David Horton

David Horton

Posted: November 23, 2008 05:11 AM

Just a little jab, won't hurt

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I see Ian Fraser, who developed the vaccine against cervical cancer, is now working on one for a form of skin cancer. What next I wondered.

Remember the fuss about the cervical cancer vaccine? The religious fundamentalists were outraged that a scientist was attempting to remove one bit of the "wages of sin is death" mentality. So they were refusing to let their daughters be vaccinated because then they (the daughters) might be tempted to engage in S.E.X. without realising that if they did they would die, horribly. God intended them to die horribly, I guess, by creating cervical cancer in the first place.

Wonder what they will say about a skin cancer vaccine? Refuse to allow their children to have it because god intended that if they went in the sun too much they should die horribly? Can't have scientists playing god of course, that is the job of religious fundamentalists.

I think someone should work on an anti-religion vaccine.

See I think that, just as no one realised that some cancers were caused by infectious agents, no one has properly understood that religion is not just a metaphorical disease, but an actual one. I think that a few thousand years ago the Earth happened to pass through a cloud containing a particularly virulent and infectious organism. The dust rained down on the planet (which explains why all religions have a belief in some kind of "heaven" "up there" in the sky) and the plague began. Passed on from parents and community elders to children. Doesn't take much, especially if the child can be infected at a very young age, but usually much harder in adults who have developed some immunity.

Shouldn't be too hard to develop a vaccine. Religion, like influenza, does come in a few different varieties, but they share a lot of common features, and finding the common core of the virus and producing general immunity all over the world should be relatively straightforward.

Once everyone was immunised then scientists could get back to developing vaccines and cures for other nasty diseases which have evolved in humans, knowing that they would no longer be rejected by sufferers of religiosity, their brains scrambled by irrational beliefs.

And the side effects of a world immune to religion would be not inconsiderable. One of those win-win solutions. I think I might volunteer to do some work to help the development. I'm sure some of you will join me.

I know many fundamentalists like to frighten themselves by peeping into the atheist world, rather in the way others might watch a horror movie, or take a scary ride in a fun park. All are welcome to have a peep at the terrifying atheism of The Watermelon Blog.

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I see Ian Fraser, who developed the vaccine against cervical cancer, is now working on one for a form of skin cancer. What next I wondered. Remember the fuss about the cervical cancer vaccine? The re...
I see Ian Fraser, who developed the vaccine against cervical cancer, is now working on one for a form of skin cancer. What next I wondered. Remember the fuss about the cervical cancer vaccine? The re...
 
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> I don't see the vaccine issue as a religious one, but an issue of parental choice.

The HPV vaccine was turned into a religious issue by the abstance only literalists fundamentalist movement, so you are completely mistaken, and don’t have a clue as to that which you speak. Although, I will agree that there as been contention among some State governments as to forcing mandatory non-contagious vaccinations of this type on children. Especially at such a high cost and not covering all forms of the HPV virus.

> Vaccines have over and over again proven to be potentially deadly.

*Proven*, you don’t say? And over and over again? Then you should not have any problem providing evidence to that affect, otherwise it’s heresay. No junk science claims please.

> Look at the side-effects. There are plenty of non-religious folks who don't want to vaccinate their kids with these potentially deadly poisons so let's not make this an excuse to attack religious people.

One need make no excuse to attack ignorance and superstitions.

> China and the former Soviet Union. They are the most suppressive countries toward religion yet would anyone in America trade places with someone from these places?

Exactly what does that have to do with the “*price of milk*”?
These totalitarian States suppress all forms of free thinking that do not tow the party line, dogmatic as religionists. Let us not forget the inquisition, just one atrocity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 AM on 11/27/2008
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> They are not exactly bastions of sanity and wellness. And where are all the prison inmates who spent every weekend in their church, temple, mosque or synagogue before they got incarcerated? They are nearly non-existent.

There you go again, mixing rotten apples with rotten oranges. Where are the pedophile Priests and Crooked Clergy that spend all their time in Church? They are numerous. Speaking to sanity and wellness, especially of Children.

> We need to stop focusing on the wrong cause. Religion and religious people aren't the problem. It's bad people who are the problem. It's ignorance, which is the problem. It’s false information, hate, discrimination, bigotry and oppressive governments, which are the problem. Let's look at the true causes because we've already seen what happens when you label and entire group as the problem. Think Holocaust and Iraq.

