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Why Are There So Few Latino Libertarians?

Posted: 05/29/2012 7:41 am

As everyone knows, the Republican Party is in serious trouble with Latinos. If Mitt Romney gets any less popular with Hispanics, he'll disappear from their consciousness altogether.

The reasons for Latinos' antipathy toward the GOP include the endless insults that Republicans have lobbed at Hispanics, along with the fact that Latinos are not as socially conservative as people think.

Still, one would think more Hispanics would embrace that offshoot of conservative thought known as libertarianism. This philosophy, which holds that the individual is the basic unit of society and must be subject to as little governmental influence as possible, should really resonate with people who have roots in lands where the government crushes all free thought. It should also appeal to people who often have to pull themselves up from their bootstraps (to use a favorite conservative clichƩ) and start over in a new country.

But that hasn't happened. Currently, libertarians "are largely white, well-educated, and affluent." One could even say that "libertarians are mostly rich young white guys who, compared to most other Americans, live comfortable and financially secure lives."

Of course, there are Latino libertarians out there. But in general, talking Hispanics into espousing the Ron Paul agenda is only slightly easier than getting the pope to show up at the Stonewall Inn for a drink.

Libertarianism is still overwhelmingly the privilege of white men, who have a cultural advantage over other groups, regardless of what economic class they were born into. As such, they may believe they have achieved success solely through their own initiative. They may be blind to all the help they received, especially if their consciences are clear and they never discriminate against other ethnicities. They are certain they can do anything they set their minds to, because quite frankly, they often have done so (with society's help, of course).

However, this mindset blinds them to the fact that certain things -- and this is un-American to say -- are beyond their individual control. These can range from sudden health issues to global economic upheavals. They can also include the fact that the game is rigged to benefit the rich and that people's freewill decisions can be manipulated more easily than you think.

Perhaps Latinos, with our cultural baggage of Catholic fatalism and dictatorial governments, are more likely to know that a single person does not have unlimited power. Or maybe our emphasis on family provokes us to think beyond our individual needs. Or perhaps we realize that, despite a work ethic second to none, ceaseless labor and ambition are not always sufficient to get a person ahead in life.

Or maybe it comes down to the possibility that it's very easy to demand a libertarian system when one has gotten a good start in life and reaps the benefits of being on top of the socioeconomic pyramid. It's less common to advocate for that when you're still trying to claw your way upward.

In any case, I'm sure that if she had it to do all over again, Ayn Rand would have included at least one plucky Chicano objectivist named Hernandez in Atlas Shrugged.

Talk about a missed opportunity.

 
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11:53 AM on 07/01/2012
Daniel sounds like the all to common whiner I have encountered while talking about the Libertarian Party. By stating that "Libertarianism is still overwhelmingly the privilege of white men", he makes it very clear to his readers his disdain for "white men". What about confident, thinking for themselves Latino men Daniel? Is there room for these types in the Libertarian movement? Of course! That is what it is all about. Exercising your freedom to be a positive self starter and quit waiting for others to lift you up all the time. Your attitude is exactly the problems that plague native born Latinos in America, It is why I support immigrants coming to our shores, because I know they will work their collective asses off to make it here in America. They do not come here for handouts like many on the hard right like to suggest. No, they work hard, but it is native Chicanos like you who give them a bad name. It is native Chicanos like you who consistently look for a handout that give others like the hard working immigrants a bad name. It might serve you well to read up on what the Cato Institute has to say about immigration. You'd be surprised i think.
10:26 AM on 06/10/2012
The state Chair and state Secretary of the Utah LP are half Hispanic.
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01:35 AM on 06/03/2012
Daniel Cubias: Interesting comment. On the other hand I've noticed that people from most other countries were the first people to support the right-wing of Australian politics. Whether this has changed during the past ten years I don't really know.
Raul Ramos
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02:00 PM on 05/30/2012
Well said, Daniel. Libertarianism is the opiate of the privileged.
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montestruc
War is the health of the state--Randolph Bourne
11:04 PM on 05/30/2012
Pathetic.

Come up with something a little less half baked please.
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08:46 AM on 05/30/2012
Stupid droning book, facil political philosophy. The question should be, "Why are there any Libertarians?"
People who want to do what they want to do and not have to answer for it will go to extraordinary lengths to justify their selfish behavior.
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montestruc
War is the health of the state--Randolph Bourne
10:53 PM on 05/30/2012
Balancing law and society to maximize the freedom of individual citizen, at the cost of also maximizing personal responsibility for everyone is "selfish"??

Me I think that you wanting to tell everyone else how to live is the epitome of selfishness and insensitivity.
05:32 PM on 06/10/2012
Mitt Romney will have to joy the state's people mind by working hard campaign. Either he will not defeat Barack Obama.
When you think about blinds pls think about Out door designer shade company.
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08:34 AM on 06/01/2012
Thanks for proving my point, Monte! ;-)
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montestruc
War is the health of the state--Randolph Bourne
08:09 AM on 05/30/2012
Guess you didn't read Atlas Shrugged at all, cause one of the central characters in the book was a Latino. Second character in the list of major characters.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atlas_Shrugged_characters#section_1
Raul Ramos
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01:57 PM on 05/30/2012
I don't rely on Ayn Rand for a very accurate picture of reality, amigo.
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montestruc
War is the health of the state--Randolph Bourne
11:03 PM on 05/30/2012
Really? Then why mention it at all.

If you think a book is a total waste, why discuss it at all?

If you are going to discuss it, basic simple personal honesty requires that you have an effing clue about what you speak of.

I don't "rely on" Rand's works for my vision of reality, but facts are facts. D'Anconia was one of the major characters of the work he asserted had no Latino characters.

