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An Inconvenient Truth: More Religious Freedom Means Less Religious Conflict

Posted: 10/23/10 05:19 PM ET

Many Americans would be happy to wake up tomorrow, and discover an Islamic center was not going to be built near Ground Zero and that they would not have to hear of another pastor planning to burn Qurans.

The decisions would be popular, justified in part by a desire to preserve public order and to reduce potential violence.

But if they were coerced they also would be dangerous.

Take away religious freedoms and violent religious persecution and conflict are likely to increase, Brian Grim of the Pew Research Center and Roger Finke of Pennsylvania State University point out in their upcoming book from Cambridge University Press, The Price of Freedom Denied.

In analyzing U.S. State Department International Religious Freedom Reports for 143 countries outside the United States with a population of at least 2 million, researchers found 86 percent of the nations have documented cases of people being physically abused or displaced from their homes because of religious persecution.

The more severe the levels of religious restriction, the greater the risk of violent persecution, the authors found. Forty-four percent of governments interfering with the right to worship had more than 200 cases of violent religious persecution; only 9 percent of countries with freedom of worship had similar rates of abuse.

The price of freedom, religious liberty scholars suggest, sometimes requires allowing the building of a mosque near the spot where terrorists motivated by Islam committed mass murder or permitting the public burning of holy books.

"We don't have a law against offending anyone's sensibilities," said political scientist Anthony Gill of the University of Washington. "This is just the messiness of democracy."

It could happen here

The United States is no exception to either religious discrimination or the temptation to withhold religious freedoms.

In their book, Grim and Finke provide several examples why religious freedoms cannot be taken for granted here. Consider the following:

- Judicial rulings such as a 1990 Supreme Court decision making it easier for governments to restrict religion can have a major impact. The percentage of favorable decisions on First Amendment cases involving religion dropped from 40 percent to 28 percent in the period between the decision and the passage in 1993 of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. The number of free exercise claims also dropped dramatically, from 7.1 cases initiated a month to 3.2 cases a month after the ruling.

-Hate crimes motivated by a religious bias have been reported to the FBI in nearly all 50 states for every year in the 21st century. In 2006, there were documented reports of one person being killed, 178 assaulted and 718 properties damaged or destroyed due to religious bias.

- Public opinion can be fickle. A 2000 survey by the First Amendment center found nearly 73 percent of Americans said the freedom to worship applies to all religious groups regardless of how extreme their beliefs are. In a 2007 survey, just 56 percent were as supportive.

More recently, the controversy over the New York mosque has brought to light several cases around the country where zoning restrictions and public pressures are being used to prevent new mosques from going up.

What is less well known is that Muslim groups are only a small fraction of the groups affected by zoning battles. The great majority are Christian congregations facing local governments bowing to pressures from Not In My Backyard groups of neighborhood residents or a desire to keep limited open land on the tax rolls.

"This is widespread across all denominations," Gill said. "It affects everybody."

'Your freedom is my freedom'

The truth, Grim and Finke note throughout their book, is that religious freedom can be inconvenient.

Neighbors don't want increased traffic on Sunday morning. Majority religions are tempted to limit competition and strengthen themselves by seeking favored status. Governments contemplate the strife committed in the name of religion, and see restrictions as a way to protect the public good.

Yet it is the act of restricting religion, not the presence of diverse groups of faiths, that most likely leads to religious persecution and violence, Grim and Finke maintain.

Religious freedom, Grim and Finke state, serves to reduce conflict, in part by decreasing public tolerance for vigilantism against less popular groups and guarding against the "tyranny of the majority." Minority religious groups also have fewer grievances that potentially fuel violence.

And, as illustrated by the pervasive religious zoning battles today and the 1990 Supreme Court decision in a case involving Native American religion that ended up having a chilling effect on religious liberty, all faith groups have a stake in protecting religious freedom, scholars say.

"The clear message is that even though religious freedoms are inconvenient, they're the very thing that diffuses religious tensions," Finke said. "Their religious freedoms are my religious freedoms."

David Briggs writes the Ahead of the Trend column for the Association of Religion Data Archives.

 
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04:34 AM on 11/01/2010
"As the Government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the law, religion or tranquility of Musselmen; and as the states never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mohometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinion shall ever produce an interruption of harmony existing between the two countries."

