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Danielle Crittenden

Danielle Crittenden

Posted: March 26, 2010 12:48 PM

Put Down Your Pitchforks, People

What's Your Reaction:

As the old saying goes, if you want a friend in Washington, get a dog. Perhaps that's why the Frum household now has three.

I've been married to David Frum for nearly 22 years -- or just under half my lifetime -- and have lived through numerous controversies that have resulted from his speaking out for the ideas he believes in, regardless of the personal consequences to himself. Right after we met, when he was a budding journalist in Toronto, I watched him challenge Canada's then-ruling Liberal establishment on the issue of Free Trade. It was a huge and hysterical issue back then -- as big as health care is here today -- but at that time the hysteria was entirely on the left. Nerdy girl that I was (and am), my head was quite turned by this young man who quite literally waded into throngs of hostile crowds and patiently debated with them as to why the North American Free Trade Act would be good for Canada. And at the end of these debates, even those who remained unpersuaded (and of course there were many), expressed grudging respect for David's willingness to engage them in a discussion, and not a shout fest.

So fast forward to this week, when conservative hell erupted over David's now infamous "Waterloo" column on the GOP health care defeat. For days I've been sitting here in the bunker beside him (and our three dogs), watching the whizzbangs land all around. What is distressing is not the predictable hate mail he has been receiving -- and thanks to the internet, he's been receiving it in hundredfold; we've both seen that before. What is distressing (to me, anyway) are the dishonest slurs on his character and integrity by people who know him, and in some cases have known him for many years -- truly ugly suggestions that David is motivated by cynicism or sycophancy, or both. (If he were, maybe he'd still be employed...)

We have both been part of the conservative movement for, as mentioned, the better part of half of our lives. And I can categorically state I've never seen such a hostile environment towards free thought and debate -- once the hallmarks of Reaganism, the politics with which we grew up -- prevail in our movement as it does today. The thuggish demagoguery of the Limbaughs and Becks is a trait we once derided in the old socialist Left. Well boys, take a look in the mirror. It is us now.

David of course doesn't need my defense -- and a defense coming from his wife probably isn't worth much (although I can categorically state this has been posted without his authorization, approval or even, um, knowledge -- he's flying somewhere over the country right now). My role right now is to pass him the flask in the trench.

But to return to Washington and dogs: Along with the bile, there has been an equally considerable outpouring of support and defense, from friends and foes alike, who -- whether they agree with David or not -- are horrified by the guillotine that is being set up in the public square of democratic debate. They understand that nothing good can come of this, for anyone of any political stripe.

For this support, we are both very grateful. And while I wouldn't have thought it possible to admire David more than I do, I have to say he is still turning this old girl's head.


 
 
 

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eyecon
Retired CEO & Quality-Mgmt Consultant
03:55 PM on 04/18/2010
I don't mind conservatives - not at all. What drives me crazy is the dearth of HONEST debate. People who know better are deliberately misinforming and incurious constituency. What the misinformed don't get is that Fox is insulting their intelligence. Cantor and McConnell are manipulating them for personal gain.

If the tea baggers ever figure this out they will be point all of those guns at Beck and Limbaugh.
08:21 PM on 03/30/2010
It just keeps getting funnier. Crittenden's stepfather has written his own defence of Frum:

http://www.torontosun.com/news/columnists/peter_worthington/2010/03/27/13378596.html
ydrittmann
Vitter patronizes women.
12:45 AM on 03/31/2010
Did you see the Sunshine Girl? Don't know whether to laugh or cry. Is that a Newscorp property?
09:31 AM on 03/31/2010
No, it is owned by Quebecor. The Sun was a newspaper born out of the demise of the conservative Toronto Telegram in 1971. It has always had a Sunshine girl. The first editor was Peter Worthington who is Crittenden's stepfather. The second editor was Barbara Amiel, devastatingly glamourous ,and now married to jailed media mogul Conrad Black. There is an article about Black's Palm Beach mansion here in the Media section.
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OliverTwist
Contrarian advocate for truth and justice
12:26 PM on 03/30/2010
Good wishes from way far out on the left. Wish you'd change your politics but even if you don't I love your references to being in the trenches in "The Great War". Wizzbangs indeed!
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02:24 PM on 03/29/2010
Stop playing the Girondist. Conservatives cannot turn the Mountain loose to purge the party and then be dumbfounded by the "sudden" lack of civility. You guys love the founders so much...remember what Washington said about permanent alliances? You didn't cut that fundy cancer out soon enough and now it has consumed the party.
10:33 AM on 04/18/2010
Exactly. They invited the most radical elements of conservatism into the "big tent" and now those elements control the party. Good luck to any remaining moderates who try to reason with these people, because they're too busy purging the party down to a handful to listen.
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Archivist1000
Informed World Citizen
12:13 PM on 03/29/2010
Ms Crittenden says: ""And I can categorically state I've never seen such a hostile environment towards free thought and debate -- once the hallmarks of Reaganism, the politics with which we grew up -- prevail in our movement as it does today""

