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Obama "Can No More Disown (McChrystal) Than I Can My White Grandmother"

Posted: 06/22/10 01:41 PM ET

The more I learn about the insubordination America's top commander in Afghanistan displayed in full view of a Rolling Stone writer, the more I think any American president would fire him. But the more I think about Gen. Stanley McChrystal's motives and President Obama's approach to power and people, the more I think Obama will spare him and own him.

Trashing the president, the vice president, the National Security Advisor, and others may not have been premeditated. But, if the executive editor of Rolling Stone is to be believed, the insubordination was at least post-meditated. As you can see in this clip, McChrystal reportedly did not dispute his quotes or push back against the story during the magazine's fact-checking process.

So what's McChrystal doing?

Joe Scarborough, a former Republican congressman, said on his MSNBC show this morning that "(McChrystal) thinks Afghanistan's going to fail and he's going to go out with guns blazing."

Whether true or not, Scarborough's assessment jumped out at me because it matches what my own gut tells me about this. McChrystal's actions are at the very least consistent with a man who wants to be able to get out before his own Afghanistan architecture can collapse on top of him. They are consistent with a man who wants to be able to say that America's Afghanistan policy would have worked if the president had just let him stay, if the president had accepted his apology, if the president hadn't been so thin-skinned as to put his own ego above the safety of troops and the success of the mission. They are consistent with a man who imagines he can go into politics.

Obama will know all this, will anticipate all the consequences of firing McChystal, of giving McChrystal exactly what McChrystal may be aiming for. The title of this post borrows from Obama's so-called "race speech" in Philadelphia during the 2008 campaign:

And this helps explain, perhaps, my relationship with Reverend Wright. As imperfect as he may be, he has been like family to me. He strengthened my faith, officiated my wedding, and baptized my children. Not once in my conversations with him have I heard him talk about any ethnic group in derogatory terms, or treat whites with whom he interacted with anything but courtesy and respect. He contains within him the contradictions - the good and the bad - of the community that he has served diligently for so many years.

I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother - a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.

These people are a part of me. And they are a part of America, this country that I love.

If given another chance, McChrystal may prove to be as persistently incautious as Rev. Wright. If so, Obama will surgically remove him in the same way he did Wright. But McChrystal might do the right thing, too. He might stay. He might realize that further indiscretion and insubordination would make his motives and his reputation-saving retreat transparent and repulsive to the American people.

Obama made Hillary Clinton his secretary of state, putting all that she said during the campaign behind him, her, and the country. Obama can do the same thing with McChrystal. If he does, he should emerge with a tighter grip on McChrystal than he would enjoy over any commander who might be brought in to take over in Afghanistan.

As I wrote last night, "firing a contrite McChrystal over this would be very unlike Obama. People owe him when he sees past boneheadedness."

That's equally true if the "contrite McChrystal" is only playing at contrition and apology. As I write this, McChrystal has been pulled out of Afghanistan to appear at the White House.

For more on this mess, see Andrew Sullivan and Thomas Ricks and Andrew Exum. I've only just now spotted the Sullivan and skimmed it before posting and getting on with my day. I notice that at the end Sullivan writes, "we will never win unless we devote far more resources and many more decades to neo-imperial control than America can afford and than the American and British publics will tolerate. Maybe deploying McChrystal to do his best - and still fail - will be the only way of proving this. Which is why this incident is actually, to my mind, a good thing."


Huffington Post blogger David Quigg lives in Seattle. This piece originally appeared on his personal blog, too many Daves.

 
 
 
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05:07 PM on 06/23/2010
"If given another chance, McChrystal may prove to be as persistently incautious as Rev. Wright. If so, Obama will surgically remove him in the same way he did Wright."

The problem with this statement is that this WAS the "another chance". Have you already forgotten that McChrystal spoke out of line to the media last autumn as well? And Obama gave him the treatment you suggest he give now, no doubt expecting that it would give the result you predict now -- but unfortunately McChrystal DID "prove to be as persistently incautious as Rev. Wright". And therefore he now finds himself "surgically removed".
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TexasDem0
USMC Vietnam combat vet
12:28 PM on 06/23/2010
Have you noticed that all the people calling for Gen. McChrystal to keep his command are not going to bear the consequences of his failed policy? A true show of confidence would be to enlist in the Army or Marine Corps and request service in Afghanistan.
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jbarelli
I don't belong to an organized political party.
10:59 AM on 06/23/2010
What nobody seems to believe is that the President is going to do exactly what he says he's going to do. Listen to General McChrystal, consider what is best for the mission and the military, and then decide.

General McChrystal certainly stepped in it. Allowing journalists to watch the day-to-day interaction between him and the members of his team without first getting a clear understanding of what was "on the record" was foolish at best. Many of the comments were the sort of griping about the boss that happens in any organization, especially when people are frustrated.

What should President Obama do? Heck, I don't know. He's got all the information (far more than any of us), and I respect his judgment. Do I ever think that he's made a mistake? Oh, yeah. But in the end, whatever he decides to do, it's his call. I voted for him, and will look at that decision again in 2012, once I've seen what he's accomplished with the office overall.

