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Explained: What Are Autoimmune Diseases?

Posted: 09/23/11 09:18 AM ET

If anyone asked you what genre of diseases is the second most common cause of chronic illness in the U.S., what would your answer be? Hopefully you'd get the correct answer and say autoimmune disease, but I have a feeling that is very unlikely. It seems that while more and more people are being diagnosed with autoimmune illnesses, there is still a huge lack of understanding and awareness of this plethora of diseases.

What is autoimmune disease? If we break down the word, you can see that it starts with "aut," which comes from the ancient Greek word for "self." I would hope you know that "immune" refers to the body's immune system. So, autoimmune or "self-immune-system" diseases are those in which a patient's immune system is attacking itself. The body's mechanisms can no longer differentiate between foreign bodies and friendly bodies. Normally, the system's white blood cells help protect the body, but the immune response in autoimmune patients destroys normal body tissue and foreign tissue alike. Think of it as friendly fire on a very minute scale.

Your next question might be to ask why the body is attacking itself. The answer is simple: We don't know. There are theories that some bacteria or virii might trigger the autoimmune response in patients who are genetically predisposed, but nothing has been confirmed. The simple fact is that doctors and medical researchers have very few answers as to why the immune system is switched on full-time in autoimmune patients, nor do they have any idea how to switch off the specific mechanism causing the immune system anomaly.

Because drug companies have not been able to target the specific characteristic of the immune system that makes it attack friendly cells, the treatment for autoimmune illness until as of late has been to, in effect, beat down the entire immune system -- good and bad parts alike. It's sort of like using a sledgehammer to put in a thumbtack. Yes, the job will get done, but everything around the thumbtack will be destroyed in the process. Immuno-suppressant medications function in a very similar fashion, shutting off the entire immune system instead of just the broken parts. The patient does obtain relief from the symptoms of the disease but also becomes susceptible to any illness that comes along. Since the immune response is next to nothing, a common cold could mean a hospital trip.

Lately, though, there have been a slew of "bio-drugs," also called disease modifying agents, which target a very specific group of molecules in the body. These molecules are thought to be the cause of autoimmune disease, but there is no way to tell which one of the possible culprits is responsible for the autoimmune disease in the specific patient in question. Discovering this individual molecule type is a matter of trial and error. As of now, the only way to discover which possible molecule is causing a patient's arthritis is to wait and see if a certain bio-drug works for the patient. If the symptoms lessen, then it is assumed that the patient has the specific form of autoimmune disease that the drug is designed for. Talk about circular logic!

Part of the reason that so little is known about autoimmune disease is because until recently, there has not been much media time devoted to any of the illnesses. Within the last few months, though, that has changed. Two cases of autoimmune disease have unfortunately afflicted two very public sports stars. They are suffering from different afflictions, but both are classified as autoimmune diseases.

About a year ago, Phil Mickelson, one of the top professional golfers in the world, was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis. Psoriatic arthritis is a form of arthritis that affects some people who have psoriasis. Psoriasis is a condition which produces red, flaky patches of skin that eventually develop silvery scales. Skin lesions develop early in the disease, but joint pain and swelling can occur before any lesions appear at all. The arthritis can affect any part of the body, including the spine and the fingertips, and can be severe enough to seriously constrict movement -- not a good thing for a pro golfer. There is no cure, as with most autoimmune diseases, and treatment is to control the symptoms only.

Within the last month, another sports star has announced that they have been afflicted with an autoimmune disease. Venus Williams, one of the best tennis players in the world, revealed that she has been diagnosed with Sjogren's Syndrome. Sjogren's mainly affects the moisture glands of the eye and mouth. These glands are attacked by the body's own immune system, and because of this the mucus production is seriously curtailed. Sjogren's can occur in patients without any other autoimmune illness, but it is common for patients who have another autoimmune disease to develop Sjogren's. Besides the glands, other parts of the body can be affected as well. Pain and stiffness in the joints along with mild swelling can occur, as in Venus Williams' case.

