "scientific" studies that conventional drugs are "effective" as treatments because of concern that many of these treatments tend to suppress symptoms or disrupt the complex inner ecology of the body and create much more serious illness. Just as opiate drugs of the 19th century gave the guise of healing, homeopaths contend that many modern-day drugs provide blessed short-term relief but create immune dysfunction, mental illness and other chronic disease processes in its wake. Further, the fact that most people today are prescribed multiple drugs concurrently, despite the fact that clinical research is rarely conducted showing the safety or efficacy of such practices, forces us all to question how scientific modern medicine truly is.

Homeopaths contend that increased rates of cancer, heart disease, chronic fatigue and various chronic diseases for increasingly younger people may result from conventional medicine's suppression of symptoms and disease processes. It is therefore no surprise that conventional physicians and Big Pharma have a long and dark history of working together to attack homeopathy and homeopaths.

The antagonism against homeopathy began when the highly-respected Saxon physician Samuel Hahnemann, M.D., first developed the system in the early 1800s. Hahnemann was a translator of leading medical and pharmacology texts and the author of the leading textbook used by pharmacists of his day.

Despite Hahnemann's high stature in medicine, pharmacology and chemistry, his strong critique of conventional medicine led to personal attacks against him by orthodox physicians as well as by the apothecaries (the drug makers of that time) who were philosophically and economically threatened by Hahnemann's work. When homeopathy arrived in America in 1825, it grew rapidly due to its widely-recognized success in treating infectious disease epidemics that raged in the early and mid-1800s. Then, when the American Institute of Homeopathy became the first national medical organization in 1844, a rival organization developed that proposed to stop the growth of homeopathy (Rothstein, 1985, p. 232). That organization called itself the American Medical Association, and this organization worked relentlessly to diminish the popularity and influence of this natural medicine.

Paul Starr's Pulitzer Prize-winning book, "The Social Transformation of American Medicine," acknowledged the stature that homeopathy achieved in America in the mid-and later 19th century:

"Because homeopathy was simultaneously philosophical and experimental, it seemed to many people to be more rather than less scientific than orthodox medicine" (p. 97).

U.S. President William McKinley even dedicated a special monument to Dr. Hahnemann in Washington, D.C., in 1900, which still stands today as the only monument in America's capital to the deeds of a physician.

However, because of the economic, philosophical and scientific threat that the paradigm and practice of homeopathy represents, the vitriol and antagonism still exists. It is therefore enlightening to expose the disinformation that is spread about homeopathy and then understand who is leading this disinformation campaign (the second part of this article will name names and discuss two individuals, one from the U.S. and one from the UK, who are presently leaders in the campaign against homeopathy).

The Myths Spread about Homeopathy

Like other propagandists, the homeopathy deniers seek to create disinformation by using three straightforward techniques. First, the homeopathy deniers make a simple false accusation, a lie, and repeat it constantly and consistently in an attempt to make it a new "truth." Second, this repetition is then done within the context of some legitimizing element. In the case of the homeopathy deniers, that element is a corruption of normal science, an analysis of scientific evidence that creates reasons (excuses) to exclude high-quality studies that show positive results (even those studies that have been published in leading conventional medical journals), and a mis-use of the concept of skepticism. The homeopathy deniers ignore or downplay the substantial body of evidence from basic science and clinical research, from outcome studies, from cost-effectiveness studies and from epidemiological evidence, and only quote from those studies that verify their own point of view, rather than reviewing the entire body of evidence.

The third component of the technique is to sell the lie to a vulnerable population in an attempt to have repetition from that group. In the case of the homeopathy deniers, the vulnerable groups are often young students of science who are enamored with the language and elitism of their newly-learned craft, but who lack the deep understanding and experience to realize that they are being "used" by the deniers. The homeopathy deniers also play on the fears of those older and established scientists and physicians and who are led to believe that "if homeopathy is true, then everything about modern medicine and science is false." This over-simplification of reality is commonly repeated.

However, just as quantum physics does not "disprove" all of physics -- but, rather,extends our capability to understand and predict events on extremely small and extremely large systems -- likewise, homeopathy does not disprove all of modern pharmacology but extends our understanding of the use of extremely small doses of medicinal agents to elicit healing responses.

History is replete with orthodox medicine and science being steadfastly resistant to different systems of medicine and paradigms of healing. Although, the average physician and scientist tends to be threatened by new ideas, a common attribute of leading physicians and scientists is a certain openness and humility due to the common and even expected evolution of knowledge.

