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America's 30 Pieces of Silver

Posted: 11/26/11 10:22 AM ET

Few in Washington may realize that the issue of U.S. funding for Palestine is the talk of the town in Ramallah and other Palestinian cities. And the talk is not pleasant.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has been telling aides that he plans to reject some $150 million in federal money earmarked for Palestinian security.

Abbas's opposition is principled. The funds are part of an $800 million grant from the U.S. Agency for International Development that
Congress appropriated in June 2009
. Shortly before the funds were disbursed this summer, however, the larger grant was held up by Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen. A Republican from Florida, Ros-Lehtinen, now chairman of the House Foreign Relations Committee, placed an
informational hold on this budgetary line item in August. It is her prerogative to do so as a member of Congress. But rather than delay the funds to investigate a concern, the hold was meant as punishment -- a warning to the Palestinian Authority not to seek recognition as an
independent state at the United Nations General Assembly meeting the following month.

Abbas, of course, made the Palestinians' application for statehood in September. And Palestinians note that when President Obama addressed the U.N. General Assembly in September 2010, he said he hoped that "when we come back here next year, we can have an agreement that will lead to a new member of the United Nations -- an independent, sovereign state of Palestine, living in peace with Israel." To Palestinians, their efforts for recognition fall within the Wilsonian doctrine of self-determination. But others don't see it that way.

Ros-Lehtinen's hold put a freeze on many education, health and democratic governance projects aimed at defusing tensions in the Middle East and building transparent Palestinian public institutions. In addition to funds for security services that were to be spent directly by the Palestinian Authority, which Abbas controls, the USAID grant included money for the U.S. consulate to use to support democratic initiatives. Intermediary organizations that were to oversee this spending included such U.S. groups as Sesame Workshop, World Vision, Internews, Save the Children and Amideast. Friends of the Earth, an Israeli-Palestinian-Jordanian organization, also was to participate.

After U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak intervened last month, $200 million for the Palestinian Authority was unfrozen. Fifty million of those funds was to go toward ongoing projects, and $150 million was pegged for Palestinian security services. All other funding remains on hold, including $4.6 million that was intended for use by the U.S. consulate in Jerusalem under the Middle East Partnership Initiative. Established during the George W. Bush administration, MEPI was initially administered by Liz Cheney with the goal of empowering democratic initiatives in the Middle East. As the Arab Spring continues to drive change throughout the region, Palestinian leaders are feeling its effect. The millions earmarked for Palestinian security have become a hot potato.

Criticism of the Abbas administration has appeared in social media platforms and newspaper editorials. Palestinian Authority leaders have been accused of being security agents for Israel. Palestinian-Israeli security cooperation has become taboo in Ramallah. Meanwhile, even though Palestinians have provided unprecedented cooperation on security, Israeli provocations continue. The Israelis have not stopped building settlements or expropriating Palestinian lands.

It would be a political misstep to accept funds earmarked for security services while schools and nurseries are not completed. Palestinians would see the aid as analogous to the 30 pieces of silver that were accepted by Judas Iscariot when he delivered Jesus -- a position Abbas does not want to be in.

Beyond the trouble caused by this hold, Congress is doing little to move other budget issues forward. Not only have U.S. lawmakers been holding up approved and obligated funds for Palestinians, but the 2012 budget also has not yet been discussed. Congress is making it difficult for the White House, the State Department and the Defense Department to conduct foreign policy.

The intricacies of foreign policy are usually unknown to the average American. But it doesn't take much to understand that aligning with one side in the Middle East peace process not only erodes the United States' diplomatic leverage but also plants the seeds of doom for the United States in a sensitive region.

This article first appeared in the Washington Post.

 

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Few in Washington may realize that the issue of U.S. funding for Palestine is the talk of the town in Ramallah and other Palestinian cities. And the talk is not pleasant. Palestinian President Mahmou...
Few in Washington may realize that the issue of U.S. funding for Palestine is the talk of the town in Ramallah and other Palestinian cities. And the talk is not pleasant. Palestinian President Mahmou...
 
 
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08:04 PM on 11/29/2011
If Abbas really wants to stand on principal, why doesn't he reject all US funds, not only to the Palestinian Authority, but also to UNRWA? Show those meddlesome Americans that you aren't going to take orders from them. And if the US demands that you actually live up to the agreements that the Palestinians have signed (stop incitement, no unilateral moves at the UN, root out corruption, stop funding terrorism, etc.), then tell the US taxpayers to 'get bent'. It's not like anyone should demand that you give up your dream of destroying Israel. The signed agreements are just suggestions anyways.