With an open jaw, I say: REALLY? Obviously, Ms Crittenden was busy not paying attention during the Bush/Cheney years!

A hostile environment towards free thought and debate? She must be joking! Or is that 'satire' (wink wink)

That comment alone should give the reader pause and ask: While your head was turned, what were you watching? Those of us whose eyes and hears were firmly focused in the 'here and now' during the previous Administration saw very little OTHER than a hostile environment towards free thought and debate.

The 'demagogary of Limbaugh' and Beck and Hannity was NOT demagogary when it was/is directed away from YOU???? It was WELCOMED when, as David said, the Conservative party thought FOX worked FOR the Conservative party ....

That 'guillotine that is being set up in the public square of democratic debate." horrifies you? You are just noticing it when you are facing it?? Sorry to burst your bubble, here, but .... it's been there awhile, set up during the Bush years .... I can't imagine how far one's head must be 'turned' to have missed that!
05:04 PM on 03/29/2010
Thanks for your insightful commentary on this laughable defense. Not so funny when it's your ox being gored, is it Ms.Crittenden?
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LoyalOpposition
11:01 PM on 03/29/2010
Archivist1000, you expressed my thoughts exactly on this article. Thanks.
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fabucat
11:31 AM on 03/29/2010
I really enjoyed your opinion piece. I wrote Mr. Frum to commend him on his remarks about the new health insurance reform law. I didn't agree with most of what he said, but what he stated was very thought-provoking and intelligent. I agree with Frum that all of this name-calling makes everyone stupid.

People in this forum shouldn't trash Frum and Crittenden for their conservative views. I've encountered tons of diehard right-wing extremists on this site who just want to troll. I don't think that it's wise to troll some decent, polite conservatives.

Sure, it's true that there are a lot of hard feelings against Frum for his participation in the lead-up to Iraq. Even then, however, Frum was an outsider at the White House. For example I recall Frum saying that he didn't feel comfortable as a Jewish person in a bevy of evangelist Christians, when the main clique met for Christian prayer. I think that Frum and my fellow liberals would STILL disagree about foreign policy.

I'm just thrilled to meet some folks on the right who can discuss things in a rational manner, rather than Tea Partiers who express bigotry and hate.
ydrittmann
Vitter patronizes women.
12:47 AM on 03/31/2010
Why did Frum want to join a club that wouldn't have him as a member? They used him and now they're through.
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Archivist1000
Informed World Citizen
11:21 AM on 03/29/2010
At least 10 of my comments on this story have NOT APPEARED. (wonder if this one will?)

Who is moderating this thread? There is a rich irony here; a thread about being 'punished' for telling the truth doesn't allow some of my comments because ......... well, I don't know why! None were rude or abusive or contained 'banned words' . This has never happened to me on Huffpost before now!
11:13 AM on 03/29/2010
"...So fast forward to this week..."

Lol, boy she sure yada yada yada'd through a lot. "so after some war and death yada yada yada financial meltdown blah blah blah... let's get back to us..."
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Archivist1000
Informed World Citizen
08:55 AM on 03/29/2010
Danielle, with all due respect .... I am pretty sure that you are too young to remember Reagan and his 'times' .. what you know about it, is what you have been told.

I say this because you would have been barely out of your teen, living in another country at the time he was President.