To help spread information about autoimmune illnesses and to help protect yourself, it is smart to familiarize yourself with some of the facts of this genre of diseases. For instance, more women than men are affected by autoimmune disease -- the specific amount varies with the actual diagnosis. Many autoimmune diseases present gradually and are usually shrugged off as injury or a passing illness, such as the flu. Joint pain and stiffness are characteristic for a great many autoimmune diseases, and that including fingers, toes, feet, the spine and the collarbones. Fever and general fatigue are also prevalent in most of the autoimmune afflictions. If you suffer from any of these symptoms and they are as-yet-unexplained, it may be time to see a rheumatologist.

As you can see, autoimmune disease is more than just a minor annoyance. Now that two very public, very successful individuals have been diagnosed with autoimmune illnesses, hopefully more information about the entire class of diseases will trickle down to the public at large. Finding a cure begins with money, and to discover the reason the body is attacking itself we need as much exposure as possible. I, myself, have rheumatoid arthritis, so this is a subject that is close to my heart. Many of us have renewed hope that a cure or better treatments will be found now that autoimmune illness is in the media's crosshairs, at least for the time being. If you want more information you can check out CreakyJoints.org, OnCourseWithPhil.com, ArthritisFoundation.org and Sjogrens.org.

 

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If anyone asked you what genre of diseases is the second most common cause of chronic illness in the U.S., what would your answer be? Hopefully you'd get the correct answer and say autoimmune disease,...
If anyone asked you what genre of diseases is the second most common cause of chronic illness in the U.S., what would your answer be? Hopefully you'd get the correct answer and say autoimmune disease,...
 
 
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07:18 PM on 09/27/2011
I really enjoy all the comments below that state reasons as to why people develop autoimmune disease.
Vaccines - in this case I believe that women and men would be about the same in the number of cases.
Exercise/Diet - Shouldn't every unhealthy person have an autoimmune disease?
Low vit D - Every person that works in an office all day, will have an autoimmune disease.

That's just aside from all the very intelligent, well researched counterpoints that have been presented already.

With that being said, wouldn't doctors and researchers have figured this out already too, and would be able to provide us with reasons, and treatments by reversing what caused it. Sorry, but it just doesn't work that way. More than half the time, researchers etc don't even know what the autoimmune disease is doing, we have symptoms but the biology of it is a mystery. Every case of every autoimmune disease is different, how it starts, progress, etc.
GOODDOC1
"civil war" is an oxymoron
06:38 PM on 09/28/2011
Excellent!
12:52 PM on 09/26/2011
I read on a support forum that it takes an average of 10 years to get a correct diagnosis of autoimmune disease. I know it took that long for me.