Why stop at rejecting $150 million, reject it all. Man up!! Stand up to the Zionist controlled imperialist, oppressors and tell them to keep their money. I'm sure that the Arab/Persian world will replace it, no strings attached.
09:13 PM on 11/28/2011
The anti-zionist position.

America has every right to demand anything of israel because israel gets military aid from them

But america has to give the palestinians aid unconditionally, and can not even suggest that the palestinians shouldn't break their treaty obligations.
06:05 PM on 11/28/2011
It's useful to recall what we generally expect allies and strategic partners to do for us. In Europe, Asia, and elsewhere in the Middle East, they provide bases and support the projection of American power beyond their borders. They join us on the battlefield in places like Kuwait and Afghanistan or underwrite the costs of our military operations. They help recruit others to our coalitions. They coordinate their foreign aid with ours. Many defray the costs of our use of their facilities with "host nation support" that reduces the costs of our military operations from and through their territory. They store weapons for our troops', rather than their own troops' use. They pay cash for the weapons we transfer to them.



Israel does none of these things and shows no interest in doing them. Perhaps it can't. It is so estranged from everyone else in the Middle East that no neighboring country will accept flight plans that originate in or transit it. Israel is therefore useless in terms of support for American power projection. It has no allies other than us. It has developed no friends. Israeli participation in our military operations would preclude the cooperation of many others. Meanwhile, Israel has become accustomed to living on the American military dole. The notion that Israeli taxpayers might help defray the expense of U.S. military or foreign assistance operations, even those undertaken at Israel's behest, would be greeted with astonishment in Israel and incredulity on Capitol Hill.
04:46 PM on 11/28/2011
Per capita income in Israel is now about $37,000 -- on a par with the UK. Israel is nonetheless the largest recipient of U.S. foreign assistance, accounting for well over a fifth of it. Annual U.S. government transfers run at well over $500 per Israeli, not counting the costs of tax breaks for private donations and loans that aren't available to any other foreign country.



These military and economic benefits are not the end of the story. The American government also works hard to shield Israel from the international political and legal consequences of its policies and actions in the occupied territories, against its neighbors, or - most recently - on the high seas. The nearly 40 vetoes the United States has cast to protect Israel in the UN Security Council are the tip of iceberg. We have blocked a vastly larger number of potentially damaging reactions to Israeli behavior by the international community. The political costs to the United States internationally of having to spend our political capital in this way are huge
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05:30 PM on 11/28/2011
These military and economic benefits are not the end of the story. The American government "also works hard to shield Israel from the internatio­nal political and legal consequenc­es of its policies and actions in the occupied territorie­s, against its neighbors, or - most recently - on the high seas. The nearly 40 vetoes the United States has cast to protect Israel in the UN Security Council are the tip of iceberg. We have blocked a vastly larger number of potentiall­y damaging reactions to Israeli behavior by the internatio­nal community. The political costs to the United States internatio­nally of having to spend our political capital in this way are huge"

Recently Iraq told the US to pack up and get the hell out, because their future plan is alliance with Iran and.....Syria no less. A month ago the Iraqi government awarded new oil contracts, no American company received a contract. All the contracts went to China and Russia. 4500 dead Americans 1 Trillion in investment and that's the thank you you get. Shall we talk about Afghanistan and Pakistan?? I think you get the gist.

There is a saying "Tel me who your friends are, I'll tell you who you are" If these are the friends you are yearning for, than you are beyond redemption, dude.
05:56 PM on 11/28/2011
These military and economic benefits are not the end of the story. The American government also works hard to shield Israel from the international political and legal consequences of its policies and actions in the occupied territories, against its neighbors, or - most recently - on the high seas. The nearly 40 vetoes the United States has cast to protect Israel in the UN Security Council are the tip of iceberg. We have blocked a vastly larger number of potentially damaging reactions to Israeli behavior by the international community. The political costs to the United States internationally of having to spend our political capital in this way are huge.