The author is clearly challenged on keeping his facts straight.
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James Peron
05:20 AM on 05/30/2012
Libertarianism is classical liberalism, not an offshoot of conservatism. It was in opposition to conservatism for most of human history and any connection between the two only started after the Russian Revolution, when a more dangerous enemy than conservatism appeared on the scene.

Ron Paul is not the be all and end of libertarianism. He has continually moved farther and farther away from libertarian thought and is thorough-going social conservative. Once he kicks that leg out from underneath the stool of libertarianism is ceases being one. He is a paleoconservative, not a libertarian.
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montestruc
War is the health of the state--Randolph Bourne
11:05 PM on 05/30/2012
F&F
01:57 AM on 05/30/2012
Francisco D'Anconia was a Latino objectivist in Atlas Shrugged
11:43 PM on 05/29/2012
"In any case, I'm sure that if she had it to do all over again, Ayn Rand would have included at least one plucky Chicano objectivist named Hernandez in Atlas Shrugged."

Duh! My favorite Atlas character has always been Francisco D'Anconia. I rather think he qualifies as at least a plucky Latino.

On a more serious note, libertarians do recognize that not everyone is a Francisco. The character I most personally related to was Eddie, Dagny's assistant, a dedicated worker who knew his limits. Anyone may need a leg up sometime in their life. Libertarians just believe that asking the government for help is asking for trouble. Libertarians oppose the coercive power of government. Instead they support the voluntary power of community. But community functions outside the realm of politics.

Politics is only one of the five branches of philosophy. It does not purport to tell you what you should value in life, only that you should pursue those values in a non-coercive way. I think most Latinos instinctively understand this at a cultural level. So I have to ask why are there so few Latino libertarians?
11:27 PM on 05/29/2012
There are multiple avenues for collective activities -- and people have taken them all over the centuries of American history. Organized Labor, Local Governments, Philanthropies, Churches -- all these traditionally cared for less educated/fortunate -- but, unless the Federal Government intervened, they all have had one common feature: as soon as they became corrupt, ineffective or inefficient in the sole opinion of their benefactors, the benefactors could transfer their donation and activities to other organizations (in case of Local Governments, they would have to move to another locality, which is slightly burdening but still relatively easy). This is why any of the above has been infinitely more effective than the Federal Government. With Federal Government, the situation is different: you are not asked whether you want to contribute and you are never heard if you say the government does not spend its loot on the right causes. Any Federal program and bureaucracy is almost immortal, no matter for what cause it was created and whether the cause is still actual. In democracy (which USA became in defiance of its Constitution), the federal government needs support from the majority of the people to grab more and more power -- and that is why it is objectively interested in proliferation of poverty and ignorance and keeping the majority of the population powerless.
11:26 PM on 05/29/2012
It is easy to blame an idea without defining it first. Libertarianism is not about letting everybody struggle on their own -- it is about removing the Federal Government which is always a brute and unkind and almost always corrupt force from all areas where it does not belong (which should be pretty much national defense, foreign affairs and law enforcement in cases that are impossible to enforce by a lower-level government). Essentially, Libertarianism says: if you can do it yourself, do it; else delegate to an authority of the lowest possible level. Only if nothing works for a particular cause (and you are sure that Federal authority will work much better) give this power to Federal Government after eight rounds of thinking (first and utmost, because you are not going to see this power back ever without a bloodbath, even if the next year it becomes self-evident that the Federal Government's having it was the worst idea in the world).
11:09 PM on 05/29/2012
Hoodooman and a few others are obviously knowledgeable about libertarianism, its roots and philosophy but most of the commentators are quite obviously parroting the current inaccuracies that abound among the Democrats.
I have been a libertarian for more years than the Libertarian Party existed, it is now a world wide movement. It saddens me that so many still do not bother to investigate what it really represents. Most libertarian groups are a very diverse mixture of individuals, but who do not care to represent themselves by race, sexual preference or nationality. Further, for the author's information, Ayn Rand did have a Latino character in Atlas Shrugged. He was one of the three primary characters; a man of wealth who deliberately destroyed his wealth on principle.
As far as Austrian Economics not being viable, there is an important understanding that is missing from too many people's evaluation of economics. A market exists with humans interacting whether one allows it, wishes it, or supports the concept. How ethical and rewarding it will be depends on the atmosphere of self ownership and non aggression; this would include the inability of some to engage in state favoritism (mercantilism)as well as direct state tyranny. Libertarians alone have protested both forms of tyranny. If you truly favor collectivism (sorry the word irritates but it is what it is) go ahead. but do a little research before condemning that about which you are ignorant.
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jimfurl179
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09:44 PM on 05/29/2012
No sterotyping going on here. (Smirk, sarcasm).
09:38 PM on 05/29/2012
There is a misperception on libertarianism, starting with the author. Being a libertarian means embracing civil liberties, individual responsibility, self reliance with no or little government intervention in our lives, only in accordance with the U.S.Constitution, which is the document that made America great. If more latinos realize what true libertarianism is, they would be joining our ranks by the millions.
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dtairtime
It is what it is
08:44 PM on 05/29/2012
Libertarianism as a concept is great.

As a reality it doesn't work - at least how it has been explained to me in how they feel. Basically it lets the people take care of problems on their own - such as land use type issues (zoning). Libertarianism would say that it is OK to have that truck stop move into a residential neighborhood. They would say it is the owner of the property who then would bear responsibility to anyone should a negative effect occur. Essentially they would force people to sue to collect if the truck stop lowered property values. So not only do they impose a massive amount of responsibility on people who can never hope to compete with business interests in the courts but they also would spurn a massive growth in the courts - IE the government.

It just can't work in a modern society.
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Chief Johnson2
We, Hispanics, are the future.
08:20 PM on 05/30/2012
There is always first time for everything. And on this I agree with you 100%.