Advice from someone who's been there: if you're getting the runaround from doctors who keep blowing you off, calling you a hypochondriac, or whatever, demand a sed rate test. The sed rate is not specific - it can be elevated for many reasons, from autoimmune disease, bacterial infection, or cancer. But it WILL prove that there is something really wrong and it's not all in your head, it's quick, and it's inexpensive. Once your doctor is taking you seriously, it's much easier to go forward together
GOODDOC1
"civil war" is an oxymoron
06:24 PM on 09/26/2011
A sed rate is a good test. Know how they used to diagnose MS, before we had MRIs, etc.? They called it the Hot Bath Test. Because heat can exacerbate the symptoms of MS, they put the patient in a bath as hot as they coud tolerate. If that caused or exacerbated the symptoms, the patient was diagnosed with MS. If not, they were diagnosed with hysteria, which I find interesting because MS is more common in women, and the root word "hys" comes from the Latin word for Uterus. (That might be Greek -- I can't remember right now.) Think HYSterectomy.
12:11 PM on 09/26/2011
Well, i am about to blow all of your theories because I did not get vaccines because my parents did not believe in them and I have systemic lupus, fibromyalgia,CFS and sarcoidosis. I live right and eat healthy. I do not drink, have never smoked, and eat mostly vegetables, fruits, and chicken or turkey (no pork ever) and only 100% whole wheat when I eat breads which is not all that often. My sister has lupus and now three cousins have MS and now my 14 year old daughter has been diagnosed with lupus so something is going on genetically I don't care what you all say and none of us live near each other or have the same upbringing other than my sister and I. Call it what you may but it is something more than just gluten and please explain why it only seems to hit the women in my family. If it is from vaccines, did they hold back the mercury from the boys or what? Amazing that my four sons do not have this horrible disease. Please someone explain that to me since you all seem to have all the answers and my doctors nor my families doctors can't seem to figure it out.
01:08 PM on 09/26/2011
@gammamcd: Just for added info: Yeah, lupus here, sjogrens, etc. and all that comes with it. Ditto, believe genetic. Mother died, complications of lupus. Father died of ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease). Don't know if latter could be somehow related. I don't live as healthily as you do. But my father did. Had all vaccinations.
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03:30 PM on 09/26/2011
I have Fibromyalgia, CFS, My sister has FM and so does my daughter. A niece with MS. It's in the genes I think.
GOODDOC1
"civil war" is an oxymoron
06:16 PM on 09/26/2011
I don't know about Fibromyalgia or CFS, but there is a genetic component in some peope with MS. I have MS (among other things that are not autoimmune), and have done a lot of research on the subject. It is more common in people with a certain HLA antigen, which is something that can be found in DNA testing.
08:34 AM on 09/26/2011
Hi, Ive heard that a possible treatment is to demand more from the digestion -ie occupy it, challenge it, make it work, give it something really vital and foreign to destroy- this by increasing the raw, fresh component in the diet (organic/biodynamic best).- then the overindulged constitution is not so likely to go around throwing stones and making internal enemies if it's struggling and working at digestion-
The choice of fresh foods(fruit/blossom/leaf/root) is dependent upon the underlying physiological condition-(see Hauschka)
I must say it seems to work for me - ? Would welcome any other experience/comments?
01:09 PM on 09/26/2011
Mark, I have been battling an autoimmune condition that has changed over the years. It started with pain in the achilles heal(s) and I originally thought I had somehow sprained my ankle. Some months later I started passing blood and was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis. Some months after that I started having rashes (psoriasis). As time went on other joints became involved. The arthritis was initially diagnosed as gout which I disagreed to because my uric acid level was normal. My diagnosis has since migrated to rheumatoid arthritis, then colitic arthritis, then psoriatic arthritis. My rheumatologist is now looking into ankylosing spondylitis based on my personal research, confirmed maladies, and health history. I guess my concern with demanding more from the digestion is, when you have ulcerative colitis or maybe even crohn's disease sometimes extra fiber or certain foods can throw your immune system into an attack.
07:24 AM on 09/27/2011
Maybe I would begin with blossoms- fresh marigold petals on a salad - or fresh chamomile flowers in a tea. Later I would work towards the leafy element - fresh of course- but modestly and gradually.
Ive also heard some people have success with colostrum supplements.??
06:55 PM on 09/27/2011
I don't think diet is a cure-all, but definitely a huge factor.
I know when I eat healthier I seem to feel a little better, but who doesn't feel better from eating better?

I also know people with autoimmune diseases should stay away from things that boost the immune system, say vit C, echinacea, etc.
tccat4
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07:57 AM on 09/26/2011
I was diagnosed with R/A a year ago April, Even with medication, some days I feel like a bus hit my body, my joints dont want to cooperate with the rest of my body. Im taking medication, and have a top notch R/A MD. and Nurse. My grandmother on my fathers side had R/A. But at my age I was surprised when I was diagnosed. I have always been healthy and active, I guess the best thing for anyone to do, is educate yourself, find everything you can to read. Like many other diseases, your Dr. can treat you better, when given the facts by you. Maybe one day they will call and tell me there is a cure. All I can do is HOPE..!!!
07:24 AM on 09/26/2011
Gulf War "syndrome" is an autoimmune illness. The probable causes are limited and the population is well described. This will be the one that allows us (if we pay attention) to figure out the mechanisms of autoimmunity for the rest of the population. There is a lot of push back on this because it was caused by man made substances (drugs and pesticides). We can actually fix this problem.