Where Israel has no diplomatic relations, U.S. diplomats routinely make its case for it. As I know from personal experience (having been thanked by the then Government of Israel for my successful efforts on Israel's behalf in Africa), the U.S. government has been a consistent promoter and often the funder of various forms of Israeli programs of cooperation with other countries. It matters also that America - along with a very few other countries - has remained morally committed to the Jewish experiment with a state in the Middle East. Many more Jews live in America than in Israel. Resolute American support should be an important offset to the disquiet about current trends that has led over 20 percent of Israelis to emigrate, many of them to the United States, where Jews enjoy unprecedented security and prosperity
07:34 PM on 11/28/2011
That's pretty funny. I have a felling that if the United States invaded Israel and installed a new government there, then withdrew, the Israelis would likewise be reticent about entering into contractual agreements with American firms, at least in the short term.

You can't bomb someone into being your friend.
04:45 PM on 11/28/2011
American taxpayers fund between 20 and 25 percent of Israel's defense budget (depending on how you calculate this). Twenty-six percent of the $3 billion in military aid we grant to the Jewish state each year is spent in Israel on Israeli defense products. Uniquely, Israeli companies are treated like American companies for purposes of U.S. defense procurement. Thanks to congressional earmarks, we also often pay half the costs of special Israeli research and development projects, even when - as in the case of defense against very short-range unguided missiles -- the technology being developed is essentially irrelevant to our own military requirements. In short, in many ways, American taxpayers fund jobs in Israel's military industries that could have gone to our own workers and companies. Meanwhile, Israel gets pretty much whatever it wants in terms of our top-of-the-line weapons systems, and we pick up the tab.



Identifiable U.S. government subsidies to Israel total over $140 billion since 1949. This makes Israel by far the largest recipient of American giveaways since World War II. The total would be much higher if aid to Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, and support for Palestinians in refugee camps and the occupied territories were included. These programs have complex purposes but are justified in large measure in terms of their contribution to the security of the Jewish state.
09:16 PM on 11/28/2011
This military aid is a condition of the peace agreement with egypt, a peace agreement which has had enormous strategic dividends for america in a strategically vital part of the world.

I think you know that too.
10:29 PM on 11/28/2011
In fact, the opposite it true. Egypt and Syria gravitated towards the Soviet Sphere because of US/Western support for Israel to begin with and Syria is still Russia's Middle east base.
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04:45 PM on 11/28/2011
According to all Arab Muslims, the Jewish temple never existed, it's all a fabrication by the Jews. This story of the 30 silver pieces is the source of antisemitism. Why the writer of this article used for his title an event that according to him never happened?? Do you smell the stench??
06:00 PM on 11/28/2011
According to the Jews, God gave them the land. Thats pretty hard to verify if you ask me. You have to go way beyond some books written by some old men to lend creditabilty to that transfer of land. Its like if I wrote a book that says my mortage is paid off and now I own my house free and clear. This ice cream guy in the sky stuff has caused more wars than you can count. Can you smell the hypocritical nature of your text?
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09:49 PM on 11/28/2011
According to the Christians their god was born in the Jewish land. How about taking apart the nativity church and other holy christian holy sites and ship them to Rome??

According to the Muslims Muhammad flew up to heaven with his horse from the temple mount in Jerusalem, and that's gave them the right to build the dome of the rock right on top of our temple. So, now we own Jerusalem. According to your logic we have the right to take this masque apart and ship it to Mecca.

Your whole argument in this post is ludicrous. This whole conflict is about religion, whether you like it or not. Why is the US and the rest of the world refuse to recognize even west Jerusalem as the Jewish capital?? beside , if you insist on making it a non religious conflict it must be applied to the 3 religions claiming ownership to Jerusalem. Mocking the Jews claim only makes you and your opinion not relevance.
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h111aryc1inton
Just trying to tell the truth
03:45 PM on 11/28/2011
30 Pieces of Silver? If that really is the position of Abbas and his followers, then say "thanks but no thanks". Do not accept any responsibility for your people and the mutual security of the region and be done with it, allow Israel to determine the best way to keep their citizens safe and watch - if people think that security buffer is wide now - just wait. If they think the response to rocket attacks on Southern Israel are harsh now - just wait.

This is the scenario - make life so miserable for anyone that harbors, allows, or otherwise does not stop Hamas and every other Palestinian that thinks killing and violence are the only way to get what you want. Enough is enough.