--John Adams
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Libertarian09
Anti War Socialist with a taste for freedom
03:01 AM on 11/03/2010
Trust you to find an appropriate sentiment from one of the founders. Keep it up girl, you are a beacon of sensibility around here. I wonder what Adams would have had to say about this latest election cycle.
05:28 PM on 11/03/2010
Always glad to help when I'm not at work, class, or hospital ^^.
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TYRANNASAURUS
UGH!....people taste like crap!
07:25 PM on 10/31/2010
The truth is religions are about total control......... any appearance of freedom is imaginary.
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Dr Juan
We built America without BO
11:10 PM on 10/29/2010
Here is the real inconvenient truth intentionally homogenized bland religion:

http://www.isoc.ws/audiouploads/recording.mp3
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jonjon tha 5 8
My micro-bio is teeming with germs
07:10 PM on 10/29/2010
True, but less religion in the first place means even less religious conflict.
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Libertarian09
Anti War Socialist with a taste for freedom
03:03 AM on 11/03/2010
Agreed but religion isn't going away so the greater the freedom the better. Last thing you want to do is drive it underground where it can fester before re-emerging even more virulent than before.
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HerrMonk
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11:48 AM on 10/26/2010
This sounds more like a plea for western style "a-religious" secularism than for "more religious freedoms", and seems to ignore little facts like, if my religion tells me I own women, you're not going to give me the religious freedom to sell my daughter.
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Libertarian09
Anti War Socialist with a taste for freedom
03:08 AM on 11/03/2010
That indeed is a valid point. There are inherent roadblocks to absolute religious freedom, but freedom within the law of the land is possible.
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DarianSentient
Omnium Bonum Est
03:06 AM on 10/26/2010
I would not be so worried about religion were religion content to keep its influence within the sphere of its believers, rather than attempt to influence public policy (which affects everyone regardless of religious affiliation), like the freaking Constitution says to do. Unfortunately, most religions incorporate some sort of superiority over others into their beliefs, which seems to create a very strong incentive to dictate terms to an entire nation for the greater glory of [insert god of choice here]. It is this missionary instinct that separation of church and state is meant to address... and which so many of the religious people I know personally would wish were not so.

...All THAT being said: I think liberalism is a good means by which to curtail this tendency, since respect for the rule of law is having so much trouble. And yes, creating an environment where different faiths can intermingle with each other (AND secularism) is an excellent means by which to achieve this. So yes: religious freedom will lead to less religious conflict, especially long term... but only so long as we stay focused on the church/state divide.
08:43 AM on 10/26/2010
Darian, what you brought up speaks to why I am so upset about the so called 'Ground Zero Mosque'. To clarify, I am very upset about the protests against it.
The very instant that we, as a nation, start telling people that which they can and cannot believe, we become that which we should stand most against. I served in this nation's military for two main reasons; (a) I wanted to be a part of a great force for peace and good in this world and (b) I wanted to be a part of the force which allows this country the right to be so diverse.
Unfortunately, I'm fairly jaded about those ideals I had then and the military's place in upholding them.
Instead of pointing to the military as this amazing thing that helps maintain us strong, secular, peace loving and diverse- the military is used as a rallying cry by those who seem to hate the very ideals this country was founded on, what the military was founded to protect.
We are succeeding as a nation when the voices for tolerance are louder and clearer than the voices for divisiveness. When we applaud the building of temples to a god that we do not worship. When the common man defends the right of his neighbour to believe in that which he does not. Then, as a country, we are winning.
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Libertarian09
Anti War Socialist with a taste for freedom
03:16 AM on 11/03/2010
I could not possibly agree more strongly with every sentiment you voice. You bring to mind one of the worlds great thinkers in regards to freedom.