Jim Moss
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Florida

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06:06 PM on 09/25/2011
I was diagnosed with Alopicia in my early 40's....My Dad was diagnosed with Discoid Lupus...which affects the skin, and not the organs...I have to beleive it is hereditary...In addition, it has been found that people who have had asthma, or may still have it, are at a higher risk for autoimmune Diseases....
Many are fairly popular-known by most-MS is an autoimmune Disease, for instance...Also, it is also thought that this type of chronic disease can be triggered by stress...Educate yourself and your family!!!!!!
10:48 PM on 09/23/2011
Squalene listed at too dangerous for human use by National Library of Medicine.

http://www.novaccine.com/vaccine-ingredients/results.asp?sc=27
09:43 PM on 09/23/2011
i am a big believer in Miracle Mineral Solution [see jim humble] for ridding the body of bad bacteria,fungus,pathogens and most parasites [with parasites use clay and mms] ...mms is not main stream [yet] ..but in the ''3rd'' world it is becoming abundant ...using it to fight aids virus,malaria,cancer,arthritus,etc ... check it out ..it works ..along with optimum nutrition
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08:47 PM on 09/24/2011
I used MMS for quite awhile, but it did not rid me of my persistent herpes, and I've finally resorted to anti-viral Rx. I love the Humble stories, but the MMS didn't prove effective for me, and I was so unable to eat due to the taste of the drops, that I lost way too much weight. I'm living with autoimmune problems, ME/CFS, and by and large cannot tolerate pharmaceuticals. I hope MMS works better for others, I find the malaria stories very inspiring.
06:07 PM on 09/25/2011
I do beleive you are dreaming.....
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06:11 PM on 09/23/2011
I would add one clarification. It's not completely accurate to say that the immune is switched on "full-time" in auto-immune disease. That implies that it is constantly attacking all of the tissues of the body in these disorders. That's generally not the case. Auto-immune disorders will generally target specific classes of tissue (eg, connective, etc.) or types of cells. Actually, technically speaking, our immune system is switched on full-time all of the time, just not against all tissues. The elegance of it is in its ability to know what to shoot at. That's what gets screwed up in these disorders.

The body is not actively trying to target itself. For instance, it may have been targeting a small area of Protein A that is found on some pathogen...like a bacteria. It may actually have antibodies to several areas of that protein, most of which don't affect us at all. But one corner of Protein A just happens to be similar to another corner of Protein B, which is found naturally in our connective tissue. It doesn't have to be exact, just similar enough to allow significant antibody binding. Next thing you know, the antibodies are inadvertently attacking our connective tissue. An obviously, this would vary from person to person, based on the exact make up of their Protein B; and would vary according to what pathogen was trying to be fought off.

Nicely done lay article.
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maveet
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08:51 PM on 09/24/2011
Thank you onionboy. I have just been trying to understand the mechanism by which my connective tissue is attacked in my ME/CFS condition, and this is useful information. Do you have your own site? you probably would have linked if so. Anyway, thx, already your friend.
06:08 PM on 09/25/2011
Great response.....
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12:07 PM on 09/23/2011
Daniel,
Thank you for another great article. I appreciate that you explained what auto-immune disease means and with all due respect to the other commenters - this article is geared to explaining what is happening in the bodies of many millions of people, myself included. I have Ankylosing Spondylitis and auto-immune disease that primarily affects the spine leading to possible complete fusion. I also have psoriasis and uevitis(which attacks the eyes.) For people like myself, my immediate goal has been to get better, to get my life back from the years of unexplained pain and fatigue. I have been one of the "lucky ones" you describe above, where my Rheumatologist and I found a biologic drug that works for me. I lead a healthy life, I don't eat meat, I don't eat gluten - the trigger was set off in my body years ago and I don't believe that I can do anything with exercise or diet that can reverse the fact that it happened. I'd like to ask Lindsay if she believes that once cancer has started that you can simply turn it off with your diet? The level of misunderstanding of auto-immune disease is staggering. Thank you again Daniel for all of the education you do with your articles.
Jennifer Visscher
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12:46 PM on 09/23/2011
There are many things that can be done naturally to starve a developing cancer of the fuel that's making it grow, yes, because cancer is accelerated and uncontrolled cell growth often coming from poor diet and lack of exercise, and when it becomes severe enough to require treatment with drugs, then by all means, bust out the big guns. "A healthy immune system recognizes, identifies, remembers, attacks, and destroys bacteria, viruses, fungi, parasites, and cancer cells or any health-damaging agents not normally present in the body." http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-017.shtml

My point is that people in our society have been taught to wait to treat a problem that's full blown rather than living a healthy and more natural, and therefore PREVENTATIVE, lifestyle. The people that are perpetuating this "disease management" way of life are often those that profit from it, and that comes at the expense of the well being of the population. It's similar behavior that resulted in our current economic crisis, housing crisis, and global standing-- let's wait for as long as possible to react to a problem rather than invest in methods that will work to keep EVERYONE healthy and happy.
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cable1977
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03:12 PM on 09/23/2011
"There are many things that can be done naturally to starve a developing cancer of the fuel that's making it grow, yes,"

You have evidence to support this claim? Or is it similar to your vaccine claims and full of misinformation?