Or...now is the time to sit down and negotiate the deal that you want. Israel has said they are ready to make peace...the world is watching.

Abbas needs to:
- set a time and a place
- agree to the right for the Jewish State of Israel to exist within mutually agreed upon borders.
- then he needs to sit back and wait

If Israel does not show up for the meeting Abbas wins - he has shown Israel is not sincere in their desire for peace. If Netanyahu shows up - he wins because he will get a land of Palestine for his people.

Where is the downside to Abbas and the Palestinian Authority?
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Greg Mirsky
Riga dimd, Riga dimd, Kas to Rigu dimdinaj?
12:54 PM on 11/28/2011
If you see America's aid as "30 pieces of silver" then don't take it. There's Russian saying about ones that use help while complaining 'bout strings attached "I rybku s"est i na h** sest'" That's hypocritical, being uncharacteristically mellow.
03:26 PM on 11/28/2011
That's just dandy. You know Iran is going to pick up the tab for fatah.
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Greg Mirsky
Riga dimd, Riga dimd, Kas to Rigu dimdinaj?
04:15 PM on 11/28/2011
I have no problem with that. We should leave behind immoral politics of "our S.O.B.". If people of the WB are are willing to do Tehran's bidding - let them go. Are we trying to buy their respect? Don't see why US has to pay them off. EU? They should decide for themselves whom and why they support in the world and in the ME in particular.
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11:34 AM on 11/28/2011
Pertinent United Nations Security Council Resolution­­­s Since 1967 As They Relate to Israel: 233, 234, 237, 242, 248, 250, 251, 252, 259, 267, 271, 298, 338, 339, 381, 425, 446, 452, 465, 468, 469, 471, 476, 478, 484, 508, 509, 512, 513, 515, 516, 517, 518, 520, 521, 573, 592, 605, 607, 608, 611, 636, 641, 672, 673, 681, 694, 726, 799, 904, 1073, 1322
All from the governing body that created the State of Israel
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Gui Montag
Former Palestinian Supporter
11:47 AM on 11/28/2011
This thread is not about Israel. You are off topic.
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Sonic hedgehog
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12:36 PM on 11/28/2011
one of the keywords on top of this article is "israeli-palestinian conflict", therefore this article is in fact about Israel or so thought the editor and/or the author of the article.
03:09 PM on 11/28/2011
How could an article about whether or not it is in the best interest of the PA to take American aid earmarked for security cooperation WITH ISRAEL not be about Israel?
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Greg Mirsky
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12:35 PM on 11/28/2011
The UN did not "create" the State of Israel but merely proposed partition of expired British Mandate for Palestine issued by the League of Nations. People of Israel, Jews, Druze, Bedouin, and Arabs, created the state. No international organization, no foreign state can create a state if people are not ready to self-governance, to take responsibility for their own decisions and actions. And UN did not "recognize" the State of Israel as recognition is diplomatic bilateral act (there are states or state-like entities that been recognized by foreign states but not are UN members). UN accepted Israel as its member and that's all.
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AJ Raalte
Israel forever - warts and all.
01:15 PM on 11/28/2011
Well said, Greg!
01:58 PM on 11/28/2011
"No internatio­nal organizati­on, no foreign state can create a state if people are not ready to self-gover­nance, to take responsibi­lity for their own decisions and actions.

You are talking about the Palestinians.

Who will run their new state, Hamas or Fatah? Neither is likely to give up its power in favor of the other. It's more likely to lead to a power struggle like when Hamas took over Gaza. Do you think this problem will magically resolve itself some how? It will more likely lead to a civil war.

How about all the rock.et at.tacks against Israel? If Hamas ends up in control of a new Palestinian state, do you think they will stop these at.tacks? Quite often it's Hamas themselves firing the rock.ets? They won't stop them, Israel will retaliate, and the whole things starts all over again.

Where will the state be? Do the Palestinians just draw a map declaring this is our land,
and Israel will agree? Not likely.