It should be acknowledged upfront that homeopathic practitioners, patients and users of these natural medicines are often surprised and amazed at the results they experience in the treatment of themselves, children, infants, animals and even plants. In my observations over the past 40 years, most people are skeptical about homeopathy until they try it and see for themselves ... and there are then good reasons that tens of millions of people all over the world use and rely upon these natural medicines for a wide range of acute and chronic ailments. That said, the challenge is not just trying homeopathy, but first learning something about it so you can use it correctly and effectively.

Sadly, however, the homeopathy deniers tend to spread disinformation about homeopathy, including the following myths:

Myth #1: "There is no research that shows that homeopathic medicines work."

Such statements are a creative use of statistics, or what might be called "lies, damn lies and statistics." Actually, most clinical research studies conducted with homeopathic medicines show a positive outcome. However, if "creative statisticians" evaluate only the smaller number of large studies, a positive result is less likely, not because homeopathy doesn't work, but because these larger studies tend to dispense only one homeopathic medicine for everyone in the study, without any degree of individualized treatment that is typical of the homeopathic method (1). To claim that homeopathic medicines do not work using only these studies is as illogical as to say that antibiotics are ineffective just because they do not cure for every viral, fungal or bacterial infection.

Myth #2: "The research studies showing that homeopathic medicines work are 'poorly conducted studies.'"

Wrong! Studies showing the efficacy of homeopathic medicines have been published in the Lancet, the British Medical Journal, Pediatrics, Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal, Cochrane Reports, Chest (the publication of the British Society of Rheumatology), Cancer (the journal of the American Cancer Society), Journal of Clinical Oncology (journal of the Society of Clinical Oncology), Human Toxicology, European Journal of Pediatrics, Archives in Facial Plastic Surgery, Archives of Otolaryngology -- Head and Neck Surgery, Journal of Clinical Psychiatry and many more (2). All of these studies were randomized, double-blind and placebo controlled. Further, because of bias against homeopathy, these studies have been scrutinized rigorously, perhaps even more rigorously than is usual.

The weak response from the homeopathy deniers is that the above studies are "cherry-picked." Well, it seems that there are a lot of "cherries" (clinical studies that verify the efficacy of homeopathic medicines). Also, numerous of the above leading medical journals have published meta-analyzes of clinical trials on specific diseases and have shown that homeopathic medicines have significantly more benefits than does a placebo. And further, the deniers erroneously equate the "negative" studies as evidence that the whole system of homeopathy does not work when, in fact, these studies are usually of a preliminary nature that explored the use of one or a small handful of remedies for a specific condition.

Ironically, the one review of research that the homeopathic deniers most commonly assert as strong evidence that there's no difference between homeopathic medicines and placebo (Shang et al, 2005) has been shown to be bad or certainly inadequate science (Walach, et al, 2005; Fisher, 2006; Rutten, 2009, Rutten and Stolper, 2008; Lüdtke and Rutten, 2008).

Myth #3: "12C is like one drop in the entire Atlantic Ocean."

Pure fantasy (and fuzzy math)! In fact, the 12C dose requires 12 test tubes, and 1 percent of the solution is drawn from each of the 12 test tubes. It is also very typical for the "deniers" of homeopathy to assert with a straight face that the making of a single homeopathic medicine requires more water than exists on the planet. It seems that the skeptics are so fundamentalist in their point of view that they consciously or unconsciously mis-assume that the dilutions used in homeopathy grow proportionately with each dilution; they assume that each dilution requires 10 or 100 times more water with each dilution -- which they don't, and even the most elementary articles and books on homeopathy affirm this fact. Sadly (and strangely), most of the skeptics of homeopathy seem to read each other's misinformation on homeopathy and have a propensity to spin the reality of what homeopathy is in ways that misconstrue it.

Myth #4: "There is nothing in a homeopathic medicine. It is just water."

Ignorance and direct disinformation. First, a large number of homeopathic medicines that are sold in health food stores and pharmacies are what are called "low potencies," that is, small or very small doses of medicines, most of which are in a similar dose to which certain powerful hormones and immune cells circulate in our body. Second, using samples of six different medicines made from minerals, scientists at the Department of Engineering at the Indian Institute of Technology have consistently confirmed that the starting substance is still present in the form of nanoparticles of the starting minerals even when the medicine has undergone hundreds of serial dilutions -- with vigorous shaking in between each dilution, as per the homeopathic method (Chikramane, Suresh, Bellare, 2010) (3). Further, leading chemistry and physics journals have published other research to confirm that there are differences between water and "homeopathic water" (Elia and Niccoli, 1999; Elia, Napoli, Niccoli, et al, 2008; Rey, 2003)

Myth #5: "If we do not presently understand how homeopathic medicines work, then, they cannot work. It's witchcraft."