"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself. - Thomas Paine

Best wishes on this election eve from a fellow citizen who wishes for a more peaceful, compassionate and tolerant world.
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messy
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04:20 PM on 10/26/2010
Well, if you believe something to be true, such as the religious supposition 2+2=4, then anyone disagreeing is either a moron or evil.
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Libertarian09
Anti War Socialist with a taste for freedom
03:23 AM on 11/03/2010
Not necessarily true as there are many interpretations of many different faiths and many of them are not quite so hard line. I know that some interpretations of the Quran state that the dictates of Islam apply only to the Muslim and that those who do not share the faith are to be given acceptance and respect. Some Christians believe that a person's deeds are all that matters and that belief or acknowledgment of Christ are not requirements to enter Heaven.
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03:47 PM on 10/25/2010
Was the "bad" Supreme Court decision Smith V Oregan/US Supreme Court.
Cause if it was , I gotta say. In one's religion he may drink, smoke or snort anything he wants to. He has that Constitutional right. But he doesn't have the Constitutional right to operate heavy machinery over me 'after ' he partakes of it. I really don't know the particulars of that case, but "protected" drugs don't belong in the workplace.
08:51 AM on 10/26/2010
I'm a big believer in allowing people to do whatever they want.... so long as whatever they want doesn't harm another being.
Your right to be angry stops at the other man's nose.
Your right to a god stops at my child's classroom (before there really, the whole school is off-limits).
Your right to be drunk stops before you drive (or do any of the other brilliantly dumb things inebriated people do).
The same line of thinking is pretty much what I use to figure out how I feel about the 'rightness' or morality of any act.
In Employment Division, Department of Human Resources of Oregon v. Smith, the court actually found against Smith. It's a rather interesting case and wiki has a pretty good write up if you're interested.
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07:00 PM on 10/26/2010
Agree all the way. I might have misread the case, I thought the Oregon court found for him.and then the "BAD" US Supreme Court found against him.
At any rate you're right His rights stop when I'm in danger.
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Brainstormy
Still waiting for the trickle-down.
02:25 PM on 10/25/2010
Freedom of religion will never get us anywhere, because the true believers necessarily must convert, or kill, those they believe to be in error. Humankind's only hope is in freedom FROM religion.

“Whoever imagines himself a favorite with God holds others in contempt”
Robert Green Ingersoll
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LennyR
11:40 PM on 10/25/2010
So to fix everything is very simple: everyone just has to agree and think exactly in one way, preferably yours?
A-Superstitionist
Keep thy superstitions to thyself and out of laws
02:10 PM on 10/26/2010
The constitution ensures freedom OF religion.

That means you have the right to exercise YOUR religion and I have the right to exercise MY religion or NONE AT ALL.

As a result, the only way freedom OF religion can be ensured is when freedom FROM religion is ensured. Why?

A few examples:

1. A religion may require that adulterers are stoned to death. However, this conflicts in the US with the US constitution.

2. A religion may declare that contraception is a mortal sin and instruct its pharmacists not to sell any contraception. However, contraception is legal in this country and anyone has the right to purchase contraception.

3. A religion may declare that same sex marriage is against their god. They may instruct their followers of the same sex not to marry. However, the constitutional right to equal treatment and equal rights conflict with this religious position.

Everyone has the right to THINK that their religion is above the constitution but everyone has the constitutional right to life, liberty, equality and justice irrespective of what anyone thinks.

We are therefore not free to execute everything that we believe. The net result is freedom FROM religion.
09:00 AM on 10/26/2010
I'm a pretty die hard atheist, however I find a flaw, if not in your logic, in your presentation.

I think the world WOULD be a much happier place, if all gods were relegated to storytelling and mythology. However, I think that the route which will lead us there is through tolerance.
Teach about religions. Teach about religious people. Have these centers to peace, diversity and exchange of religious knowledge and theology.
As religions and religious people learn more about each other, they will become more tolerant of each other. Right know, the demonizing that is occuring is almost entirely built of ignorance. People are people, no matter the faith that binds them or the god they worship. Underneath the trappings of religion, people are all inherently the same mix of good and evil- mostly good.
As the tolerance is developed and nourished, more and more of the religious people will come to atheism on their own. The realization that Ghandi will not be in a Christian Heaven and that Mother Theresa will never see Jannah will start to eek reason into now open minds.
A closed mind can see nothing. To achieve tolerance, minds must be open. An open mind is the enemy to bigotry, intolerance, racism.
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Brainstormy
Still waiting for the trickle-down.
11:52 AM on 10/26/2010
I was suggesting an end goal, an ideal world in which all the gods we're currently killing ourselves over have gone the way of Aries, or Thor. I agree with you completely that open-mindedness, and reason, and self-education are the pathways to this, but when the preachers and rabbis and mullahs "teach" their respective religions you get nothing but proselytizing. Who should do the teaching? Who, if not the unbelievers, can promote this tolerance? And wouldn't you say that most Americans know more about Islam than they did a decade ago? Has this promoted more tolerance? Personally, I'm not sure. I agree with your point even if I don't share your optimism.
01:15 PM on 10/25/2010
I am an atheist. I do not believe that prayer should be allowed in school. I believe that any religious rule is dangerous. HOWEVER!
I believe that all people have a right to practice their own faiths. So long as their practice of that faith does not lead to hurting any other being. The right to freedom of religion stops at my door (my school, my work, my child, etc). While I personally do not believe in any religions, I very strongly believe in the freedom to have faith, the freedom to worship. Whether you worship in a church, temple, mosque or garden... that is the freedom and promise that we are ALL guarunteed. This pretense of a Christocentric country is a laughable, bold-faced lie.
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03:53 PM on 10/25/2010
As someone who has fought School Led Prayer, let me say that I agree with you. Any child who wishes to can kneel down and pray (for my part). He cannot demand others be quiet, or respectfull.He cannot disrupt school, just as an otherwise unrully student cannot. And most of all the Government Employee Schoolteacher cannot call him or the class to prayer. And she cannot call everyone to prayer and send the lone child who protest to the office or out in the cold hallway.
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DarianSentient
Omnium Bonum Est
03:06 AM on 10/26/2010
Agreed with both you and Danicka... indeed, I would not be so worried about religion were religion content to keep its influence within the sphere of its believers, rather than attempt to influence public policy (which affects everyone regardless of religious affiliation), like the freaking Constitution says to do. Unfortunately, most religions incorporate some sort of superiority over others into their beliefs, which seems to create a very strong incentive to dictate terms to an entire nation for the greater glory of [insert god of choice here]. It is this missionary instinct that separation of church and state is meant to address... and which so many of the religious people I know personally would wish were not so.