Many things have to happen before the Palestinians get a state. Negotiations with Israel are only part of what needs to be worked out first.
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11:33 AM on 11/28/2011
Isreals Non-compli­­­ance and viloation of UN Security Council Resolution­­­s -

On March 22, 1979, the Security Council adopted Resolution No. 446. Israel’s violation of Resolution 446 (sections quoted below) represents the most flagrant violation of Israel, not only of the UN but also the stated policy of our government under successive administra­­­tions:

(The Council) Determines that the policy and practices of Israel in establishi­­­ng settlement­­­s in the Palestinia­­­n and Arab territorie­­­s occupied since 1967 have no legal validity and constitute a serious obstructio­­­n to achieving a comprehens­­­ive and lasting peace in the Middle East; Calls once more upon Israel, as the occupying power, to abide scrupulous­­­ly by the 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention­­­, to rescind it’s previous measures and to desist from taking any action which would result in changing the legal status and geographic­­­al nature and materially affecting the demographi­­­c compositio­­­n of the Arab territorie­­­s occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem, and in particular­­­, not to transfer parts of its own civilian population into the occupied Arab territorie­­­s.
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11:57 AM on 11/28/2011
This resolution, perhaps the poster should know, contradicts basic, fundamental international laws that have governed the evolving of historic status of "Palestine".

Specifically, the San Remo Conference, 1920, designated "Palestine" - the name of a territory, not a state/nationality - that presently consists of Jordan, Israel, WestBank and Gaza to be the "national home for the Jewish people".

The British, 1921, contrary to the spirit of San Remo, handed over 77% of "Palestine" to the Arabs, consisting of today's Muslim-Arab country of Jordan.

The rest, 23% of "Palestine", or present day Israel-WestBank-Gaza, remained to be the "national home for the Jewish people" in which Jews may settle without any limitation. This was accepted by the League of Nations, 1922.

The League of Nations decisions were then adopted by the United Nations, 1945, and in its Charter, Article 80, specifically prohibited anyone to change League of Nations decisions without the consent of the people for whom the area is "the national home for the Jewish people", i.e. the Jewish people.
05:21 PM on 11/28/2011
The San Remo rant of yours is getting boring. A bunch of Europeans deciding the fate of the majority of the people in that part of the world does not impress me as being the shining star to democracy. Why don't you recite the Cain-King commission that says that the people did not want a small minority of Europeans to take over their land. Remember Wilson wanted the people to decide their fate, not some far away Europeans in a far off conference in a area of the world that they had no clue about. When a group a people decide the fate of the indigeous people over a small minority does not make for a good accounting of history.
Tony Andrews
Ὁ βίος βραχύς, ἡ δὲ τέχν
08:59 PM on 11/28/2011
We've been through this nonsense before, and you keep posting it in what I can only assume is a hope that some people will believe it.

The San Remo conference authorised the administration of Palestine as it evolved into self governance. It did not define a Jewish state, nor did it say where a home for the Jewish people might have any boundaries, if any boundaries at all. It did not prescribe an unlimited migration of Jewish people into Palestine.

All of the League of Nations decisions regarding the mandate left the administration of that mandate to the mandatory power, with the proviso that the League might intervene if that power was enacting matters which were in conflict with its objectives. The mandatory power concluded (1922) that a "home" was not a "state" and that the Jewish people might find a "home" within Palestine and share governance on a proportional basis. The League did not intervene and, therefore, confirmed the mandatory power's conclusions.

If the UN Charter, Article 80, means anything, it is that the mandatory power's decisions, unchallenged by the League, should have been "prohibited to change."

The Jewish population of Palestine at the time of the partition plan was less than 30% of the whole. There was no attempt to find a consensus that agreed with the UN's decision to produce a partition plan. That plan was clearly objected to by the majority of the population. Your assertion about "the consent of the people" is another nonsense.
11:00 AM on 11/28/2011
"Israeli occupation cost the Palestinian economy around $7 billion in 2010 [...] Losses sustained by Israel's occupation are equivalent to 85 percent of Palestinian nominal GDP".

See: http://tiny.cc/gjavz
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Gui Montag
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11:11 AM on 11/28/2011
Sounds like making peace is in the Palestinians' economic interest. They should do so.
11:33 AM on 11/28/2011
"Sounds like making peace is in the Palestinians' economic interest"

Of course 'peace' is not in Israel's economic best interests, not when Israel can sell it's goods to a captive market like the Palestinians, not when Israel can steal prime Palestinian agricultural land and hand it over to the illegal Israeli settlers, not when Israel can steal Palestinian resources (eg: $900 million per year through control of WB mining and quarrying), etc.