"because cancer is accelerate­d and uncontroll­ed cell growth often coming from poor diet and lack of exercise"

Of course you have evidence that cancer is caused by a lack of exercise, right?

"The people that are perpetuati­ng this "disease management­" way of life are often those that profit from it,"

And then you provide, as evidence of your claims, a link to a website that makes its money off "preventative" care, regardless of whether there is evidence to support that preventative care or not. Dietary supplements do not need to be tested for safety or efficacy prior to their use in people. Why would you support any industry that sells products that are not tested for either safety nor efficacy prior to sale to people for use?
06:08 PM on 09/25/2011
Another dreamer...
11:07 AM on 09/23/2011
Let's form an experiment for the average American, and leave out pre-existing LEGITIMATE genetic factors... and yes, even professional athletes can be included in this scenario:

-poor diet consisting of processed foods and drowning in high fructose corn syrup and excessive gluten, in effect clogging up the body and keeping it from being able to work properly
-lack of proper exercise to rid the body of toxins it doesn't need
-vaccines consisting of mercury, anti-freeze, cow's blood, formaldehyde, and MUCH more (check the CDC website for ingredients-- they must publish that info BY LAW)
-ignoring the health of the spine, which influences and protects the spinal cord, which is how information is sent from our brains to our nervous system, and by extension, tells every limb, structure, and organ in our body how to function
-taking drugs to fix a problem that was most likely influenced by drugs in the first place
-incorrect diagnosis from medical doctors, who, contrary to popular belief, are not modern deities, and are often funded by drug companies in the first place and regulated by insurance companies in the second place, both of which are profit driven, meaning their recommendations are biased to serve the needs of those companies and NOT always to the betterment of their patients
-excessive and hasty media attention, generating more confusion around an already murky topic

Yeah, I can't understand how autoimmune diseases come about AT ALL.
*enormous sarcastic eye roll*
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12:15 PM on 09/23/2011
You go girl! No. 5 - and I don't me Chanel!
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cable1977
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance
12:22 PM on 09/23/2011
"vaccines consisting of mercury, anti-freez­e, cow's blood, formaldehy­de"

Why must you lie? I'm sure you have been informed before how incorrect this sort of comment is, so why continue to repeat the same misinformation?

No vaccine contains anti-freeze. Anti-freeze is ethylene glycol. Some vaccines contain polyethylene glycol, but that isn't the same as ethylene glycol, now is it? See, to anyone who understands basic chemistry, when you change the name of a chemical, you also change it's chemical formula and, therefore, its chemical properties. Perhaps you should consider repeating Chemistry 101 since you obviously failed it.

If you are concerned about formaldehyde in vaccines, then you must be very anxious to know that your body produces more than 10x the amount contained in a vaccine every day. Let me repeat that so it soaks in. Your body (let's estimate 60kg) currently has approximately 1.275 mg of formaldehyde floating around in it which is more than what would be found in 100 vaccinations. Your body produces formaldehyde as part of normal metabolic processes of producing amino acids and DNA and is more than capable of handling the miniscule amounts found within a vaccine.

"Yeah, I can't understand how autoimmune diseases come about AT ALL."

I don't think the sarcasm was needed. Given your gross misrepresentation of facts, it appears that you can't understand much related to biology.
01:15 PM on 09/23/2011
I am not lying, as the ingredient lists are published by the Center for Disease Control. Several vaccines have warnings listed on their packaging about their mercury content and harmful side effects, much like the Surgeon General warnings on cigarettes.