And by that time, we'll know how this decision worked out.
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DeloresT
Writer/retired teacher
10:26 AM on 06/23/2010
Sounds like this author is a fan of the U.S. continuuing this unwinnable war....or perhaps he's a relative of McChrystal's.
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Jebus Chris
The 2 party system is a joke that's not funny.
10:00 AM on 06/23/2010
This is an article that should have gone without publishing. The logic (if you can call it that) behind the title and article is totally off base. Cndidate Obama was comparing Rev Wright to his white grandmother because of the bond, length and nature of the relationships. It's quite obvious that Obama and McChrystal don't share a long, close bond and definitely not a student/teacher guardian/child relationship that he was pinpointing by using his grandmother as a point of reference. You either totally misunderstood Obama's speech from 2008 or know something about Gen. McChrystal and Obama's past that the rest of the world doesn't. This article belongs in the "Comedy" section, for a minute I thought that's where I was and not "Politics".
Grunty1
Micro-bio this
10:49 AM on 06/23/2010
Well said.
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espowill
07:32 AM on 06/23/2010
Fire him, bring home the troops and put them on the Mexican border. Solve 3 problems at once.
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06:44 AM on 06/23/2010
This General no doubt knew what he was doing. Instead of being honorable, an officer and a gentleman this man broke the cardinal rule regarding the chain of command and set a precedent for insubordination up and down the chain of command. He blew it. When you blow it you get FIRED you do not get to resign. West Point has produced other officers who most likely are ready to take command and get the job done. Obama needs to man up and take control of the situation and show everyone under his command that he is ready to take on whoever undermines his authority.
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DeloresT
Writer/retired teacher
10:27 AM on 06/23/2010
Fanned! I agree wholeheartedly.
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progressivestance84
The Right is Wrong.
05:40 AM on 06/23/2010
This is about the military, not politics. Fire him, or accept his resignation!!!
05:26 AM on 06/23/2010
Sorry, Mr. Quigg, but your article doesn't take into account the Uniform Code of Military Justice
which has an entirely different take on the matter. If our President "fails" to live up to the
spirit and intent of that Code, he's in for a lot more than criticism and ridicule. He will have
caved in to performing as an amateur, even after a year and one-half on the job. He will
definitely lose the confidence of the entire Pentagon. No, this can't be handled like a case
of a civilian CEO chastising someone in middle management. Obama must be bold, and
that means accepting a resignation or firing the dude.
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MyFatCat
Slacktivist no longer
02:48 AM on 06/23/2010
I applaud the political calculus, if that's what the President is doing, but frankly the nation may not want to pay for it.
01:38 AM on 06/23/2010
This would be carrying the Team of Rivals to the ridiculous, although it might provide wonderful opportunity to drag out Afghanistan for another eon while returning McChrystal and then letting him stretch the leash while pursuing whatever it is we are supposedly doing, then replacing him and formulating yet another policy and letting that play out for awhile, ad infinitum. And so maybe that is just what will happen. A great show of "understanding". I believe the President will suffer in opinion and prestige, however, by retaining the man.
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cliffstep
01:01 AM on 06/23/2010
It's an interesting thought , but a president can't tolerate this kind of insubordination from the military. Not only should he removed , but it needs be publicly done.
Also , I have absolutely no respect for Sullivan , as evident in his quote - from his safe retreat - that it would be "a good thing" to send more good men into action that has no chance of conclusion , only more dead and wounded. Just to prove a point.
The next commander has to be General Mayflower...load the trucks and move.Home.
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12:54 AM on 06/23/2010
McC does his job by having the personality he has. No way he can about-face and change.

He must be fired.

Hilary has some different ideals, and not an especially entrenched rebellious personality, so she could change to suit the job.

Not so, McC.
10:21 PM on 06/22/2010
You sir are not exactly bright. Obama has been placed in a corner by the insubordination of the general. He has maligned Obama, the VP, the Ambassador, The State Department and the allied troop leadership and their men. The right has been crying and whining since he beat the crap out of McCain that he is not strong enough for the job. They have made the case that he is week. If he does anything but fire the general he will appear weak to the public, to our troops and our allies. This is not even McCrhystal's first transgression. Handling the cover up of Tillman's death, then making comments about the VP's estimates, then doing news releases about the need for a troop increase to pressure Obama into the "right" decision. Anything short of firing will make him look as tough he is afraid of the General. That will also make it harder to control him in the future.
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anotherwomanfromva
Trickle down didn't work; It's time for trickle up
10:36 PM on 06/22/2010
I agree. I think Obama has decided to keep his friends close and his enemies closer but McChrystal has gone too far. President needs to and should fire him tomorrow. Obama needs to reject his resignation and fire him. Enough is enough.
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Sharon Hunt
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12:16 AM on 06/23/2010
while I like to hear people''s opinions even if they differ than mine, this article simply did not need to be written. Your reasoning makes no sense. This man has GOT to go. Everyone knows it now. On top of insubordination, Obama has to show that he is in charge....whether the right likes it or not.
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06:49 AM on 06/23/2010
It makes perfect sense. In America today not many at the very top of whatever profession are held accountable and fired. Its becoming the culture of America to turn away from hard, ugly decisions and to try and hide it using a political angle. Fact is all of us are replaceable.
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Bluesue
07:57 PM on 06/22/2010
Disagree. I think keeping McChrystal will weaken Obama not just asCommander in Chief but in all areas, including internationally.

I think failure to get rid of McChrystal will invite more insubordination - not necessarily from McChrystal but from others. After all, why not since there aren't any consequences. In the military could that insurbordination take the form of refusing to follow an order or worse?

Some argue that McChrystal is so important to the Afghan strategy that he can't be fired. Good grief, we change a President every 4 or 8 years - we can't change a general?

It will also weaken him in other areas
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TerryDArc
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08:11 PM on 06/22/2010
#83! McChrystal unless he is even more delusional than he appears presently has already decided to resign. Obama should strike first and fire the a55hole.