With such illegal economic interests is it any wonder that Israel has no interest in make peace?
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11:31 AM on 11/28/2011
All the more reason to come to the negotiating table in order to talk peace. But, of course, regardless of the economic benefits of doing so, the PLO knows that at the table it would eventually be asked to accept Israel's right to be, to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people, and to accept a peace treaty as the end of the conflict and the end of all future demands. And, the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), let alone Hamas, simply can't bring itself to meet these requests, thus let the people starve...
10:38 AM on 11/28/2011
Of course the simple fact is that the Palestinian People would not need such financial support if they were free of Israeli occupation and oppression.

Area C of the West Bank, which Israel controls, is considered the breadbasket of the Palestinian territories was never given over to the Palestinians as per the Oslo Accords.

All Palestinian imports and exports are controlled by the Israelis, Gaza is a good example of how Israel can destroy the Palestinian economy at will.

Israel controls all tax revenue belonging to the Palestinians, this is the same tax revenue which Israel is now 'withholding' (contrary to the Oslo Accords) in order to punish the Palestinians.

Israel has wantonly destroyed Palestinian farmland, infrastructure (ie: water irrigation systems), countless olive trees, etc.

The 'Separation Barrier' has robbed Palestinians of their land, land which is now given over to the illegal Israeli settlers.

Foreign investors are by and large unwilling to invest in Palestine as they know Israel can destroy their investments at a moments notice.

In short the Palestinian economy will always be a truly 'captive market' while under Israeli occupation and control.
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Gui Montag
Former Palestinian Supporter
10:44 AM on 11/28/2011
It's always somebody else's fault.
10:55 AM on 11/28/2011
"It's always somebody else's fault"

I never mentioned the word 'fault' I was talking solely about 'control' and the Israel 'controls' the Palestinian People as well as their economy.

Don't like this fact? Then call for the end of the Israel military occupation of Palestine.
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11:00 AM on 11/28/2011
The term "introspection" doesn't exist in Arabic...
Rosin the Bow
Hail to the Victors Valiant
10:44 AM on 11/28/2011
"Of course the simple fact is that the Palestinia­n People would not need such financial support if they were free of Israeli occupation and oppression­."

I guess they should make peace then.
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MrSarcasm
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11:38 AM on 11/28/2011
You mean "willingly submit to colonial enslavement", don't you?
08:53 AM on 11/28/2011
There is absolutely no reason for the United States or any other Western country to give money to "Palestine".
09:40 AM on 11/28/2011
There is absolutely no reason for the United States or any other Western country to give money to "Israel­" either.
Rosin the Bow
Hail to the Victors Valiant
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Gui Montag
Former Palestinian Supporter
08:34 AM on 11/28/2011
12 billion Euros remain unaccounted for under the Arafat regime. Donations to the PA from the EU are slated to be increased by 40%, collectively this year (Oct-Dec 2011) to 140 million Euros. Individual countries, e.g. Belgium and Spain have noted their own unilateral increased contributions as well. The US continues to fund almost all of UNWRA to the tune of about 275 million per year on top of approx 100 million per year under security accords.
abetterplace
Capitalistic reverand
07:56 AM on 11/28/2011
Self defense 101. You do not give money to people that would kill you given the chance. End of story.
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Gui Montag
Former Palestinian Supporter
08:58 AM on 11/28/2011
Remember Cleo Noel.
Michael II
Neither the one, nor the only
09:08 AM on 11/28/2011
In 1973? 48 years ago? What's the connection with Abbas?
09:41 AM on 11/28/2011
Or spy on you, or sell your secrets to China, or manipulate you into unnecessary wars.
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Gui Montag
Former Palestinian Supporter
10:04 AM on 11/28/2011
I like how you don't even try to defend the Palestinians, only deflect deflect deflect.
02:56 PM on 11/28/2011
Which wars? Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam? Which ones?

Afghanistan was because of 9/11 and OBL and Al-Qaeda having bases there. Iraq, nothing to do with Israel. In fact Iraq kept Iran on a leash, and Iran is a much bigger threat to Israel than Iraq ever was.

Maybe you mean Iran. Iran has been at odds with the US since the hostage crisis in 1979. They also have yearly "de.ath to America rallies", which has nothing to do with Israel either. The truth of the matter is that the Saudis, and other Mus.lim counties in the region, are just as worried about the Iranians gaining nukes as Israel is.

So which wars?