I would appreciate it if you could reply without as much anger directed towards me and insulting me, and if you continue this conversation with these tones, I will continue to flag your comments as abusive. Be constructive in your criticism, and it will be heard.
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10:32 AM on 09/26/2011
Cable, I read your reply to Lindsay and not sure why she feels you derected anger towards her. Was it not her that got on this thread and spouted half truths? If you want to get on these theads and be sarcastic and tell half truths then you better be able to take the heat. That is why this world is so divided, they hear and read what they want to and then go off spouting half truths. You are correct she needs to get her facts straight before writing information that is incorrect.
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10:34 AM on 09/23/2011
I don't know if celiac disease is considered an auto immune disease, but I do know one thing from having it. You are what you eat. Eliminate the source of irritation (gluten) and the symptoms disappear. Drugs are not the answer, and some may be cause. We rely on man made compounds way too much because the industry is there to sell them to us, not make us better. A thorough analysis of diet should be the first thing a doctor does, yet I've never had any question diet at all, with a prescription pad at the ready to suppress the reaction. This is not medicine.
01:18 PM on 09/23/2011
Celiac is autoimmune, you're absolutely correct. Gluten forces the body to attack itself in an attempt to react to wheat's natural defense mechanism when consumed, which is to shred the lining of digestive organs, in effect re-circulating junk back into the bloodstream. The body has to work overtime to process everything again AND try to repair the damage, resulting in dis-ease.
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05:24 PM on 09/23/2011
Gluten is not "wheat's defense against being eaten." The disease results from the immune system reacting to gluten which has been processed by digestive enzymes, and the antibodies recognizing it also recognize proteins in the small intestine.
08:23 PM on 09/23/2011
You are, once again, objectively incorrect. Celiac comes when the immune system recognizes gluten as a foreign protein (i.e a pathogen as far as the body is concerned) and its response also inadvertently harms cells of the villi in the intestine.
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10:34 AM on 09/23/2011
One of the key factors in autoimmune illness is low vitamin D levels. D3, the hormone form of D, that the body makes from exposure to sunlight, is not only responsible for managing calcium deposition in bones, but is really the director of the immune response, and differentiating "self from other." Another big factor is the prevelance of a spectrum of gluten sensitivity. Once thought rare, like 1 in 10,000, now there is much written about it's about 1 in 3. When our civilization started making grains a big part of our diet, the problems began. Hybridizing grains and GMO influences have made them, especially wheat higher in protein. Gliadin, the protein in Wheat, although there are glutens in other grains....just not as high and just not gliadin, can irritate the gut wall, and once irritated the immune system attacks zonulin which holds the cellular junctures together very tightly. Once opened up, larger dalton particles can slip through, and get the GALT, or gastric associated lymph tissue to start issuing immune complexes, to fight the "foreign" proteins that slipped through. Soon you have allergies to lots of stuff, and an irritated gut wall, eventually leading to hosts of other problems including depression, Hashimoto's Hypothyroiditis, and on and on. Read up on this...it's what we're eating.
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11:09 AM on 09/23/2011
I have CFS and I've recently cut out gluten. I'm feeling much better. Taking vitamin D3 now too along with a high EPA DHA cod liver oil by nordic naturals.
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onionboy
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06:19 PM on 09/23/2011
What would be a possible mechanism for Vitamin D to influence whether our immune system starts targeting self-antigens?

And your example did not explain how gluten causes the body's immune system to start specifically targeting the gut itself, rather than just the gut contents. An autoimmune disease is a direct immunological response to our own tissues. If it only attacks guy contents, that may cause problems, but it's not autoimmune.
10:16 AM on 09/23/2011
Almost all auto immune diseases are the results of vaccines given in childhood. These toxins play havoc with a developing immune system. Many leave foreign and GMO proteins (rDNA) from virus in the body so of course the body begins attacking itself in a bid to rid itself of these things. Also, the adjvents added to vaccines also destroy normal immune response. Squalene, mercury, aluminum, and formaldehyde all play a part. This isn't rocket science, but the pharma companies want you to think this is some great mystery. It isn't.
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05:26 PM on 09/23/2011
I don't think you have a single correct statement in there.
Josephius
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06:16 PM on 09/23/2011
Congratulations! You've scored 0 points so far.

Seriously, where did you come up with is nonsense?