Lame on face value. How many more times in history do scientists and others need before they realize that we do not understand a lot of nature's mysteries, but our lack of understanding does not mean that the mysteries are not real. Calling homeopathy "witchcraft" clearly is someone's fear of what they do not know or understand, and a common observation from history is that whenever one goes on a witchhunt, a witch is found (one way or another). The fact that there is a small but significant body of basic sciences research that has shown physical and biological effects from homeopathic medicines tends to be ignored (Endler, Thieves, Reich, et al 2010; Witt, Bluth, Albrecht, et al, 2007). To publish in peer-reviewed scientific journals is not a common practice from witches (or warlocks).

Dr. Karol Sikora is a respected oncologist and dean of the University of Buckingham medical school in England. Sikora has expressed serious concern about the "Stalinist repression" that certain skeptics of homeopathic and alternative medicines engage (Sikora, 2009). Sikora has harshly criticized "armchair physicians" and others who seem to have little or no experience in using these treatments with real patients.

One other critical piece of evidence to show and even prove the unscientific attitude of the homeopathy deniers is that they now wish to close off all discussion of the efficacy of homeopathic medicines (Baum and Ernst, 2009). These medical fundamentalists actually discourage keeping an open mind about homeopathy. One must question this unscientific attitude that select antagonists to homeopathy embody, and one must even wonder why they maintain such a position.

The second part of this article will provide further specific evidence of the unscientific attitude and actions from those individuals and organizations who are leading the campaign against homeopathy. A leading antagonist to homeopathy from the U.S. and another from the UK will be discussed in order to shed light on this important debate in health care. Stay tuned to find out who they are and why they maintain their point of view.


FOOTNOTES:

(1) Although individualization of treatment is one of the hallmarks of the homeopathic method, there are exceptions to this common rule. For instance, there have been four large randomized, double-blind and placebo-controlled studies that have shown that homeopathic Oscillococcinum is effective in treating people with influenza or influenza-like syndrome (Vickers and Smith, 2006).

(2) References to these and other studies can be found in the following article: The Case FOR Homeopathic Medicine: Historical and Scientific Evidence -- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dana-ullman/the-case-for-homeopathic_b_451187.html

(3) Transmission Electron Microscopy (TEM), electron diffraction by Selected Area Electron Diffraction (SAED), and chemical analysis by Inductively Coupled Plasma-Atomic Emission Spectroscopy.


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Chikramane PS, Suresh AK, Bellare JR, and Govind S. Extreme homeopathic dilutions retain starting materials: A nanoparticulate perspective. Homeopathy. Volume 99, Issue 4, October 2010, 231-242. http://www.homeopathy.org/files/HomeopathyandNanoparticle.pdf

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Shang A, Huwiler-Müntener K, Nartey L, Jüni P, Dörig S, Sterne JA, Pewsner D, Egger M. Are the clinical effects of homoeopathy placebo effects? Comparative study of placebo-controlled trials of homoeopathy and allopathy. The Lancet. 366,9487, 27 August 2005:726-732. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16125589

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Witt CM, Bluth M, Albrecht H, Weisshuhn TE, Baumgartner S, Willich SN. The in vitro evidence for an effect of high homeopathic potencies--a systematic review of the literature. Complement Ther Med. 2007 Jun;15(2):128-38. Epub 2007 Mar 28. From 75 publications, 67 experiments (1/3 of them replications) were evaluated. Nearly 3/4 of them found a high potency effect, and nearly 3/4 of all replications were positive. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&uid=17544864&cmd=showdetailview&indexed=google

 
 
 

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04:23 AM on 10/16/2011
Huffpost, I am embarrassed for you.
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StThomas
Not until I see the holes of the nails....
03:22 PM on 10/03/2011
I wonder if this conforms to homoepathic theory......

http://thecreationnews.com/photos/item/101/asinline
12:45 AM on 09/27/2011
Drip! Drip! Drip! There. I just poured a few ml of various homeopathic concentrates in our region's lake from which everyone's drinking water is drawn. By homeopathic theory, everyone in the region will now be cured of everything. Even the hospitals will be emptied because patients there get water from the lake. The poor MD's will all go out of business.
02:03 PM on 09/27/2011
I have posed similar questions before, the answer I get back is that because this is a simple dilution, without the carefully performed act of "succussion" (a specific technique to shaking), you will not have a homeopathic remedy.

