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David Horton

David Horton

Posted: March 3, 2010 03:51 AM

Putting away childish things

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Who was it who said we shouldn't tell children fairy stories, things that aren't true? I disagree. My grandchildren all love made up things, strange things, things "beyond the present world". Love pretending that odd things like flying and magic can happen. Love, in fact, stuff that children have always loved.

But we stop, don't we, pretending about most of this stuff? Either when they ask a question, perhaps with some encouragement, or just let it slip away, embarrassed, when their friends spill the beans, one by one they lose belief in Father Xmas, Tooth Fairy and other fairies, Easter Bunny, witches and wizards, Superman, things that go bump in the night, and all the rest of the imaginary furniture of a child's world. And as parents, grandparents, we might regret the loss of belief in fantastic things, while appreciating more signposts, along with new teeth and pencil marks of height creeping up a wall, of a child maturing, growing wiser. Might in fact be a little worried if beliefs in unreality persisted too long, would drop big hints if a child was really still believing in obviously untrue things beyond, say, the age of seven, perhaps eight.

Except, in some cases, where the beliefs involve the obvious untruths of whichever religion the child has been indoctrinated with. Then the parents want the children to keep understanding as children, thinking as children, and never to put away these childish things.

Does it matter if grown people keep on believing in things that a seven year old child, given freedom of thought and action, would dump into the wastebasket along with the tooth fairy? Yes, of course it does, because if you can get an adult to keep on believing in untrue things in this area you can get them to believe untrue things in any area. Enter creationists, and tea-baggers, and climate change deniers, and birthers, and truthers, and WMD in Iraq, and death panels, and the global war on terrorism, and Obama is a socialist, and all the rest of this childish rubbish that is constantly being trotted out these days by children in adult bodies.

Going to take a long time to turn around this barrage of unreality that is corrupting political systems designed in and for more enlightened times. A good place to start would be to let children dump religion when they dump all the other fairy stories from their mental furniture.

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09:03 PM on 03/03/2010
So I guess Martin Luther King, who lead the civil rights movement in this country, was a childish idiot to you?
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12:05 PM on 03/05/2010
No one said he was an "idiot" ... that's your own extrapolation.

And, by your own method of extrapolation ... when Xtians condemned Bill Clinton or Tiger Woods or anyone else for their infidelity ... they were saying that King was a COMPLETLY immoral man ... because he was unfaithful to his wife too.
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10:57 AM on 03/03/2010
My son was exposed to almost everything including Eastern Orthodox, Catholic, Baptist, Native American religion, etc. He chose to be an atheist and taught me about it. When I broke the bonds of my childish christianity it was like being liberated. All the myths and fairy tales became just that. I was no longer in bondage to any religion or orthodoxy, free to practice what I want, believe what I want and think what I want. I encourage others to think outside the envelope. It's freedom.
09:54 AM on 03/03/2010
So you're equating people who don't agree with you with children who believe in the tooth fairy? How childish.
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JohnFromCensornati
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12:48 PM on 03/05/2010
"So you're equating people who "don't agree with you" with children who believe in the tooth fairy?"

Actually, he's equating people "who believe in gods" with children who believe in the tooth fairy, and BTW, they don't agree with each other. How many gods are there?
02:26 PM on 03/05/2010
"Enter creationists, and tea-baggers, and climate change deniers, and birthers, and truthers, and WMD in Iraq, and death panels, and the global war on terrorism, and Obama is a socialist"

He's equating people who believe these things with children who believe in the tooth fairy. Lumping people who believe things that may actually be true with children that believe in obviously fantastic things is just a dishonest, and childish, way of attacking the views of others.
08:48 AM on 03/03/2010
God is an imaginary friend for adults.
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06:13 AM on 03/03/2010
"Yes, of course it does, because if you can get an adult to keep on believing in untrue things in this area you can get them to believe untrue things in any area."

Most obnoxious of all from my perspective is the notion that gay people are "sinners" who choose to be gay. I'm sick to death of hearing that BS. It leads people to blog crazy stuff like this that I read on HP just yesterday:

"Being a well-adjusted homosexual myself (i.e., I'm not out to change my orientation), I know that it would be sinful to act on my inclinations, so I am celibate. It's actually not difficult. Obedience and growing in holiness is far more important than dating and so forth."

This is the twisted self-hate that results from religion, and worst of all, the straight religionists hate gay people even more. Meanwhile, they spew a lot of double-talk about love.