The myth of Reagan grows daily; his name is dropped by people like Sarah Palin -- who we know didn't pay attention to current events as an adult, and certainly not as a teenager! --- so I suspect that you have a rosy, revionist view of the Reagan years.
10:39 AM on 03/29/2010
Frum and Crittenden's formative years were spent in Canada with a Liberal government in power. For conservatives, the opposition to Trudeau and his legacy was such that they looked to Reagan as a beacon. As Canadians, they could afford such nostalgic sentiments by not having to live with the consequences, but they carried it further by moving to the US where they could find an audience. Many hated Trudeau because he was seen as arrogant, elitist and an intellectual. He made multiculturalism an official policy--foreigners could come to Canada and retain their customs and traditions. He said that the State had no place in the bedrooms of the nation. His policies interfered with business. He was a Nationalist. Conservatives are against such things because they reject the idea that people can be improved through government policy. Hence, the attraction to Reagan's America by people such as the Frums
02:24 AM on 03/29/2010
More rewriting of history by republicans, claiming "free thought" and "debate" were the "hallmarks" of Reagan. No they weren't: Reagan traded arms for hostages, engaged in "secret" warfare in Central America, viciously attacked unions, assaulted public education, deregulated S&Ls resulting in the Keating scandal, and packed the Supreme Court with a few primo fascists.

Where's the free thinking? Where's the debate?
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Archivist1000
Informed World Citizen
09:08 AM on 03/29/2010
Remeber the 'ketchup is a vegetable' argument?
11:10 PM on 03/28/2010
While that's all very sweet and supportive, it doesn't change the fact that your husband's prior behavior is part of the problem we're facing now. The bellicose warchanting has hurt us on every level. The deregulation, the unfunded tax cuts for the wealthy, the "alliance" with Israel--also disastrous. D. Frum had a rational week and paid the price for straying from the ideology. There is an opportunity here for him to wake from his ideological stupor completely, but I'm not holding my breath.
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AGammaRaye
Awake!! Independent.
10:27 PM on 03/28/2010
Bravo men like your husband still exist !!
I'd consider being personas non grata a badge of honor
given the toxic political pool in DC at the moment.
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sakredkow
10:10 PM on 03/28/2010
The battle isn't really between conservative and liberal, Democrat and Republican. It's between people who want a civilized debate and others who won't respect anyone else. Very sad, very destructive. People of all political persuasions need to think which side they really want to be on.
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BigHound1
Above all, seek wisdom and understanding
10:22 PM on 03/28/2010
Agreed.

We all need our country back where people are able to deal with issues in a civil manner. As you mentioned, this is not a conservative or liberal issue. It is about respect for one another where we can agree to disagree.
09:58 PM on 03/28/2010
DANIELLE,
THIS ISN'T ABOUT RIGHT OR LEFT. IT IS ABOUT RIGHT AND WRONG. I'M NOT SPEAKING ABOUT THE HEALTH CARE OR WALL STREET. I AM UPSET ABOUT THE PATRIOT ACT BEING RENEWED WITHOUT ANY PUBLIC INPUT. OR BEING PROMISED THE MILITARY COMMISSIONS ACT BEING REPEALED. AND IT NEVER HAPPENED. WITHOUT OUR LIBERTY? WHAT DOES OUR COUNTRY REALLY STAND FOR?
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momcat4obama
10:36 PM on 03/28/2010
first - take your caps lock off, otherwise you are yelling. :-)

and second - by saying this "is about right and wrong" makes it impossible to discuss anything rationally with someone with a different view point. I may disagree vehemently with someone, but if I tell them they are wrong, bam - discussion over.

just my opinion - neither right nor wrong.....in my opinion....
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Joe Viglione
09:57 PM on 03/28/2010
If the Piranha Republicans turn on their own for telling the truth, which the Boehner/McCain/Palin crew have done to David Frum, just do the simple math. There is no way they will work with any Democratic president/congress - especially since President Obama was elected with no controversy over his election. Isn't it interesting that scandal and Diebold followed both Bush elections, but the Republicans simply ignored it. Showing none of the grace and decorum of Al Gore and John Kerry, the Republican loser, John McCain, is bitter and lashing out. Thank God McCain wasn't able to steal the election. Frum may decide to stay with the party that has ostracized him, the Republicans, due to his many friendships there, but his honesty is most refreshing.