Another way of looking at it: since homeopathy was "discovered" in the late 1700's, thousands-- if not millions-- of remedies have been prepared, consumed, and re-entered the natural water cycle. Therefore, it is almost impossible to drink a glass of water that does not contain a significant number of water molecules that were once part of a homeopathic preparation at some time in the past. So why bother? Since every glass already contains any remedy you might want, there is no need to seek a homeopath to prepare something for you... right?

No, that is apparently not correct, because once a remedy is used, the "vibrations" in the water molecules disappear as the body gains the benefits of the homeopathic preparation-- thus loosing its memory and becoming just plain water.

I would appreciate anyone with more knowledge correcting these points if I have misunderstood.
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Dyson
debunking pseudoscience, one fallacy at a time.
03:54 AM on 09/28/2011
Of course they "should" be cured. But in fact according to homeopathic theory, remedies for absolutely everything have been entering the nation's water supplies for decades, so I am at a loss to know why according to the homeopaths we live is such a diseased society..
10:54 PM on 09/26/2011
Having already addressed the author's logical fallacies (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/AJW1976/disinformation-about-homeopathy_b_952967_109328179.html) I will now examine his discursive technique, which is adequately summarized by Humpty Dumpty in ~Through the Looking Glass~:

'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'

For example, "denialism" is commonly understood to be "...the refusal to accept an empirically verifiable reality". In reality, it is the author who practices denialism every time he posts an article in which he cherry-picks and misrepresents the data so as to avoid the uncomfortable truth that homeopathy is an elaborate sham.

It is only through the homeopathic looking glass that those who rely upon the verifiable empirical evidence that demonstrates that homeopathy is not efficacious and lacks a plausible mechanism of action can be considered denialists. For Humpty DUllman, "denialist" means anyone who disagrees with him.

Unfortunately it is the advocates of homeopathy are denialists because it is they who ignore any and all evidence contrary to their prior beliefs (and which, not coincidentally, are also contrary to their own financial interests).
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09:02 PM on 09/26/2011
Anyone see the movie "Contagion"? I bet homeopathy supporters would see the Jude Law character as the unsung hero: A lone blogger, fighting against the evil pharmaceutical companies and the CDC to promote a homeopathic drug called "Forsythia" in the face of a virulent pathogen.
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Dana Ullman
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10:40 PM on 09/26/2011
DakkonA is practicing his disinformation here. At no time in the movie, "Contagion," does the Jude Law character ever say that his recommend treatment is a "homeopathic medicine." In fact, Forsythia is a Chinese herb...with just a thousand or so years of medical usage, though not in contagious diseases.

The only time that the words "homeopathic medicine" is used is by the head of the CDC's investigations of the contagious disease (played by Laurence Fishburne)...and he mentioned it during a television interview where he tells the audience that the CDC has plans to investigate "homeopathic and other alternatives." It was a nice touch...

It is simply curious that some "deniers" deny denying...and yet baste in spreading their disinformation...the above comment is "case and point." A classic.
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cable1977
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01:00 AM on 09/27/2011
Wow....are you seriously trying to spin the plot of a movie?
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04:09 AM on 09/27/2011
It really doesn't matter whether it was truly homeopathic or just an herb. The character echoes everything I've seen from you and yours: a belief in the conspiracy of the pharmaceutical companies, a belief that 'natural' alternative drugs somehow without side-effects are much better than actual drugs or vaccines, trusting anecdotal reports over actual studies, etc.
10:56 PM on 09/26/2011
It is on my "to see" list but I have not yet seen it. Was the lone blogger in Contagion banned from editing Wikipedia articles for repeatedly posting false and misleading information?
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DakkonA
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04:02 AM on 09/27/2011
Close. He films himself being "sick" taking this drug and surviving, and makes money off the panic of people with no where else to turn. He's brought in for questioning for fraud, among other things, and turns out he has no antibodies to the virus, which he dismisses as junk. And then his many followers made bail for him and he walks free.