...All THAT being said: I think liberalism is a good means by which to curtail this tendence, since respect for the rule of law is having so much trouble. And yes, creating an environment where different faiths can intermingle with each other (AND secularism) is an excellent means by which to achieve this. So yes: religious freedom will lead to less religious conflict, especially long term... but only so long as we stay focused on the church/state divide.
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Libertarian09
Anti War Socialist with a taste for freedom
08:26 PM on 11/03/2010
The place for prayer is in your mind. If you wish to worship your chosen God fine, but there is no need to involve anyone but yourself and your God. You don't need to be in church, you don't need to be in the comforting surroundings of like minded people. Your God will still hear your prayers if your God is listening at all. In school if you wish to pray, by all means go ahead but as I say keep it between you and God and leave the rest of the class out of your praying.
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lornabright
The essence of life is freedom.
12:51 PM on 10/25/2010
In 2000, 73% of Americans supported religious freedom - that was before 9/11 - before we realized there were Muslims among us. Kind of a DADT type of thing.
Learning about other religions would help to alleviate fears.
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Ahmed Ahmad
Atheists UNITE!!
10:06 PM on 10/25/2010
In the case of islam, the more one learns about it, the more concerned they are...
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Libertarian09
Anti War Socialist with a taste for freedom
08:26 PM on 11/03/2010
Then they are probably learning from the wrong teacher.
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chipchuck
Rethink that...
11:52 AM on 10/25/2010
The problem is, just because the government says you're free to practice any belief (or none at all), that doesn't automatically make the people accept others for differing views.

Just like we have laws that forbid murder, yet people still commit it.

I think the best a government can do is stay away from people's beliefs on religion. As long as their beliefs don't harm others, so be it.
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
11:45 AM on 10/25/2010
If the reast of us can put up with Christianists, they can put up with us! They make the mistake of believing that they don't offend anyone, or at least not anyone who matters. This is both false and arrogant.
Moderate Christians do not get headlines. We struggle along, day to day, trying to do what is right, and we seldom get noticed. That does not mean we don't exist, and it does not mean that we don't find rigid right-wing Christianists offensive. We do!
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04:01 PM on 10/25/2010
OK, I noticed you, and fanned you to. Good to know you folks are out there
09:17 PM on 10/25/2010
You need to be much, much more vocal. Write letters to the editor for starters. Join protests against some of the nuttier ideas the other Xtian crackpots come up with. They are a danger to this country that cannot and should not be underestimated.
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farmilyman
everything is illusion
11:16 AM on 10/25/2010
Religious freedom hurts those that want to use religioin as a tool to supress people.
05:02 PM on 10/25/2010
Turns out the Founding Fathers got something right.
DrSnuggles
You label me and I'll label you
10:30 AM on 10/25/2010
I think this article makes a great point - proponents of religion often forget that the separation of church and state is not designed to protect government from religion, but to protect religion from itself.
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Hillbilly49
Don't tell me you are a Christian; let me guess.
09:30 AM on 10/25/2010
It's a great article I wish all the fundamentalist evangelical Christians would read it and follow the message.