Exactly, then why do you use sophistry to twist true cause and effect? Your fallacy arguments are a part of the problem.

> The fact that Mr. Obama is an Evangelical? I see this as a good thing and I'm not even Christian.

> This vaccine issue is a matter of choice and health, not religion.

So why as you admitly claim no knowledge of Christianity should this statement be considered to have any weight or authority? Especially, when its fallacy is so plain to see for anyone with knowledge on the subject of Christian theology and literalist dogma?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 11/27/2008
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Dear Brother David, ( If I may on this occasion, as this issue has always been close to my heart)

We are in the exact same stream of conxciousness on this one. An excellent post, dine with your usual cattle prodding methiod (it always tickels me.) to stir-up the true-believers. One does not need shots if you believe hard enough, all things are possible with God,He will save them.

BTW I was just thinking of ya last night,and was gonna drip in on ya at thr Watermellon Blog. Spring down-under is in full bloom I'll bet, the Mullberries will be read for your table. Happy Spring. Agape, dapper

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 11/25/2008
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Hi Dap, thank you. The mulberries are indeed just ripe and I ate one or two, straight from the tree, a few days ago. Hope you had a good Thanksgiving.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 AM on 11/27/2008
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Thanks Dr.Horton, Glad you were able to decipher my poor typing, sorry. This thanksgiving is much better than the last, I was quite stress out and worried as to the direction my Republic would take, so I'm indeed grateful and relieved, a paradigm shift has been set in motion and that's a good thing.

I'm making baked cheese (goat's milk) ravioli, with melted fresh mozzarella between layers, salad greens (mixed) and spumomi ice cream for desert and a sea food antipasto start off with plus grapes and aged cheeses. Happy campers here. Agape.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 11/27/2008

I don't see the vaccine issue as a religious one, but an issue of parental choice. Vaccines have over and over again proven to be potentially deadly. Just look at the side-effects. There are plenty of non-religious folks who don't want to vaccinate their kids with these potentially deadly poisons so let's not make this an excuse to attack religious people.

Eradication of religion will not solve our problems. Just look at China and the former Soviet Union. They are the most suppressive countries toward religion yet would anyone in America trade places with someone from these places? They are not exactly bastions of sanity and wellness. And where are all the prison inmates who spent every weekend in their church, temple, mosque or synagogue before they got incarcerated? They are nearly non-existent.

We need to stop focusing on the wrong cause. Religion and religious people aren't the problem. It's bad people who are the problem. It's ignorance, which is the problem. It’s false information, hate, discrimination, bigotry and oppressive governments, which are the problem. Let's look at the true causes because we've already seen what happens when you label and entire group as the problem. Think Holocaust and Iraq.

Lastly, how many people on this site even bother to acknowledge the fact that Mr. Obama is an Evangelical? I see this as a good thing and I'm not even Christian.

This vaccine issue is a matter of choice and health, not religion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 11/23/2008
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"It's ignorance, which is the problem"

Yup, and the religious right is determined to keep their flock ignorant, and obedient.

Obama is NOT an evangelical.

The Vaccine issue is a matter of choice for some, but for many religious right leaders, it IS in fact a matter of religion and "morals". Just go read or listen to what THEY say about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 11/24/2008
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Happy Thanksgiveing Brother HeevenSteven to You and Yours. May your table be graced with pleanty, Love and good cheer. Agape, dapper

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See that's just it.

People have forgotten the part where religion presents a path to follow that nurtures the soul and well-being.

It has degenerated into or perhaps was always only a method of inducing fear in the masses and then telling the masses but wait! I can save you but only I can save you. Hmmm. Sounds sorta like the GOP political philosophy now that I type it out.

But the masses aren't really all that sure that they can be saved. So they huddle in fear hoping that if they live by the rules their religious leaders give them, which don't necessarily coincide with Christ's teachings, they might just squeak by and not be thrown into a pit of fire for eternity.

Fear is the mind killer though. It paralyzes the body and mind and prevents one from making good choices and/or good decisions.

And in the end it brings us to this point. Some parents seem to believe that their God wants them to cause the suffering and horrible deaths of their children by denying them medicine in hopes that this will instill enough fear in their children that they will deny the very humanity that was supposedly a gift from God.

Me, I'm happy with the eight "I'd Really Rather You Didn't's" of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 11/23/2008
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