The movie does a really good job of portraying scientists and the science. They could learn something from it if they opened their eyes to the severe lack of a grand conspiracy and evil people plotting to destroy human health.
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Dyson
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11:44 AM on 09/26/2011
Christy: Here are examples of cancer cases cured by homeopathy!
Reply: Those are unverified, anecdotal reports. Can you show us independent research studies published in any mainstream science/me­dical journal where this has been demonstrated?
Christy: No, but... here are some cases of diabetes cured by homeopathy!
Reply: Errr, No again. Can you link to the research?
Christy: No. But here are cases of cardiac arrest cured 30 minutes later with homeopathy!
Reply: They are not even cardiac arrests. Can you provide a link to published, verifiable studies about this in any mainstream science/me­dical journal?
Christy: No. But look! - Randi's friend has been arrested! That must mean homeopathy works
Reply: Sigh....
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07:30 PM on 09/26/2011
1. "Inhibition of chemically induced carcinogenesis by drugs used in homeopathy medicine"
Asian Pacific Journal Cancer Prevention. 2007

2. "Can homeopathy treatment slow prostate cancer growth"
Integrated Cancer Therapy. 2006

3. "Cytotoxic effects of ultra-diluted remedies on breast cancer cells"
International Journal of Oncology. 2010
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08:30 PM on 09/26/2011
1. "There is no significant change in the survival of animals at 29th week treated with homeo drugs. [...] Administrations of homeo drugs were ineffective in controlling the increased the [sic] liver weight induced by the NDEA (Table 1)." There are some other molecular markers that appear to be reduced. However, there is no mention of what sort of statistical testing they used, and instead of comparing to the vehicle, as should be done, they compared to totally untreated. In effect, they don't account for the effects of ethanol. Somewhat telling is that they claim "83.4 +/- 11.22" is significantly different from untreated "156.0 +/- 19.6", but somehow "90.3 +/- 5.48" for vehicle is not (Table 3). And yet later they claim that the drugs prevented hematocellular carcinoma in rats after looking at their livers, when there was no change in survival or liver weight.
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08:42 PM on 09/26/2011
2. Their results hinge on the survival graphs (a running tally of number of animals meeting the condition over time). It looks to me like there just happened to be a few rats where the injected tumor cells didn't take. The graphs would look identical if not for those few animals. Given the supposed ideas behind homeopathy, you would expect more animals to benefit to some extent, rather than a couple benefiting 100% and the rest having no benefit whatsoever.
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08:15 PM on 09/26/2011
4. "Integrative oncology research in the Middle East: weaving traditional and complementary medicine in supportive care"

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21360035
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09:12 PM on 09/26/2011
4. That's a review article covering all of CAM, and only has one (1) publication cited regarding homeopathy. And even then, it isn't really *your* version of homeopathy: it is an herbal mix at low dilutions where there might still actually be some of the extract in the thing you ingest.
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06:12 PM on 09/25/2011
Here's an update on the arrest of Alvarez -- James Randi's 20-year partner, a board member of the James Randi Educational Foundation and participant in many of Randi's debunking hoaxes which earned Randi some lucrative speaking and TV engagements.

"Alvarez, who purportedly is 43, was charged with stealing a New York man's date of birth and Social Security number in 1987 to obtain a U.S. passport.

"More immediately pressing for Randi, and Alvarez's attorneys, is securing Alvarez's release from the Broward Main Jail. Prosecutors said they will seek to have him held without bond. For Alvarez to be released, he may have to reveal his true identity, which would be tantamount to an admission of guilt.

"He's in an interesting box now," said Jeffrey Neiman, a former federal prosecutor......I can't imagine a magistrate judge giving a bond without knowing who it is they are giving a bond to."

www.dailygrail.com/Skepticism/2011/9/Randis-Partner-Arrested-Identity-Theft

Hocus, pocus...now you see it, now you don't...so much for the $1 million prize, the BBC "experiment" and all the rest of it!

OTOH, surely Randi could just do a little magic setting Alvarez down on Rodeo Drive to do a some shopping.
08:12 PM on 09/25/2011
How do allegations that Alvarez has been passing himself of as someone that he is not have any relationship to the JREF's $1 million dollar prize, the BBC experiment and the work of Randi generally? They do not.

Moreover, it is alleged that Alavarez usurped the identity of someone else prior to meeting Randi, which would mean that Randi was deceived too. When was the last time to attempted to verify the identity of somebody you met and what steps did you take?

I can understand why you would want to attempt to poison the well rather than substantively address the criticisms raised by Randi and others. At the end of the day it is the data and not the persons conducting the tests that are relevant. Even if Randi were complicit, and nobody has even alleged that he had knowledge of the deception, that would not change the outcome of, for example, the BBC tests you reference.

