David Horton

David Horton

Posted: May 17, 2008 07:17 PM

Costs nothing to be civil

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The rulers of Burma, and Zimbabwe, have recently made sure, if there was a shred of doubt remaining, that they don't run civilized countries. And they are not alone of course. Got me to thinking more generally - how do you recognize a civilized country?

1. The military-industrial complex plays no role in government.
2. Religion plays a very small role in society, not forbidden, but not compulsory.
3. Scientists, teachers, nurses, artists, are all valued more than sports people and celebrities.
4. Speech is free and the media varied.
5. There are few if any guns.
6. The environment is cared for.
7. The government does not execute its people.
8. Women have full social and economic equality with men.
9. Minorities are not persecuted.
10. Sexuality is not a criterion for human rights.
11. Education of children is universal, free and secular.
12. Other species are respected, valued and protected.
13. Everyone secretly votes, every vote is openly counted independent of government.
14. Regulation protects people from giant corporations.
15. Other countries are not invaded, war isn't glorified.
16. Wealth is not a criterion for political success, or social worth.
17. Art and heritage are valued; literature, film and television increase in quality over time.
18. Natural disasters bring massive state support for the hurt and homeless and helpless.
19. The old, the sick, the disabled, are cared for.
20. The government tells the truth.
21. Public enterprise is as valued as private enterprise.
22. The courts and police are independent of politicians.
23. Unions flourish
24. The balance between life at work and life at home is a healthy one.
25. Aspirations are achievable by all.

There, what do you think? Four points maximum for each - how does your country rate out of 100?

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I'm from Holland, and by my admitedly optimistic outlook I recon we score about a 65-70

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 05/18/2008
- Bobrobert I'm a Fan of Bobrobert 9 fans permalink

wow

Civilized country = no religion.

Pathetic.

No military, no guns.

More pathetic.

Utopia.

Most pathetic.

Dribble that is good for the soul and means nothing in reality.

Don't forget to vote everyone.

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 05/18/2008

Sounds like the second McCain term.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 05/18/2008
- tcagle I'm a Fan of tcagle 8 fans permalink
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Sounds like a good government, but will it work on humans?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 05/18/2008
- burnt I'm a Fan of burnt 7 fans permalink

I don't want to look on the negatives this afternoon... we are experiencing a global warming record high today (and yesterday)... and it feels good at this time of year in Seattle.

Suffice to say, I am very supportive of the criteria that you have chosen as indicators for achievement. We have lost our way for such a long time. It would be more than "nice" to get back on the path. I'm looking forward to the opportunity to participate in meaningful change. I know there's a lot of idealism in what you advocate. I have never strived for "utopia"... a little less blood wastefully spilled in some foreign sandbox is a start for me.

Thanks David.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 05/17/2008

Let's see - I guess #11 is true - that would give the US a 4.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 05/17/2008
- wldnswmmr I'm a Fan of wldnswmmr 24 fans permalink

Except for religious interference in states like Georgia and Kansas, in science subjects particularly. So not entirely "secular" education. So maybe 2/3 x 4 = 2.67 out of a possible 100.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 PM on 05/17/2008

True! How could I forget the anti-science crowd?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 05/18/2008
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