Once again fail to make a substantive argument and instead rely upon fallacies in your attempts to promote homeopathy.
10:37 PM on 09/25/2011
Is there a homeopathic solution to Alvarez's problems? The title of this article is "The Disinformation Campaign Against Homeopathy", which as other posters have demonstrated, there is much to be discussed. Friends of magicians is as relevant as friends of Dana Ullman, or your friends, or my friends.
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Evidence-based Homeopathy
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Dyson
debunking pseudoscience, one fallacy at a time.
11:27 AM on 09/26/2011
10^30 facts about homeopathy:

It doesn't work!
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ChristyRed
05:45 PM on 09/24/2011
The public should know that homeopathy is famous for its cures of chronic diseases like type 2 diabetes. To read case studies of patients treated for type 2 diabetes, please see:

www.hpathy.com (search "Dr. Bhatia diabetes", "clinical cases" and "Ask the Doctor") In fact the home page features four cases of cataracts cured with homeopathy.

To see case records of every type of disease cured through homeopathy just google "homeopathy cured cases" and see:

www.pbhrfindia.org/index.php/cure-of-brain-tumor-casestudy-1
www.pbhrfindia.org/index.php/cure-of-brain-tumor-casestudy-2
www.pbhrfindia.org/index.php/case-studies (other forms of cancer)

In particular, see the web site of George Vithoulkas for some of his very impressive cured cases.

The deniers can only deny the facts. They cannot change them.
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StThomas
Not until I see the holes of the nails....
06:29 PM on 09/24/2011
You have never once come up with a case of cured type 2 diabetes, in the two years you've been on Huffpo. Want to set some more up for me to knock down?

On following the links to the two tumours, they were both low grade astrocytomas, which are known to remit spontaneously from time to time. I wonder how many other patients with brain tumour there were whose condition did not remit, but who thought they were getting real treatment.
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ChristyRed
08:03 PM on 09/24/2011
The 5-year survival rate of brain tumor patients treated by Banerji Clinic using homeopathy alone is 32%. The survival rate for patients using conventional treatment is 0.03%. Using homeopathy alone Banerji Clinic has a rate of complete remission of astrocytomas of 21%. It has a rate of complete remission of gliomas of 22% and a rate of 20% complete remission of meningiomas -- no chemo, no surgery, no radiation.

No excuse, justification or rationalization you could possibly dream up changes those facts. The day may come when you, yourself, will have reason to pray for such a remission.
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ChristyRed
08:05 PM on 09/24/2011
And I think this is where our "discussion" ends.
09:59 PM on 10/19/2011
If the Banerji Protocol actually worked then why isn't the MD Anderson Clinic (linked to Banerji) in the USA using it? Why aren't they also getting the same sort of results?

Research out of Asia and India needs to be viewed very carefully as there has been a history of corruption and fraud in medical research from these regions. Not all research is fraudulent but results that have not been replicated outside a single organisation is most likely is a fraud.
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Dyson
debunking pseudoscience, one fallacy at a time.
07:15 AM on 09/24/2011
I was surprised to see this claim from Christy Red:
"You might be very surprised to know that cardiac arrest can be effectivel­y and quickly treated (within 30 minutes) by a homeopath outside of a hospital"

Seeing as how the cerebral anoxia that occurs following cardiac arrest without any effective cardiac output is usually fatal within 5 minutes, I guess the homeopaths have been treating deceased persons.

I genuinely would like some details on these cases if any is available. Christy, such a treatment would be hailed worldwide as a major medical revolution, and will no doubt have been widely reported in mainstream, peer-reviewed medical journals.

Can you give us a link to the scientific publications?

If you can't, they are merely unverifiable anecdotes.
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ChristyRed
11:28 AM on 09/24/2011
If you had read the material at the link I posted you wouldn't have to ask for "some details on these cases if any is available...." and you would not have to be making such foolish statements as "....I guess the homeopaths have been treating deceased persons."

If you had studied the clinical records of homeopathic success recorded over many decades, if you had studied homeopathy itself, if you had actually tried homeopathy yourself you would not be making the volumes of comments you make here that so clearly display your lack of knowledge. In fact, you would know that hundreds of thousands of people are alive today because they used homeopathy. You would know that millions of lives have been saved over the course of 200 years through the use of homeopathy.

Hopefully, you will do a whole lot of homework before you comment on any more of Dana's articles or anywhere else.

Thanks for coming!
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StThomas
Not until I see the holes of the nails....
03:59 PM on 09/24/2011
http://hpathy.com/homeopathy-clinical-cases/acute-cardiovascular-diseases-case-studies/
Christy, none of the patients in these case studies actually _had_ a cardiac arrest. If someone has had a cardiac arrest, then the action of the heart has "arrested" ie stopped. Dr Zamora is treating Ischaemic heart disease of various types, none of which resulted in the heart stopping! ) Unless he's not being completely truthful. Sitting on chest pain and not giving effective treatment for 80mins, as he does with one patient is frighteningly irresponsible.
However I note that Dr Zamora, the homoeopath you link to, sent at least one of his patients to a real doctor.
Can I call everyone's attention to an interesting thing he said about this patient
"This case is to demonstrate that we have to cope with our responsibility as physician and homeopath, and that we have to refer the patient to acute emergency treatment in the hospital if he does not respond to homeopathic treatment, or if the homeopath is unable to manage the case". Your exemplar, by word and deed demonstrates that he does not consider homoeopathy a complete system of medicine. Why should everyone else?
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Dyson
debunking pseudoscience, one fallacy at a time.
05:20 PM on 09/24/2011
Christy, perhaps you should read our comments and the data that you link to more carefully.

Do you understand what a cardiac arrest is?

Clearly not.

Can you point to published, verifiable studies in any mainstream science/medical journal on homeopathy saving these people with cardiac arrest?

No you can't.

End of discussion.
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StThomas
Not until I see the holes of the nails....
03:49 PM on 09/24/2011
I had a look at the link http://hpathy.com/homeopathy-clinical-cases/acute-cardiovascular-diseases-case-studies/ , hoping to find a tale of a homoepath shouting "Come forth!" with wonderful results! Christy cannot tell the difference between a cardiac arrest, and a myocardial infarction or an episode of angina. If these cases studies are true the homoepath was quite irresponsible. Still, it reminds me of all the diabetics she said had been cured by H...
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Dana Ullman
Evidence Based Homeopath
11:19 PM on 09/23/2011
Predictably enough, the "deniers" and the "medical fundamentalists" continue to deny denying and ignore the body of double-blind, placebo controlled clinical trials and basic science studies...as I had reviewed in numerous previous articles at this website. I invite anyone with a real and serious interest in this subject to review this body of evidence. My collection of articles is at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dana-ullman

In particular, I recommend: The Case FOR Homeopathic Medicine: Historical and Scientific Evidence: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dana-ullman/the-case-for-homeopathic_b_451187.html

An article on homeopathy and fibromyalgia: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dana-ullman/fibromyalgia-homeopathy_b_781144.html

An article on homeopathic and respiratory allergies: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dana-ullman/homeopathy-for-allergies_b_320998.html

And more (of course)...
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Dyson
debunking pseudoscience, one fallacy at a time.
07:21 AM on 09/24/2011
Dana, if homeopathy is such a marvellously complete mechanism of healing, could you post some links to science jounals where it has been documented and medically verified that homeopathy has cured a serious condition such as bacterial meningitis, or acute myeloblastic leukemia, or a similar condition which would be universally fatal without the intervention of conventional, curative medical therapy?

You can post links all you want, but when they are merely weak/dismal studies supposedly showing Homeopathy is effective when treating minor self limiting illnesses, no-one is going to take either you or homeopathy seriously.
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Dana Ullman
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10:21 AM on 09/24/2011
Dyson, perhaps your time would be better spent READING rather than commenting. It seems that you spend a LOT of time commenting, and yet, it seems that you have not even read the articles to which I have linked above...all of which provide plenty of references to studies in leading medical journals. It is so typical, even classic, for the "deniers" to say that there is no research (as you have just verified) but you do not even do the simple homework of reading. And yet, you are trying to defend "medical science" with such an anti-scientific attitude...how classic and how sad. In any case, thanx for proving the thesis of my above article.
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Dyson
debunking pseudoscience, one fallacy at a time.
05:22 PM on 09/24/2011
I've looked at the articles Dana has linked to.

Despite his claims, I see no studies showing homeopathy is effective for very serious/otherwise fatal illnesses.

My question to Dana is simple. Can we see some hard evidence please, not just repeated claims by you that you have provided the evidence when plainly you have not?

(PS: Remember your honesty pledge)
04:55 PM on 09/24/2011
Studies proving the effectiveness of prayer healing:
http://1stholistic.com/prayer/hol_prayer_proof.htm
http://www.fountainmagazine.com/article.php?ARTICLEID=207
and of course:
http://www.quickandpowerful.org/2010/05/faith-and-miraculous-healing/

The data and anecdotes read the same as the links you posted claiming the efficacy of homeopathy. OK, I know, "that's silly". Correct, I am guilty as charged. Faith healing does not even pretend to have a medical or scientific basis, thus none is ever offered. But what about crystal healing?

http://healthpsych.psy.vanderbilt.edu/crystal_healing.htm
http://www.indianreikimasters.com/crystahealing.htm
http://kamalkapoor.com/crystals/researchmethod.asp
(I stopped at three, you can easily verify that there are many, many more)

More data, more testimonials, and now science has been added.

If I am to accept the statement "homeopathy works", it would seem that I should also accept that crystal healing works, correct?

If not, why?
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DakkonA
www.DisentangledReality.com
02:38 PM on 09/22/2011
Reading and participating in this thread has shown me the tactics of homeopathy supporters:

If confronted with something they can't answer, they will either
1) Completely ignore it and not respond
2) Completely ignore it and present some unrelated argument, usually about how bad conventional medicine is, how it is a conspiracy, or how many people use homeopathy..
3) Dismiss it out of hand as irrelevant to homeopathy.

A note about anecdotes: There is nothing in itself wrong about a person using a personal experience to inform their personal decisions--even if you don't account for the biases you might be experiencing in interpreting the results. However, such personal experience cannot be a logical basis for convincing anyone else that your experience and your interpretation of it was true and correct.
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cable1977
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance
04:37 PM on 09/22/2011
4) Ignoring it or dismissing it out of hand and subsequently engaging in an ad hominem attack against the commenter.
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DakkonA
www.DisentangledReality.com
05:24 PM on 09/22/2011
An LOL badge from ChristyRed is a badge of honor in my book.
03:51 AM on 09/22/2011
True from the first till the last letter!
Thank you, Dana!
07:26 PM on 09/22/2011
What universe do you exist in?

Myth 1 is a straw-man. There are some studies to support claims that homeopathy is efficacious however, without exception, these studies have at least one (and frequently more than one) methodological flaw that render their conclusions unreliable, which is why they rarely survive replication.

Myth 2 is predicated upon a fallacious appeal to authority. Publication in a reputable journal does not remove the flaws already existing in a study. Moreover, these studies tend to be outdated and superseded by more recent research. That homeopathy advocates continue to cite these same discredited studies even after it is explained to them why the studies are unreliable demonstrates that these people are deluded, incompetent, frauds or a combination of the foregoing.

Myth 3 is not relevant to the core issue of whether or not the claims by homeopaths are supported by reliable evidence. As such it is a strawman and a logical fallacy when used to support claims of homeopathy's efficacy.

Myth 4 is unrefuted . The fact is that it is highly improbable that a single molecule of the mother tincture is present in dilutions beyond Avogadro's number. A study that demonstrated something to the contrary of this basic principle of chemistry and physics would result in, at the very least, a Nobel prize nomination. That no scientists or engineers other than the researchers at the obscure engineering faculty in India and homeopaths consider the findings relevant indicates that the research has the value of night
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ChristyRed
09:14 PM on 09/21/2011
Seems like The Amazing Randi is in the press again! This time, according to the Sun Sentinel, he's immersed in the arrest of his 20-year partner Jose Luis Alvarez for identity theft.

Randi hired attorneys to defend Alvarez and says "Our lawyers have said we are not to comment on our knowledge or lack of knowledge." Wise advice.

As Randi has said of himself, "I always have an out." -- in this case legal advice.

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2011-09-15/fl-jose-alvarez-artist-identity-theft-20110914_1_id-theft-identity-frauds

Might be better for Randi to debunk Alvarez and forget his prejudices against homeopathy (something he knows nothing about and has never tried).
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Dana Ullman
Evidence Based Homeopath
09:28 AM on 09/22/2011
Indeed. James Randi is a magician who is a master of deception...and the strange irony here is that his many followers have been very effectively deceived...and don't get it! Heck, Randi is even a "climate denier", though his followers assert that he is not a scientist and cannot understand these complex technical issues (nor can he adequately understand the complex technical issues involved with medicine!).

My next article here will provide lots more detail about this master of deception.
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ChristyRed
10:00 AM on 09/22/2011
Excellent -- looking forward to reading it!
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Dyson
debunking pseudoscience, one fallacy at a time.
04:12 PM on 09/22/2011
So your next blog item is to be a hatchet job ad hom attack on someone who has exposed homeopathy as the delusion it really is.

That's very nice of you.

PS: Randi is indeed an expert at deception - *uncovering* deception that is.
No wonder you are so antagonistic to him.
03:21 PM on 09/23/2011
The link in your post does not work.
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onionboy
Blessed are the Cheese Makers
06:37 PM on 09/20/2011
Quick question.

Where is all the "Disinformation Campaign" being published?

All I see are pro articles, websites, etc.

There are a few anti websites, but it has to be a 10:1 ratio of for:against.

So, what is the campaign and were is it?